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Anonymous wrote:17 pages on this and still going strong. Wow.

The fact that this one thing gets people so up in arms makes me want to salute OP’s daughter all the more. It is so trivial.

Me, too, actually. I'm the mom of a teen daughter who doesn't shave and it really icks me out. I've been trying to keep that my issue and not hers...because it is. This thread really has helped.

+1

Both of my teen girls do not shave their legs andinitially thoughts of my mom and peers in the middle school locker room triggered me. And then I was like, wow - good for them. And my 15yr old is blonde but all summer she was so tan and she said "wow, you can see me hair so much more" and her 16yr old boyfriend was like "who cares" This generation does not care and the only ones that do have pearl clutching mommies that also has pearl clutching mommies. So it ends with me and my girls and I am proud.

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Anonymous wrote:17 pages on this and still going strong. Wow.

The lengths some women and men will go to to shame young women is quite remarkable!

NO ONE IS SHAMING HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But if you think your hairy legs are not talked about you are clueless. Go women's rights!!! Woo hooo!!!!! You do you, boo. More power to you. Wear a tank top and show everyone your hairy pits too while you're at it.

"We chartered a sailboat in the Caribbean and one of the female workers did not shave her legs. Honestly it was nasty."

You don't think that is shaming? What is wrong with you? Even your post is shaming. Are you seriously blind or just a fucking idiot?

The caribbean post is not me. But if you keep insisting that I'm shaming someone for stating that hairy legs might get a young woman starting out attention she doesn't want then yeah I'm going to make fun of you for being clueless.

Please point out where someone specified that YOU are shaming young women? The post you are replying to just discusses that this thread is continuing and a large cause of that is shaming women who don't shave.

There is no way you work at a "top 5 law firm" if you can't even read basic posts on an online forum.

OK, you are so right.

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Anonymous wrote:17 pages on this and still going strong. Wow.

The lengths some women and men will go to to shame young women is quite remarkable!

NO ONE IS SHAMING HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But if you think your hairy legs are not talked about you are clueless. Go women's rights!!! Woo hooo!!!!! You do you, boo. More power to you. Wear a tank top and show everyone your hairy pits too while you're at it.

"We chartered a sailboat in the Caribbean and one of the female workers did not shave her legs. Honestly it was nasty."

You don't think that is shaming? What is wrong with you? Even your post is shaming. Are you seriously blind or just a fucking idiot?

The caribbean post is not me. But if you keep insisting that I'm shaming someone for stating that hairy legs might get a young woman starting out attention she doesn't want then yeah I'm going to make fun of you for being clueless.

Please point out where someone specified that YOU are shaming young women? The post you are replying to just discusses that this thread is continuing and a large cause of that is shaming women who don't shave.

There is no way you work at a "top 5 law firm" if you can't even read basic posts on an online forum.

Sure there is....they just have their legal aid do all the reading and work for them. That's why they're so successful and superior!

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Anonymous wrote:17 pages on this and still going strong. Wow.

The lengths some women and men will go to to shame young women is quite remarkable!

NO ONE IS SHAMING HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But if you think your hairy legs are not talked about you are clueless. Go women's rights!!! Woo hooo!!!!! You do you, boo. More power to you. Wear a tank top and show everyone your hairy pits too while you're at it.

Uh, many many posts have been about shaming women who don't shave. Some people just hate women who do their own thing.

THIS THIS THIS

Like who cares who shaves and who doesn't. Why are conforming to sexist behaviors created by men. I thought we were past that. It is a learned behavior from your own upbringing to think not shaving natural body hair on your legs is "gross"

It hasn't even been around for a century and more woman don't shave in this world than do. Not to mention anyone with diabetes should never shave or wax. And then for anyone, just basic irritation, infections, rashes, ingrown hairs, and the "gross" stubble that comes back in one day. I just don't get why the US conforms to strange cosmetic looks.

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Anonymous wrote:17 pages on this and still going strong. Wow.

The fact that this one thing gets people so up in arms makes me want to salute OP’s daughter all the more. It is so trivial.

Me, too, actually. I'm the mom of a teen daughter who doesn't shave and it really icks me out. I've been trying to keep that my issue and not hers...because it is. This thread really has helped.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, tell her to wear pants. No one wants to see her hairy legs. Gross.

Agree, nasty.

We chartered a sailboat in the Caribbean and one of the female workers did not shave her legs. Honestly it was nasty.
The Caribbean is more of a crunchy setting for a job. I can't imagine an American or European woman wearing
a skirt on the job and not shaving or waxing her legs in a professional office setting.

Waxing in a professional office setting - now that is nasty.

Anonymous wrote:OP, tell her to wear pants. No one wants to see her hairy legs. Gross.

Then don't look at them.

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Anonymous wrote:Without having read all the back and forth in this thread, it boils down to this: SHOULD it matter that she doesn’t shave her legs? No, it shouldn’t. WILL it matter that she doesn’t shave her legs? Yes, it will. The people in her office will be Millennials, Gen Xers, and Boomers. It’s an unfortunate reality that in a traditional, professional office setting she will stand out in a negative way. Anyone arguing against this fact doesn’t know what they are talking about and certainly hasn’t set foot in a traditional office. It may not be ideal, but it is the reality. Make sure she knows this and then she can make her own choice.

How will it matter? Factually, what will happen? They will see her legs and fire her? They will see her legs and reprimand her? They will see her legs and criticize her body and ask her to shave? No, none of these. That would probably be illegal. So what will actually happen? They will occasionally see some leg hair and then move on with their day? Is that really what all this hand wringing is about?

You’re probably right, but a partner at my law firm once told a group of us to stop wearing open toed shoes because it made us look like “party girls” and then commented on our shoe choices again every time she saw us thereafter. So yes, people might say something.

Wasn't that a threat not too long ago? The overwhelming consensus was that we do NOT wear open-toe shoes in the office, right? No long nails either!!! because that's beyond trashy. But hairy legs are women's rights and everyone is all of a sudden totally OK with it?????

I'm 57 years old, have worked in a variety of settings, and I have never ever been told no long nails. I have only been told no open toed shoes when it was a matter of safety. If I can survive looking at men's overgrown bushy beards which I do not find attractive, why can't people survive seeing hair on a woman's leg once in a while. That's much easier to avoid seeing than a person's face. I also find an over-abundance of tattoos gross; but I wouldn't tell anyone to cover them up or have them removed. If OP's daughter had 5 ear piercings would y'all be telling her to cover her ears with her hair or only wear one pair of matching earrings at at time? (probably, given some of the comments)

Anonymous wrote:Without having read all the back and forth in this thread, it boils down to this: SHOULD it matter that she doesn’t shave her legs? No, it shouldn’t. WILL it matter that she doesn’t shave her legs? Yes, it will. The people in her office will be Millennials, Gen Xers, and Boomers. It’s an unfortunate reality that in a traditional, professional office setting she will stand out in a negative way. Anyone arguing against this fact doesn’t know what they are talking about and certainly hasn’t set foot in a traditional office. It may not be ideal, but it is the reality. Make sure she knows this and then she can make her own choice.

I guess she'll find out herself. I hope OP's daughter is able to provide us an update to let us know how it actually is in that particular office.

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Anonymous wrote:17 pages on this and still going strong. Wow.

The lengths some women and men will go to to shame young women is quite remarkable!

NO ONE IS SHAMING HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But if you think your hairy legs are not talked about you are clueless. Go women's rights!!! Woo hooo!!!!! You do you, boo. More power to you. Wear a tank top and show everyone your hairy pits too while you're at it.

Uh, many many posts have been about shaming women who don't shave. Some people just hate women who do their own thing.

Anonymous wrote:You can be honest and tell her that it is outside the norms and that some people will judge (but not say anything, because they could almost certainly be fired for that) but then leave it at that. The rest is up to her. If she knows the norms and chooses not to follow them, she’s an independent thinker. Good for her.

And it’s not like it’ll affect her career path or promotion potential or anything. She’s in high school. Most normal people, if they notice at all, will shrug and think “huh, kids today.”

In this very long thread, I think this early poster said it best. Its worth it to make sure that she is aware that some people probably will not appreciate a woman with exposed hairy legs in the office, but that it SHOULD not matter. She can do what she wants, and yet she's not flying blind into the situation.

When people dress / present themselves outside of traditional gender norms, I view them as helping to challenge pointless norms and validate others whose self-presentation falls outside those lines.

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Anonymous wrote:17 pages on this and still going strong. Wow.

The lengths some women and men will go to to shame young women is quite remarkable!

NO ONE IS SHAMING HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But if you think your hairy legs are not talked about you are clueless. Go women's rights!!! Woo hooo!!!!! You do you, boo. More power to you. Wear a tank top and show everyone your hairy pits too while you're at it.

"We chartered a sailboat in the Caribbean and one of the female workers did not shave her legs. Honestly it was nasty."

You don't think that is shaming? What is wrong with you? Even your post is shaming. Are you seriously blind or just a fucking idiot?

The caribbean post is not me. But if you keep insisting that I'm shaming someone for stating that hairy legs might get a young woman starting out attention she doesn't want then yeah I'm going to make fun of you for being clueless.

Please point out where someone specified that YOU are shaming young women? The post you are replying to just discusses that this thread is continuing and a large cause of that is shaming women who don't shave.

There is no way you work at a "top 5 law firm" if you can't even read basic posts on an online forum.

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Anonymous wrote:17 pages on this and still going strong. Wow.

The lengths some women and men will go to to shame young women is quite remarkable!

NO ONE IS SHAMING HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But if you think your hairy legs are not talked about you are clueless. Go women's rights!!! Woo hooo!!!!! You do you, boo. More power to you. Wear a tank top and show everyone your hairy pits too while you're at it.

Bless your heart.

Perhaps in a few years you'll realize the world has moved on and left you behind. It may be too late to consign those Ann Taylor suits....

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Anonymous wrote:17 pages on this and still going strong. Wow.

The lengths some women and men will go to to shame young women is quite remarkable!

NO ONE IS SHAMING HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But if you think your hairy legs are not talked about you are clueless. Go women's rights!!! Woo hooo!!!!! You do you, boo. More power to you. Wear a tank top and show everyone your hairy pits too while you're at it.

"We chartered a sailboat in the Caribbean and one of the female workers did not shave her legs. Honestly it was nasty."

You don't think that is shaming? What is wrong with you? Even your post is shaming. Are you seriously blind or just a fucking idiot?

The caribbean post is not me. But if you keep insisting that I'm shaming someone for stating that hairy legs might get a young woman starting out attention she doesn't want then yeah I'm going to make fun of you for being clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:17 pages on this and still going strong. Wow.

The lengths some women and men will go to to shame young women is quite remarkable!

NO ONE IS SHAMING HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But if you think your hairy legs are not talked about you are clueless. Go women's rights!!! Woo hooo!!!!! You do you, boo. More power to you. Wear a tank top and show everyone your hairy pits too while you're at it.

"We chartered a sailboat in the Caribbean and one of the female workers did not shave her legs. Honestly it was nasty."

You don't think that is shaming? What is wrong with you? Even your post is shaming. Are you seriously blind or just a fucking idiot?