Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:20     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

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Anonymous wrote:If the staffer didn’t lie, then she has nothing to worry about.

I'd be scared MAGA crazies would come after me. They have a sh*t ton of guns.



Why would they come after you if you’re being truthful and video backs up your story?


Because MAGA doesn't care about the truth

+1 They would see it as an attack on Trump. Crazy people with too many guns.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:19     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the staffer didn’t lie, then she has nothing to worry about.

I'd be scared MAGA crazies would come after me. They have a sh*t ton of guns.



Why would they come after you if you’re being truthful and video backs up your story?

Ask any number of poll workers, government workers, election officials, and politicians who have been targeted by Trump crazies.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:19     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

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Anonymous wrote:I'm less and less impressed with the family. It's clear that they intended this to be a political statement as well,


I don't think it is for us to say how this family deals with the loss of their loved one. If it helps them to be involved in the trump campaign, they just can't do that in Arlington national cemetery for good reasons.


+1. I don’t blame the family. It should be assumed that families have strong feelings that translate to political sentiment. It was up to Trump to lead, by honoring both the spirit and the sentiment of the law.

If he’d said, “I would love you to share your message on my behalf; we can work together on that after we leave this sacred place,” there would be no issue. He made a different choice.

Sure, but it wasn't only their son's grave in the photo op. That's part of the problem. The families of the other fallen soldiers adjacent to it had no say.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:19     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the staffer didn’t lie, then she has nothing to worry about.

I'd be scared MAGA crazies would come after me. They have a sh*t ton of guns.



Why would they come after you if you’re being truthful and video backs up your story?


Because MAGA doesn't care about the truth
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:19     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm less and less impressed with the family. It's clear that they intended this to be a political statement as well,


I don't think it is for us to say how this family deals with the loss of their loved one. If it helps them to be involved in the trump campaign, they just can't do that in Arlington national cemetery for good reasons.


Nor can they disrespect the rest of the military to facilitate Trump's illegal commercial.


Is this a well known law or were they bombarded when they were in the middle of something. It doesn’t make it right but her action could have been startling. Trump’s usually surrounded by secret service.


Dude, where have you been for the last two days? Every news story had "the officials told the camping well in advance and during the event that they can't enter the area."
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:15     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm less and less impressed with the family. It's clear that they intended this to be a political statement as well,


I don't think it is for us to say how this family deals with the loss of their loved one. If it helps them to be involved in the trump campaign, they just can't do that in Arlington national cemetery for good reasons.


+1. I don’t blame the family. It should be assumed that families have strong feelings that translate to political sentiment. It was up to Trump to lead, by honoring both the spirit and the sentiment of the law.

If he’d said, “I would love you to share your message on my behalf; we can work together on that after we leave this sacred place,” there would be no issue. He made a different choice.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:15     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

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Anonymous wrote:From the family:

“We invited him. He didn’t come to us,” said Darin Hoover, father of Staff Sgt. Darin “Taylor” Hoover. “He has shown nothing but sincerity to all of us and for what happened to our children, and for anybody else to try to take that away from the ceremony — both at the wreath-laying and at the graveside — is unconscionable.”



And people keep deleting this. Because that's the scum they are.


As has been mentioned many times, there wasn't a problem with the family inviting him to attend. There wasn't a problem with him attending or being there. There wasn't a problem with them taking photographs, as they said, for they to have a memory of the honor of having President Trump there.

The problem was that it was illegal for President Trump and his campaign team to use those photographs and video for his campaign. President Trump and his campaign team are the only ones who violated the law, after the event, by taking photos and videos, intended to be a memorial for the families, and publicly releasing them and using them for his political campaign.

He was respectful of the families that invited him. But he was very disrespectful of all of the other families whose loved ones are interred in section 60 and who do not want their loved ones' graves included in political messaging and to have their privacy invaded. As has been mentioned, at least one family member of a service member in an adjacent grave was shocked and upset when her brother's grave was included in Trump's political messaging. That is what the rule is designed to protect. Those families deserve their privacy in their grief.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:15     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm less and less impressed with the family. It's clear that they intended this to be a political statement as well,


I don't think it is for us to say how this family deals with the loss of their loved one. If it helps them to be involved in the trump campaign, they just can't do that in Arlington national cemetery for good reasons.


Nor can they disrespect the rest of the military to facilitate Trump's illegal commercial.


Is this a well known law or were they bombarded when they were in the middle of something. It doesn’t make it right but her action could have been startling. Trump’s usually surrounded by secret service.

It's a well-known law. AND It was explained to them when they got there, AND they called Mike Johnson to make it go away, AND they pushed an ANC employee aside when she tried to enforce the law. There are no facts that make this look any better for Trump.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:13     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm less and less impressed with the family. It's clear that they intended this to be a political statement as well,


I don't think it is for us to say how this family deals with the loss of their loved one. If it helps them to be involved in the trump campaign, they just can't do that in Arlington national cemetery for good reasons.


Nor can they disrespect the rest of the military to facilitate Trump's illegal commercial.


Is this a well known law or were they bombarded when they were in the middle of something. It doesn’t make it right but her action could have been startling. Trump’s usually surrounded by secret service.


Yes. It’s a very well known law.

But who does a campaign ad for TikTok in a cemetery? Only a psychopathic weirdo.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:11     Subject: Re:Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

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No, the folks at Arlington Cemetery were doing what they could to uphold the law, and Trump and the Speaker helped override that for personal gain.



And let me guess. Johnson has not served either?
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:10     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm less and less impressed with the family. It's clear that they intended this to be a political statement as well,


I don't think it is for us to say how this family deals with the loss of their loved one. If it helps them to be involved in the trump campaign, they just can't do that in Arlington national cemetery for good reasons.


Nor can they disrespect the rest of the military to facilitate Trump's illegal commercial.


Is this a well known law or were they bombarded when they were in the middle of something. It doesn’t make it right but her action could have been startling. Trump’s usually surrounded by secret service.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:09     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Meant an ad that i have not seen
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:09     Subject: Re:Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

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No, the folks at Arlington Cemetery were doing what they could to uphold the law, and Trump and the Speaker helped override that for personal gain.

Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:08     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm less and less impressed with the family. It's clear that they intended this to be a political statement as well,


I don't think it is for us to say how this family deals with the loss of their loved one. If it helps them to be involved in the trump campaign, they just can't do that in Arlington national cemetery for good reasons.


Nor can they disrespect the rest of the military to facilitate Trump's illegal commercial.


no they can't. I am sure there are families of lost service members in the opposite political camp as well. Not sure how to best navigate expressing your loss of a military loved one in a political arena. But whatever the guidelines are, they clearly forbid activities in Arlington.

I read this family was involved in a campaign ad that u did not see. Was that ad done legally?
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Anonymous
Post 08/29/2024 16:01     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm less and less impressed with the family. It's clear that they intended this to be a political statement as well,


I don't think it is for us to say how this family deals with the loss of their loved one. If it helps them to be involved in the trump campaign, they just can't do that in Arlington national cemetery for good reasons.


Nor can they disrespect the rest of the military to facilitate Trump's illegal commercial.