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Anonymous wrote:Freshman got a 5 in AP Gov. Great for her first AP exam!

Our N.VA school district allows you to take AP GOV SENIOR year. Granted I know anyone can self study for an AP test, it is just a bit insane how different things are across the board for when certain classes are taught.

My freshman also got a 5. At their school, all 9th graders take AP Gov. iIt is crazy how different schools do things.

It just goes to show how APs are not truly college-level classes.

Why does it show that? My 9th grader took it and got a 2. Huge history buff, but clearly not ready for that level. By junior year was getting 4s and 5s.

I don't care who got what on the AP exams. I'd rather have the GPA number as I think that is more reflective of whether the material was understood. AP exams are a specific animal and the kids are taught how to take the tests, in addition to the material. So they are not as reflective of material, imo.

You don't have to agree. And that's fine.

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Anonymous wrote:my kiddo took the APUSH exam but not the class which isn't offered at her school...and got a 5! seems nuts. but she wants to major in history

that is something else - so much work for that AP my rising 12 grader took it in school in 10th and got a 5 for the same reason - prospective History major but it was a TON of work

Not sure this actually helps that much with admissions since they look more at the course load. FWIW, a kid at my son's school did this for a few AP classes and did not seem to get admissions boost.

Anonymous wrote:For all the jerks claiming that As in the class but 4s on the AP are because of grade inflation, there is also the issue that a lot of times teachers don't make it through all the material. NOT blaming the teacher--I actually prefer it when the teacher "goes deep" in the material rather than teaching to the test. And I also concede that grade inflation is rampant. But there are a lot of reasons why a kid might not get a 5 on the test that have nothing to do with grade inflation....also, in the past two years my DC had two AP teachers who were out for large parts of the spring due to illness/maternity leave.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS sucks. My kid got a 1 in apush and calc bc. Always got 4s when we had tutors. Couldn’t find a decent tutor this semester and the teachers were terrible as evidenced in her score.

My kid is also in McPS and got a 5 in bc. I do ageee that the teachers are uneven but a 1 seems like a lot to blame on the teacher.

Anonymous wrote:For all the jerks claiming that As in the class but 4s on the AP are because of grade inflation, there is also the issue that a lot of times teachers don't make it through all the material. NOT blaming the teacher--I actually prefer it when the teacher "goes deep" in the material rather than teaching to the test. And I also concede that grade inflation is rampant. But there are a lot of reasons why a kid might not get a 5 on the test that have nothing to do with grade inflation....also, in the past two years my DC had two AP teachers who were out for large parts of the spring due to illness/maternity leave.

Anonymous wrote:MCPS sucks. My kid got a 1 in apush and calc bc. Always got 4s when we had tutors. Couldn’t find a decent tutor this semester and the teachers were terrible as evidenced in her score.

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Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Did they do the Physics C exams back to back? That's stamina!

DC self studied for Physics C elect, biology and music theory. DC missed like 2 weeks of school cramming. LCPS doesn’t offer physics elect for some reason.

The exams for Physics C Mech and E&M were on the same day (noon to 3) and (3-6). So your DC must have taken the two in a six hour sitting!

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Anonymous wrote:my kiddo took the APUSH exam but not the class which isn't offered at her school...and got a 5! seems nuts. but she wants to major in history

that is something else - so much work for that AP my rising 12 grader took it in school in 10th and got a 5 for the same reason - prospective History major but it was a TON of work

Anonymous wrote:my kiddo took the APUSH exam but not the class which isn't offered at her school...and got a 5! seems nuts. but she wants to major in history

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Anonymous wrote:Freshman got a 5 in AP Gov. Great for her first AP exam!

Our N.VA school district allows you to take AP GOV SENIOR year. Granted I know anyone can self study for an AP test, it is just a bit insane how different things are across the board for when certain classes are taught.

My freshman also got a 5. At their school, all 9th graders take AP Gov. iIt is crazy how different schools do things.

It just goes to show how APs are not truly college-level classes.

Why does it show that? My 9th grader took it and got a 2. Huge history buff, but clearly not ready for that level. By junior year was getting 4s and 5s.

I don't care who got what on the AP exams. I'd rather have the GPA number as I think that is more reflective of whether the material was understood. AP exams are a specific animal and the kids are taught how to take the tests, in addition to the material. So they are not as reflective of material, imo.

You don't have to agree. And that's fine.

Bad test taker syndrome …

No. Just an average AP exam taker. Excellent test taker in general.

I wonder how that poster thinks the high GPA people got high GPAs.

FFS, have you spent any time around a high school or high school students in the past 30 years? Apple polishing on steroids has taken over - begging and pleading by students for extra credit assignments, rampant entitlement mindset of the students who advocate for themselves the most ferociously, established makeover assignments, helicopter parent intervention and intimidation, pressure on schools to demonstrate success in meeting educational benchmarks, and on and on and on.

If you're seriously prepared to argue that grade inflation HAS NOT rendered much of what we get from a transcript these days as mostly unreliable, I'm definitely prepared to take you to the woodshed on this topic.

As I've said for the past 30 years, I'll take Applicant A (3.5 unweighted with a 1600 and an unbroken string of 5 scores on 10+ AP tests) ALL DAY LONG over Applicant B (4.0 unweighted with a 1450 and a mix of 3s, 4s, and 5s on 6 - 8 AP tests). For the same reason, I'll always take an applicant with an 88 average in an AP class and a 5 on the AP test over another an applicant with a 98 in the class but a 3 on the AP test or an applicant with a 94 in the class but a 4 on the AP test. All day. Every day.

Grades are directional at this point, nothing more.

Even if the two applicants go to the same school and had the same teacher??

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Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Did they do the Physics C exams back to back? That's stamina!

DC self studied for Physics C elect, biology and music theory. DC missed like 2 weeks of school cramming. LCPS doesn’t offer physics elect for some reason.

The exams for Physics C Mech and E&M were on the same day (noon to 3) and (3-6). So your DC must have taken the two in a six hour sitting!

I think it was only 2 hours each. DC said he had to rush to finish. DC also said they are changing next year to make each one longer.

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Anonymous wrote:Mine has so far gotten all 3's on all AP tests taken, even in the subjects for intended study. Not really a big deal. DC will get some credits for some of the classes, even if just for electives. And would not "test out" of the major classes anyway as the intended grad school paths do not accept AP classes (e.g., you get a 5 on AP bio, you'd still have to take bio in college as the grad schools in this field do not accept your AP score as a substitute).

I wish the scores were higher to score some elective credits. But so far, with AP and DE, DC should have credits for 2 AP classes and 2 DE classes. So we are good with this (we already know where DC is going due to athletic commitment).

Grad school requires Bio 101, but won't accept Bio 102, 201, 301 as substitutea?!

Yeah I’m not sure if this is true. You are telling me a pre med college Bio major with a 5 on the AP Bio exam has to retake it? I’ve literally never heard this and know a ton of smart pre med kids.

It is absolutely true. The targeted path requires intro bio, chem, Ochem, stats, and a couple others. There are 1 or 2 schools that will allow some AP subs for those classes but 99% of them do not. You will have to retake those classes (or take for first time) within 5 years of applying to the grad school. DC will only get elective credits for the ap exams that are those required courses.

Not sure why you think I'd lie about that. We've researched it extensively.

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Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Did they do the Physics C exams back to back? That's stamina!

DC self studied for Physics C elect, biology and music theory. DC missed like 2 weeks of school cramming. LCPS doesn’t offer physics elect for some reason.

The exams for Physics C Mech and E&M were on the same day (noon to 3) and (3-6). So your DC must have taken the two in a six hour sitting!