Anonymous
Anonymous
07/04/2024 14:54
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
Anonymous wrote:What does being a mistress have to do with beating Donald Trump? Well, a married man who slept with a porn star isn’t as scandalous to people like a female adulterer. America is full of misogyny so Kamala doesn’t stand a chance if she becomes the candidate. That’s why the DNC wants Newsom or Whitmer or Michelle Obama. Kamala can’t win
You can’t claim misogyny is the problem and then put up Michelle or Whitmer!
Anonymous
07/04/2024 14:53
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
What does being a mistress have to do with beating Donald Trump? Well, a married man who slept with a porn star isn’t as scandalous to people like a female adulterer. America is full of misogyny so Kamala doesn’t stand a chance if she becomes the candidate. That’s why the DNC wants Newsom or Whitmer or Michelle Obama. Kamala can’t win
Anonymous
07/04/2024 14:51
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Agree - and if the Dems don't push her out and start fresh with somebody that can WIN no matter their color (including a white man, if that's what it takes), then the party is simply too stupid to vote for.
Biden/Harris campaign money can only be used by Biden or Harris. Anyone else would be stating from scratch. Harris is really the only alternative to Biden.
Agreed.
I don’t really understand the objections to Harris. She would be better than Trump, and is more alive and mentally competent than Biden. Plus, she would get Biden’s war chest.
I actually think a lot of the objections to Harris are just the virulent misogyny that’s a significant part of the Democratic Party these days. It’s all the same.
(FWIW I am a centrist Democrat who will never vote for Trump.)
Misogyny or no misogyny, a campaign is about WINNING and she is grating. Biden was the pick in 2020 because he was what we needed to WIN - a white guy who was capable to telling Trump to F-off. To WIN it has to be a DUDE that can deliver Pennsylania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
With a large war chest behind her that is well-managed, I am convinced she could win. Trump is such a weak candidate.
I don't think so. There's a reason she's been relatively hidden over the past three years. That's why her poll numbers now are relatively good. But once she's on TV 24/7 as the Democratic nominee, and more people are exposed to her word salad and the ease with which she gets flustered, that'll change. She made her name as the Attorney General of California, and you know Republicans will be all over that. Ditto her role as the border czar. She will be immediately be put in the pro-criminals, pro-open borders, California progressive box. And she has lost a lot of staff as VP, which suggests she's a terrible and insecure manager. She's also not that much better that Biden in conveying a coherent thought. Plus I don't think it's a given that blacks are going to rally around a woman that primarily identified as Indian for most of her life, which makes sense since her Jamaican father was largely absent. Very, very few people survive the hyper-glare of media attention when running for President. Including her when she ran in 2020 and dropped out before the first primary.
I think she'd be a disastrous fill-in for Biden under the circumstances. Kamala Harris is not winning Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada and all the other battleground states. Even New Jersey and New Hampshire are polling for Trump now. If Democrats want to stop the upcoming collapse, they will have to choose differently. But of course passing over a woman of color VP for a white person will absolutely destroy the base.
In the end, it was a terrible idea to anoint a feeble and elderly Biden. I do not see any possible salvation from their arrogance.
She also was a side hoe to a well liked civil rights activist and mayor Willie Brown -still married by the way for over 70 years to his first wife. That isn’t going to go over with black women at all. She was paraded around with Willie Brown in his arm and it was known she was the married mayor’s girlfriend
Anonymous
Anonymous
07/04/2024 14:00
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Agree - and if the Dems don't push her out and start fresh with somebody that can WIN no matter their color (including a white man, if that's what it takes), then the party is simply too stupid to vote for.
Biden/Harris campaign money can only be used by Biden or Harris. Anyone else would be stating from scratch. Harris is really the only alternative to Biden.
Agreed.
I don’t really understand the objections to Harris. She would be better than Trump, and is more alive and mentally competent than Biden. Plus, she would get Biden’s war chest.
I actually think a lot of the objections to Harris are just the virulent misogyny that’s a significant part of the Democratic Party these days. It’s all the same.
(FWIW I am a centrist Democrat who will never vote for Trump.)
Misogyny or no misogyny, a campaign is about WINNING and she is grating. Biden was the pick in 2020 because he was what we needed to WIN - a white guy who was capable to telling Trump to F-off. To WIN it has to be a DUDE that no can deliver Pennsylania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
Grating? Let me guess, of course you want a woman president just not THAT woman (or Hillary, or Warren, or Klobacher…) and you’ll find something about Whitmer. It never fails.
Right now I want someone that CAN WIN. I could give a shit right now if it’s a woman; that will come with time IF democracy doesn’t crumble.
Anonymous
07/04/2024 14:00
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
Anonymous wrote:I’m ready for the announcement, she’ll run a better campaign than he can right now and that’s really all that matters. Sooner the better. I didn’t pick her before but there is not another option that won’t be more of a distraction than we can afford. Just rip the bandaid off. Harris Newsom.
Can't have a president and vp from the same state. Constitutional issue. California's electoral votes would be discarded and no democrat can win without California. And that is a very losing ticket regardless.
Anonymous
07/04/2024 13:51
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
Anonymous wrote:I’m ready for the announcement, she’ll run a better campaign than he can right now and that’s really all that matters. Sooner the better. I didn’t pick her before but there is not another option that won’t be more of a distraction than we can afford. Just rip the bandaid off. Harris Newsom.
You've got it reversed. Newsom will be top of the ticket.
Anonymous
07/04/2024 13:45
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
Anonymous wrote:So confusing that the Dem governors came out so strongly for Biden.
This just complicates the whole issue.
Many Dems and Donors want him out, he still seems to have lots of support…. So at this rate he will limp into the general election and get blown out.
Either he needs to be replaced asap or every dem needs to get on board to defend him and support him. This mixed messaging will definitely cost him the election.
The Dem governors meeting was theater. Not all guvs were supportive inside the meeting. Those that came out publicly afterward endorsing him are the same guvs who are thirstily eyeing his spot for when he goes. This is just a prelude to his announcement that he is pulling out, where he will say he's doing it of his volition and not because he was forced out.
Anonymous
07/04/2024 13:36
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m ready for the announcement, she’ll run a better campaign than he can right now and that’s really all that matters. Sooner the better. I didn’t pick her before but there is not another option that won’t be more of a distraction than we can afford. Just rip the bandaid off. Harris Newsom.
No, Newsom is reviled in CA.
And outside of CA.
Anonymous
07/04/2024 13:35
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
Anonymous wrote:I’m ready for the announcement, she’ll run a better campaign than he can right now and that’s really all that matters. Sooner the better. I didn’t pick her before but there is not another option that won’t be more of a distraction than we can afford. Just rip the bandaid off. Harris Newsom.
No, Newsom is reviled in CA.
Anonymous
07/04/2024 13:35
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
Anonymous wrote:The black women I know are practical and realistic. If Harris isn't the chosen one they understand why. Nobody is more cynical because they have seen it all. Won't stop them from voting.
But what if the reason is actually her as an individual. How she has performed.
Is that an impossible scenario?
Anonymous
07/04/2024 13:30
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
I’m ready for the announcement, she’ll run a better campaign than he can right now and that’s really all that matters. Sooner the better. I didn’t pick her before but there is not another option that won’t be more of a distraction than we can afford. Just rip the bandaid off. Harris Newsom.
Anonymous
07/04/2024 13:19
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Agree - and if the Dems don't push her out and start fresh with somebody that can WIN no matter their color (including a white man, if that's what it takes), then the party is simply too stupid to vote for.
Biden/Harris campaign money can only be used by Biden or Harris. Anyone else would be stating from scratch. Harris is really the only alternative to Biden.
Agreed.
I don’t really understand the objections to Harris. She would be better than Trump, and is more alive and mentally competent than Biden. Plus, she would get Biden’s war chest.
I actually think a lot of the objections to Harris are just the virulent misogyny that’s a significant part of the Democratic Party these days. It’s all the same.
(FWIW I am a centrist Democrat who will never vote for Trump.)
White guys don't like her. Most of them vote Republican anyways.
Harris can galvanize the base, keep college education women engaged and get more of the youth vote than Biden at this point.
Pick a VP from one of the swing states and go for it!
More importantly, white girls don't like her. And POC guys and girls don't like her much either.
Wrong.
Anonymous
07/04/2024 13:08
Subject: Biden weighing whether to drop out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Agree - and if the Dems don't push her out and start fresh with somebody that can WIN no matter their color (including a white man, if that's what it takes), then the party is simply too stupid to vote for.
Biden/Harris campaign money can only be used by Biden or Harris. Anyone else would be stating from scratch. Harris is really the only alternative to Biden.
Agreed.
I don’t really understand the objections to Harris. She would be better than Trump, and is more alive and mentally competent than Biden. Plus, she would get Biden’s war chest.
I actually think a lot of the objections to Harris are just the virulent misogyny that’s a significant part of the Democratic Party these days. It’s all the same.
(FWIW I am a centrist Democrat who will never vote for Trump.)
Misogyny or no misogyny, a campaign is about WINNING and she is grating. Biden was the pick in 2020 because he was what we needed to WIN - a white guy who was capable to telling Trump to F-off. To WIN it has to be a DUDE that can deliver Pennsylania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
Ok incel.