From watching countless hours of all P&P versions, I was fascinated to find that there is a day to celebrate the style and dialogue of that era!! Capitol!!

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Anonymous wrote:The “pretty” sister in the Firth version really isn’t pretty.

She's pretty for 1813!

It’s distracting having Jane not be beautiful since everyone is always commenting on her beauty.

The actor playing Jane would indeed have been considered beautiful at that time. Here is a picture of her contemporary, Louise of Prussia, who was said to be the most beautiful woman in Europe.

I also really appreciated this about the 1995 version. They found actresses who really held to the beauty standards of the time in a way most of the productions don’t bother with doing.

I disagree.

They were a lot heavier than women of the time, and they were also much older looking than the actual characters in the book.

Seek professional help. No one looked like KK at the time. She looked skeletal and bedraggled.

You have body dysmorphia. Get help.

The average height of women from that era was 5'3" and the average weight was 112 pounds...

Anonymous wrote:And to this I read that Jane was heavily pregnant during the 1995 filming.

Which completely makes sense why she looked a bit large for the era.

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Anonymous wrote:The “pretty” sister in the Firth version really isn’t pretty.

She's pretty for 1813!

It’s distracting having Jane not be beautiful since everyone is always commenting on her beauty.

The actor playing Jane would indeed have been considered beautiful at that time. Here is a picture of her contemporary, Louise of Prussia, who was said to be the most beautiful woman in Europe.

I also really appreciated this about the 1995 version. They found actresses who really held to the beauty standards of the time in a way most of the productions don’t bother with doing.

I disagree.

They were a lot heavier than women of the time, and they were also much older looking than the actual characters in the book.

Seek professional help. No one looked like KK at the time. She looked skeletal and bedraggled.

You have body dysmorphia. Get help.

My professional background is clothing design.

Go look at clothing from that era. There are plenty museums dedicated to historical fashion, including a beautiful one in Bath.

Everyone was smaller like Keira, except maybe the very wealthy matrons.

Fat and even plump poor and middle class is a relatively new phenomenon from the past few decades.

Those 1995 actresses were a bit large for the era of the story.

Stating the obvious is not body dysphoria.

And to this I read that Jane was heavily pregnant during the 1995 filming.

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Anonymous wrote:The “pretty” sister in the Firth version really isn’t pretty.

She's pretty for 1813!

It’s distracting having Jane not be beautiful since everyone is always commenting on her beauty.

The actor playing Jane would indeed have been considered beautiful at that time. Here is a picture of her contemporary, Louise of Prussia, who was said to be the most beautiful woman in Europe.

I also really appreciated this about the 1995 version. They found actresses who really held to the beauty standards of the time in a way most of the productions don’t bother with doing.

I disagree.

They were a lot heavier than women of the time, and they were also much older looking than the actual characters in the book.

Seek professional help. No one looked like KK at the time. She looked skeletal and bedraggled.

You have body dysmorphia. Get help.

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Anonymous wrote:Colin Firth. I can’t even watch the other one, the dialogue is wrong and they look awful.
So Colin Firth version. The best of the bests

They "look awful"? Lol

Yes. The guy who plays Darcy in the KK one is fugly. And KK is too flat.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:The “pretty” sister in the Firth version really isn’t pretty.

She's pretty for 1813!

It’s distracting having Jane not be beautiful since everyone is always commenting on her beauty.

The actor playing Jane would indeed have been considered beautiful at that time. Here is a picture of her contemporary, Louise of Prussia, who was said to be the most beautiful woman in Europe.

I also really appreciated this about the 1995 version. They found actresses who really held to the beauty standards of the time in a way most of the productions don’t bother with doing.

I disagree.

They were a lot heavier than women of the time, and they were also much older looking than the actual characters in the book.

There were NOT a lot of heavy women at that time.

Have you ever seen clothing from that era?

And 3 of the 5 sisters were too young to come out. That means the oldest two were probably between 17 and 20 at the oldest.

They were not in their 30s as the 1995 women appeared to be.

Filming for the BBC series that was released in 1995 began in June 1994 when Jennifer Ehle, who was born in December 1969, was 25.

She looks older than the character, who would have been an older teenager.

Incorrect.

Firth/Ehle

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Anonymous wrote:The “pretty” sister in the Firth version really isn’t pretty.

She's pretty for 1813!

It’s distracting having Jane not be beautiful since everyone is always commenting on her beauty.

The actor playing Jane would indeed have been considered beautiful at that time. Here is a picture of her contemporary, Louise of Prussia, who was said to be the most beautiful woman in Europe.

I also really appreciated this about the 1995 version. They found actresses who really held to the beauty standards of the time in a way most of the productions don’t bother with doing.

I disagree.

They were a lot heavier than women of the time, and they were also much older looking than the actual characters in the book.

There were NOT a lot of heavy women at that time.

Have you ever seen clothing from that era?

And 3 of the 5 sisters were too young to come out. That means the oldest two were probably between 17 and 20 at the oldest.

They were not in their 30s as the 1995 women appeared to be.

Filming for the BBC series that was released in 1995 began in June 1994 when Jennifer Ehle, who was born in December 1969, was 25.

She looks older than the character, who would have been an older teenager.

Let us all respond in a proper fortunate manner, as does the written prose of Miss PP above in capturing the tone and meaning of that era.

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Anonymous wrote:The “pretty” sister in the Firth version really isn’t pretty.

She's pretty for 1813!

It’s distracting having Jane not be beautiful since everyone is always commenting on her beauty.

The actor playing Jane would indeed have been considered beautiful at that time. Here is a picture of her contemporary, Louise of Prussia, who was said to be the most beautiful woman in Europe.

I also really appreciated this about the 1995 version. They found actresses who really held to the beauty standards of the time in a way most of the productions don’t bother with doing.

I disagree.

They were a lot heavier than women of the time, and they were also much older looking than the actual characters in the book.

There were NOT a lot of heavy women at that time.

Have you ever seen clothing from that era?

And 3 of the 5 sisters were too young to come out. That means the oldest two were probably between 17 and 20 at the oldest.

They were not in their 30s as the 1995 women appeared to be.

Filming for the BBC series that was released in 1995 began in June 1994 when Jennifer Ehle, who was born in December 1969, was 25.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The “pretty” sister in the Firth version really isn’t pretty. [/quote]

She's pretty for 1813![/quote]

It’s distracting having Jane not be beautiful since everyone is always commenting on her beauty. [/quote]

The actor playing Jane would indeed have been considered beautiful at that time. Here is a picture of her contemporary, Louise of Prussia, who was said to be the most beautiful woman in Europe.

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I also really appreciated this about the 1995 version. They found actresses who really held to the beauty standards of the time in a way most of the productions don’t bother with doing. [/quote]

I disagree.

They were a lot heavier than women of the time, and they were also much older looking than the actual characters in the book.[/quote]

There were NOT a lot of heavy women at that time.

Have you ever seen clothing from that era?

And 3 of the 5 sisters were too young to come out. That means the oldest two were probably between 17 and 20 at the oldest.

They were not in their 30s as the 1995 women appeared to be.
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Filming for the BBC series that was released in 1995 began in June 1994 when Jennifer Ehle, who was born in December 1969, was 25.

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There are shots from the 2005 version that really stick in my head and were just so beautiful. Like my first thought is of Knightley sitting in that big swing. I also think of the costumes, which I think are better in the 2005 movie as are the party scenes, which is unsurprising because they probably spent many multiples the budget on on both compared to the 1995 miniseries.

That said, Firth is Mr. Darcy in my head and I think the dynamic between Firth and Jennifer Ehle is exquisite and feels straight from the pages of the book. It's the repression and restraint. McFayden has both in the 2005 movie but Knightly doesn't really, and it doesn't work as well. She is portrayed as almost a free spirit in Knightly's version. Elizabeth is not a free spirit -- she is the opposite.

That said, truthfully, I prefer both the 1996 Emma and the 1995 Sense and Sensibility to either version of P&P. Gwyneth's Emma is genuinely funny in a way Austen films almost never are (and the more recent Emma definitely isn't). It pokes fun at the character repeatedly in a way that feels loving and sweet. I feel it had to have been influenced by Clueless, right? I don't know if they filmed Emma after Clueless had come out. But that one is probably my favorite.

And then Emma Thompson and Kate Winslet in S&S were such a delight. It's not the most accurate adaptation, but I have such affection for it.

My favorite version of P&P remains the book. Writing this has made me decide to reread it as soon as I finish my current novel.

There are shots from the 2005 version that really stick in my head and were just so beautiful. Like my first thought is of Knightley sitting in that big swing. I also think of the costumes, which I think are better in the 2005 movie as are the party scenes, which is unsurprising because they probably spent many multiples the budget on on both compared to the 1995 miniseries.

And then Emma Thompson and Kate Winslet in S&S were such a delight. It's not the most accurate adaptation, but I have such affection for it.

My favorite version of P&P remains the book. Writing this has made me decide to reread it as soon as I finish my current novel.
That said, Firth is Mr. Darcy in my head and I think the dynamic between Firth and Jennifer Ehle is exquisite and feels straight from the pages of the book. It's the repression and restraint. McFayden has both in the 2005 movie but Knightly doesn't really, and it doesn't work as well. She is portrayed as almost a free spirit in Knightly's version. Elizabeth is not a free spirit -- she is the opposite.

That said, truthfully, I prefer both the 1996 Emma and the 1995 Sense and Sensibility to either version of P&P. Gwyneth's Emma is genuinely funny in a way Austen films almost never are (and the more recent Emma definitely isn't). It pokes fun at the character repeatedly in a way that feels loving and sweet. I feel it had to have been influenced by Clueless, right? I don't know if they filmed Emma after Clueless had come out. But that one is probably my favorite.

And then even though