Anonymous wrote:Listened to little bit of the argument. It is incredibly how far down the Supreme Court has fallen. This argument would not be taken seriously in a high school class. He is arguing that the president is king.

There needs to be a stay issued after this farce and allow the trial to move forward.

Anonymous wrote:The issue of whether Trump's actions on January 6 fell within his official duties has already been decided by the DC Court of Appeals, in Blassingame v Trump:
https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/A3464AEB2C1CB89985258A7800537E73/%24file/22-5069-2029472.pdf

They cited Clinton v. Jones:

Together, Nixon and Clinton establish three governing principles. First, the President is entitled to official immunity from civil damages liability based on actions within the “outer perimeter” of official presidential responsibility, including discretionary acts within the concept of duty associated with the presidency. Second, the President is subject to civil damages suits based on actions taken in an unofficial, private capacity to the same extent as any private citizen. And third, the President’s actions do not fall beyond the outer perimeter of official responsibility merely because they are unlawful or taken for a forbidden purpose. Rather, the President’s official immunity insulates all of his official actions from civil damages liability, regardless of their legality or his motives.

The court found:
Although the line between President and candidate may not always be clear, President Trump’s alleged words and actions were directed toward promoting his victory in the 2020 presidential election rather than carrying out a designated official duty to confirm the integrity of the electoral process, to ensure the faithful execution of the laws, or to fulfill other official purposes.


And ruled against Trump.

This issue has already been litigated, the court should dismiss Trump's challenge.

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this is how it will play out, or at least it's how Trump hopes it will play out

1. Trump will appeal to SCOTUS now
2. Lower court will stay the ruling until SCOTUS hears the case
3. SCOTUS will punt until after the election
4. Trump gets elected
5. SCOTUS indicates a sitting POTUS cannot be tried for this

The Federalist Society - sponsors of Justices Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett and Roberts, are done with Trump. They have backed Haley in 2024.

So no, SCOTUS will not let Trump off. The Justices can just let this stay at the DC Court and let Trump rot.

how do you figure that they are done with Trump? I could see Roberts and Barrett being done with him, but not the others.

They wouldn't be running Haley if they still supported him.

are you saying that they can influence some of the Justices? If so, that is hugely concerning.

We already know that Thomas and Alito are on the take and Kavanaugh was on the take prior to his confirmation when all his debts were paid. GOP senators refused to allow an investigation just as they refused FBI investigation of other women who accused Kavanaugh. Roberts has no integrity and is completely ineffective. Gorsuch is getting even for his mother and Barrett will "dance with the man what brings her." Sotomayor, Kagan, and Brown have, somehow, become "Stepford" SC justices.

Gorsuch’s mom?
Say what now?

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this is how it will play out, or at least it's how Trump hopes it will play out

1. Trump will appeal to SCOTUS now
2. Lower court will stay the ruling until SCOTUS hears the case
3. SCOTUS will punt until after the election
4. Trump gets elected
5. SCOTUS indicates a sitting POTUS cannot be tried for this

The Federalist Society - sponsors of Justices Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett and Roberts, are done with Trump. They have backed Haley in 2024.

So no, SCOTUS will not let Trump off. The Justices can just let this stay at the DC Court and let Trump rot.

how do you figure that they are done with Trump? I could see Roberts and Barrett being done with him, but not the others.

They wouldn't be running Haley if they still supported him.

are you saying that they can influence some of the Justices? If so, that is hugely concerning.

We already know that Thomas and Alito are on the take and Kavanaugh was on the take prior to his confirmation when all his debts were paid. GOP senators refused to allow an investigation just as they refused FBI investigation of other women who accused Kavanaugh. Roberts has no integrity and is completely ineffective. Gorsuch is getting even for his mother and Barrett will "dance with the man what brings her." Sotomayor, Kagan, and Brown have, somehow, become "Stepford" SC justices.

Gorsuch’s mom?
Say what now?

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this is how it will play out, or at least it's how Trump hopes it will play out

1. Trump will appeal to SCOTUS now
2. Lower court will stay the ruling until SCOTUS hears the case
3. SCOTUS will punt until after the election
4. Trump gets elected
5. SCOTUS indicates a sitting POTUS cannot be tried for this

The Federalist Society - sponsors of Justices Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett and Roberts, are done with Trump. They have backed Haley in 2024.

So no, SCOTUS will not let Trump off. The Justices can just let this stay at the DC Court and let Trump rot.

how do you figure that they are done with Trump? I could see Roberts and Barrett being done with him, but not the others.

They wouldn't be running Haley if they still supported him.

are you saying that they can influence some of the Justices? If so, that is hugely concerning.

We already know that Thomas and Alito are on the take and Kavanaugh was on the take prior to his confirmation when all his debts were paid. GOP senators refused to allow an investigation just as they refused FBI investigation of other women who accused Kavanaugh. Roberts has no integrity and is completely ineffective. Gorsuch is getting even for his mother and Barrett will "dance with the man what brings her." Sotomayor, Kagan, and Brown have, somehow, become "Stepford" SC justices.

Gorsuch’s mom?
Say what now?

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, this is how it will play out, or at least it's how Trump hopes it will play out

1. Trump will appeal to SCOTUS now
2. Lower court will stay the ruling until SCOTUS hears the case
3. SCOTUS will punt until after the election
4. Trump gets elected
5. SCOTUS indicates a sitting POTUS cannot be tried for this

The Federalist Society - sponsors of Justices Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett and Roberts, are done with Trump. They have backed Haley in 2024.

So no, SCOTUS will not let Trump off. The Justices can just let this stay at the DC Court and let Trump rot.

how do you figure that they are done with Trump? I could see Roberts and Barrett being done with him, but not the others.

They wouldn't be running Haley if they still supported him.

are you saying that they can influence some of the Justices? If so, that is hugely concerning.

We already know that Thomas and Alito are on the take and Kavanaugh was on the take prior to his confirmation when all his debts were paid. GOP senators refused to allow an investigation just as they refused FBI investigation of other women who accused Kavanaugh. Roberts has no integrity and is completely ineffective. Gorsuch is getting even for his mother and Barrett will "dance with the man what brings her." Sotomayor, Kagan, and Brown have, somehow, become "Stepford" SC justices.