Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 12:53     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

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Anonymous wrote:There are a number of historic districts that n Washington DC and most residents seem quite happy with them.


I wouldn’t say most residents are happy with them vs most residents tolerate them.

On the one hand, nobody moves into Georgetown planning to tear down an 18th century home and replace with a modern home.

However, CC has absolutely no common style and there are many homes built after 1980.

This is one person’s mission to impose their aesthetic in the population. Again, it has no popular support.


The area proposed has very few houses built after 1980 - the ones I can think of were duplexes that came after single family older homes were torn down.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 12:51     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.


Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.


Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.


They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.


He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.


The ANCs are given "great weight" but there have been other landmark and district designations with different levels of opposition or support - in other words it doesn't really matter if people are for it or not, the question is if the application has merit.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 12:49     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.


Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.


Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.


They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.


A councilmember plays no role in the designation process, though if he is personally opposed then that is his right.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 12:27     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

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Anonymous wrote:There are a number of historic districts that n Washington DC and most residents seem quite happy with them.


I wouldn’t say most residents are happy with them vs most residents tolerate them.

On the one hand, nobody moves into Georgetown planning to tear down an 18th century home and replace with a modern home.

However, CC has absolutely no common style and there are many homes built after 1980.

This is one person’s mission to impose their aesthetic in the population. Again, it has no popular support.

I’m going to need a citation here.

All of the historic districts in DC are some of the most affluent areas of the city, which means that more people want to be there than to not be there.


The DC government needs to fund a grant program so that historic preservationists and neighborhood advocates in less advantaged parts of DC can document their history to create more landmarked properties and historic districts.


Sure…let’s take away money from fighting crime and other real problems to impose mindless regulations on DC residents least likely to afford those.

Sure that will go over well.


Developers wouldn’t like it so much. Less opportunity for rapacious gentrification then.


Developers couldn’t care less. It actually doesn’t do much of anything to stop large scale development…just allows you to weigh in on the design of the massive building.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 12:26     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.


Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.


Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.


They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.


He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.


Not sure siding with the pro defund the police and pro housing vouchers ANC and CM is a winning strategy in light of current conditions


Neither of those have anything to do with a historic district.

Luckily it is easy to side with private property rights and mindless regulations on getting a new window or door or exterior light or tons of other things.

It unites everyone of all persuasions in opposition.


How Trumpy. You’re either woefully ignorant or deliberately making SF$! up.


Nah…just pointing out the obvious…but you clearly are some old f**k that just wishes nothing would change.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 12:20     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a number of historic districts that n Washington DC and most residents seem quite happy with them.


I wouldn’t say most residents are happy with them vs most residents tolerate them.

On the one hand, nobody moves into Georgetown planning to tear down an 18th century home and replace with a modern home.

However, CC has absolutely no common style and there are many homes built after 1980.

This is one person’s mission to impose their aesthetic in the population. Again, it has no popular support.

I’m going to need a citation here.

All of the historic districts in DC are some of the most affluent areas of the city, which means that more people want to be there than to not be there.


The DC government needs to fund a grant program so that historic preservationists and neighborhood advocates in less advantaged parts of DC can document their history to create more landmarked properties and historic districts.


Sure…let’s take away money from fighting crime and other real problems to impose mindless regulations on DC residents least likely to afford those.

Sure that will go over well.


Developers wouldn’t like it so much. Less opportunity for rapacious gentrification then.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 12:18     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.


Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.


Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.


They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.


He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.


Not sure siding with the pro defund the police and pro housing vouchers ANC and CM is a winning strategy in light of current conditions


Neither of those have anything to do with a historic district.

Luckily it is easy to side with private property rights and mindless regulations on getting a new window or door or exterior light or tons of other things.

It unites everyone of all persuasions in opposition.


How Trumpy. You’re either woefully ignorant or deliberately making SF$! up.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 12:16     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.


Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.


Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.


They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.


He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.


Not sure siding with the pro defund the police and pro housing vouchers ANC and CM is a winning strategy in light of current conditions


Never heard of a council member weighing in against a historic landmark or district. It’s really not their remit. Can someone please explain to Frumin that he could still do pickle ball in Chevy Chase DC?
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 11:08     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a number of historic districts that n Washington DC and most residents seem quite happy with them.


I wouldn’t say most residents are happy with them vs most residents tolerate them.

On the one hand, nobody moves into Georgetown planning to tear down an 18th century home and replace with a modern home.

However, CC has absolutely no common style and there are many homes built after 1980.

This is one person’s mission to impose their aesthetic in the population. Again, it has no popular support.

I’m going to need a citation here.

All of the historic districts in DC are some of the most affluent areas of the city, which means that more people want to be there than to not be there.


The DC government needs to fund a grant program so that historic preservationists and neighborhood advocates in less advantaged parts of DC can document their history to create more landmarked properties and historic districts.


Sure…let’s take away money from fighting crime and other real problems to impose mindless regulations on DC residents least likely to afford those.

Sure that will go over well.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 10:53     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.


Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.


Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.


This is truly a baby's point of view.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 10:51     Subject: Re:Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

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You're just plain wrong about that. Roads are safer with backed-up cars than with free-flowing car traffic.


But isn’t this worse for the environment ? Idling vehicles and vehicles in stop and go traffic emit more pullulions than in more fluid traffic. Backed-up cars just make respiratory problems worse for pedestrians, nearby residents and even cyclists.


Exactly. And we established right turn on red to cut back on pollution, too. Now cars just sit there for several minutes. Oh well.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 10:27     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a number of historic districts that n Washington DC and most residents seem quite happy with them.


I wouldn’t say most residents are happy with them vs most residents tolerate them.

On the one hand, nobody moves into Georgetown planning to tear down an 18th century home and replace with a modern home.

However, CC has absolutely no common style and there are many homes built after 1980.

This is one person’s mission to impose their aesthetic in the population. Again, it has no popular support.

I’m going to need a citation here.

All of the historic districts in DC are some of the most affluent areas of the city, which means that more people want to be there than to not be there.


The DC government needs to fund a grant program so that historic preservationists and neighborhood advocates in less advantaged parts of DC can document their history to create more landmarked properties and historic districts.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 10:13     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a number of historic districts that n Washington DC and most residents seem quite happy with them.


I wouldn’t say most residents are happy with them vs most residents tolerate them.

On the one hand, nobody moves into Georgetown planning to tear down an 18th century home and replace with a modern home.

However, CC has absolutely no common style and there are many homes built after 1980.

This is one person’s mission to impose their aesthetic in the population. Again, it has no popular support.

I’m going to need a citation here.

All of the historic districts in DC are some of the most affluent areas of the city, which means that more people want to be there than to not be there.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 09:48     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.


Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.


Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.


They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.


He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.


Not sure siding with the pro defund the police and pro housing vouchers ANC and CM is a winning strategy in light of current conditions


Neither of those have anything to do with a historic district.

Luckily it is easy to side with private property rights and mindless regulations on getting a new window or door or exterior light or tons of other things.

It unites everyone of all persuasions in opposition.
Anonymous
Post 11/23/2023 09:43     Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.


Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.


Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.


They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.

Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.

Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.


He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.


Not sure siding with the pro defund the police and pro housing vouchers ANC and CM is a winning strategy in light of current conditions