Anonymous
08/16/2023 16:44
Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had my children young, 20 and 24 and always thought that I would be a young grandparent. They are now 42 (daughter) and 37 (son) and neither want children. I'm not happy about it but have never said anything to them, it's their choice. Having children is not easy (I enjoyed it immensely and still do) and I respect their decision. I would never pressure them to have children, they will certainly inherit any money that I have left, and I love them both no matter what.
You should talk to them. My friends parent did not have this conversation and now her 59 year old childless son wishes the mom did.
They are adults and capable of making their own decisions. They know that I love children and know, even though I haven't said anything, that I would love grandchildren. Having children was important to me, it doesn't seem to be important to them. They don't want the responsibility and I think we can all agree that it is one of the hugest responsibilities that you can take on. I respect their viewpoint and don't feel anyone should be pressured into having children.
I'm with you. My husband and I don't have kids, and neither does his older brother. And my MIL did talk to me about it. Every time she had a glass (or two or three...) of rose. It just makes things awkward.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 16:44
Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
If they don’t have kids then what college will they obsess over and argue about with strangers online?
Anonymous
08/16/2023 16:40
Subject: Re:If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am Gen X and never wanted children. Personal choice. Judge away. But I am now REALLY happy with this decision when I see what is happening with this planet. All of your "ancestral homes" are going to burn to the ground someday soon given this climate. And guess what? Young people don't don't want your old houses, your old shit, and your brown furniture. I am sorry. They just don't! They don't want your books, either (which is sad to me).
THE POINT, OP - IS TO LIVE YOUR LIFE HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT!
Did you know Ben Franklin has 2,000 living descendants? You will have zero.
Do you really think I will give a flying fu€< when I’m dead?
And, with no descendants? No guilt when I don't recycle!
Anonymous
08/16/2023 16:07
Subject: Re:If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am Gen X and never wanted children. Personal choice. Judge away. But I am now REALLY happy with this decision when I see what is happening with this planet. All of your "ancestral homes" are going to burn to the ground someday soon given this climate. And guess what? Young people don't don't want your old houses, your old shit, and your brown furniture. I am sorry. They just don't! They don't want your books, either (which is sad to me).
THE POINT, OP - IS TO LIVE YOUR LIFE HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT!
Did you know Ben Franklin has 2,000 living descendants? You will have zero.
Ben Franklin also participated in drafting the Declaration of Independence, invented many things, was an important diplomat and author, and was a member of both the Continental Congress and the Constitutional Convention. He could have zero descendants and have an astounding legacy.
What have you done worthwhile? Anything?
If your only claim to a worthwhile life is reproduction, you're pathetic. Dogs do that much. Do better.
how many childless people have Benjamin franklin's level of accomplishment? I would say that 99% of people have approximately zero legacy. their work was not important, it was not timeless, it did not change the world. So what if you always met your deadline or became a partner?
I agree that life is more than parenting, carpe diem and all that. But for a vast majority of people, having and raising children is the most significant accomplishment they are ever going to have.
Is all parenting an accomplishment, or just good parenting?
it's both. it's an experience, and also, a result. it's the best and most important legacy a vast majority of people will have. if you are an einstein or a picasso, ok, you don't need kids. otherwise, it's really your best shot of doing something important in your life.
And not everyone is lucky enough to be able to have kids now, even with IVF. Ask me how I know.
Sometimes what you do is the only legacy you have.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 12:54
Subject: Re:If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am Gen X and never wanted children. Personal choice. Judge away. But I am now REALLY happy with this decision when I see what is happening with this planet. All of your "ancestral homes" are going to burn to the ground someday soon given this climate. And guess what? Young people don't don't want your old houses, your old shit, and your brown furniture. I am sorry. They just don't! They don't want your books, either (which is sad to me).
THE POINT, OP - IS TO LIVE YOUR LIFE HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT!
Did you know Ben Franklin has 2,000 living descendants? You will have zero.
Ben Franklin also participated in drafting the Declaration of Independence, invented many things, was an important diplomat and author, and was a member of both the Continental Congress and the Constitutional Convention. He could have zero descendants and have an astounding legacy.
What have you done worthwhile? Anything?
If your only claim to a worthwhile life is reproduction, you're pathetic. Dogs do that much. Do better.
how many childless people have Benjamin franklin's level of accomplishment? I would say that 99% of people have approximately zero legacy. their work was not important, it was not timeless, it did not change the world. So what if you always met your deadline or became a partner?
I agree that life is more than parenting, carpe diem and all that. But for a vast majority of people, having and raising children is the most significant accomplishment they are ever going to have.
Is all parenting an accomplishment, or just good parenting?
it's both. it's an experience, and also, a result. it's the best and most important legacy a vast majority of people will have. if you are an einstein or a picasso, ok, you don't need kids. otherwise, it's really your best shot of doing something important in your life.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 08:59
Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had my children young, 20 and 24 and always thought that I would be a young grandparent. They are now 42 (daughter) and 37 (son) and neither want children. I'm not happy about it but have never said anything to them, it's their choice. Having children is not easy (I enjoyed it immensely and still do) and I respect their decision. I would never pressure them to have children, they will certainly inherit any money that I have left, and I love them both no matter what.
You should talk to them. My friends parent did not have this conversation and now her 59 year old childless son wishes the mom did.
That old son has much, much, muuuuuch bigger problem with himself than childlessness. And he's still blaming the ancient mum.
Anonymous
08/16/2023 08:40
Subject: Re:If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am Gen X and never wanted children. Personal choice. Judge away. But I am now REALLY happy with this decision when I see what is happening with this planet. All of your "ancestral homes" are going to burn to the ground someday soon given this climate. And guess what? Young people don't don't want your old houses, your old shit, and your brown furniture. I am sorry. They just don't! They don't want your books, either (which is sad to me).
THE POINT, OP - IS TO LIVE YOUR LIFE HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT!
Did you know Ben Franklin has 2,000 living descendants? You will have zero.
Ben Franklin also participated in drafting the Declaration of Independence, invented many things, was an important diplomat and author, and was a member of both the Continental Congress and the Constitutional Convention. He could have zero descendants and have an astounding legacy.
What have you done worthwhile? Anything?
If your only claim to a worthwhile life is reproduction, you're pathetic. Dogs do that much. Do better.
how many childless people have Benjamin franklin's level of accomplishment? I would say that 99% of people have approximately zero legacy. their work was not important, it was not timeless, it did not change the world. So what if you always met your deadline or became a partner?
I agree that life is more than parenting, carpe diem and all that. But for a vast majority of people, having and raising children is the most significant accomplishment they are ever going to have.
Is all parenting an accomplishment, or just good parenting?
Anonymous
08/15/2023 23:40
Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:My late 20s son (only child) and his GF say they don’t want kids. Climate crisis, housing crisis and her chronic immune disease all figure in. I hear the same from many of their friends about the same first two factors. We all better get right with it. What choice do we have?
I'm not right with it, but, yes, there isn't another choice. It just sad, and none of the above reasons are valid, really. The world isn't ending and society has seen a lot worse. Another poster discussed what society wikl look like in 40 years without a strong sybsequent generation, and that is far more scary.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 23:33
Subject: Re:If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am Gen X and never wanted children. Personal choice. Judge away. But I am now REALLY happy with this decision when I see what is happening with this planet. All of your "ancestral homes" are going to burn to the ground someday soon given this climate. And guess what? Young people don't don't want your old houses, your old shit, and your brown furniture. I am sorry. They just don't! They don't want your books, either (which is sad to me).
THE POINT, OP - IS TO LIVE YOUR LIFE HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT!
Did you know Ben Franklin has 2,000 living descendants? You will have zero.
Ben Franklin also participated in drafting the Declaration of Independence, invented many things, was an important diplomat and author, and was a member of both the Continental Congress and the Constitutional Convention. He could have zero descendants and have an astounding legacy.
What have you done worthwhile? Anything?
If your only claim to a worthwhile life is reproduction, you're pathetic. Dogs do that much. Do better.
how many childless people have Benjamin franklin's level of accomplishment? I would say that 99% of people have approximately zero legacy. their work was not important, it was not timeless, it did not change the world. So what if you always met your deadline or became a partner?
I agree that life is more than parenting, carpe diem and all that. But for a vast majority of people, having and raising children is the most significant accomplishment they are ever going to have.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 17:56
Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had my children young, 20 and 24 and always thought that I would be a young grandparent. They are now 42 (daughter) and 37 (son) and neither want children. I'm not happy about it but have never said anything to them, it's their choice. Having children is not easy (I enjoyed it immensely and still do) and I respect their decision. I would never pressure them to have children, they will certainly inherit any money that I have left, and I love them both no matter what.
You should talk to them. My friends parent did not have this conversation and now her 59 year old childless son wishes the mom did.
They are adults and capable of making their own decisions. They know that I love children and know, even though I haven't said anything, that I would love grandchildren. Having children was important to me, it doesn't seem to be important to them. They don't want the responsibility and I think we can all agree that it is one of the hugest responsibilities that you can take on. I respect their viewpoint and don't feel anyone should be pressured into having children.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 15:57
Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
My late 20s son (only child) and his GF say they don’t want kids. Climate crisis, housing crisis and her chronic immune disease all figure in. I hear the same from many of their friends about the same first two factors. We all better get right with it. What choice do we have?
Anonymous
08/15/2023 15:46
Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:I kinda secretly hope my kids don't have kids.
May I ask why? I secretly do, too, b/c of disabilities that run in my family and for which my kids would need me to help for many more hours than I am capable (emotionally) of giving.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 14:45
Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:I had my children young, 20 and 24 and always thought that I would be a young grandparent. They are now 42 (daughter) and 37 (son) and neither want children. I'm not happy about it but have never said anything to them, it's their choice. Having children is not easy (I enjoyed it immensely and still do) and I respect their decision. I would never pressure them to have children, they will certainly inherit any money that I have left, and I love them both no matter what.
You should talk to them. My friends parent did not have this conversation and now her 59 year old childless son wishes the mom did.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 13:38
Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:I had my children young, 20 and 24 and always thought that I would be a young grandparent. They are now 42 (daughter) and 37 (son) and neither want children. I'm not happy about it but have never said anything to them, it's their choice. Having children is not easy (I enjoyed it immensely and still do) and I respect their decision. I would never pressure them to have children, they will certainly inherit any money that I have left, and I love them both no matter what.
The 37 year old guy is easy. Just hook him up with a hot girl.
Remember All in the Family. Meathead wanted no kids as Earth overpopulated. Absolutely wanted no kids.
Him and Gloria got to use their Friends Bungalow by the beach one weekend and she brought a string bikini and forgot the birth control.
That’s how easy it is for a man who does not want kids to have kids.
Anonymous
08/15/2023 13:02
Subject: Re:If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am Gen X and never wanted children. Personal choice. Judge away. But I am now REALLY happy with this decision when I see what is happening with this planet. All of your "ancestral homes" are going to burn to the ground someday soon given this climate. And guess what? Young people don't don't want your old houses, your old shit, and your brown furniture. I am sorry. They just don't! They don't want your books, either (which is sad to me).
THE POINT, OP - IS TO LIVE YOUR LIFE HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT!
Did you know Ben Franklin has 2,000 living descendants? You will have zero.
Ben Franklin also participated in drafting the Declaration of Independence, invented many things, was an important diplomat and author, and was a member of both the Continental Congress and the Constitutional Convention. He could have zero descendants and have an astounding legacy.
What have you done worthwhile? Anything?
If your only claim to a worthwhile life is reproduction, you're pathetic. Dogs do that much. Do better.
This x 1000. There is nothing more pathetic than an adult with an email address like tylorsmomma@gmail or momto4kiddos@gmail.