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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret is cleaning up this year, and did well last year. Someone in the admissions office deserves a raise.

They did well the year before last too (2021)

Oxford
Yale
MIT
Stanford
Cornell
Harvard (2)
Chicago
Michigan
Pomona
Brown (2)
Williams
Dartmouth
Georgetown
+more top LACs

https://instagram.com/maretfrogs2021?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I think Sidwell did a little better. I know they’re sending more students to Ivies (plus one to MIT).

Sidwell is significantly larger.

This thread has managed to pose the following question in many different ways: "Is 15% of the class going to ivies good or bad?"

Good or bad relative to what? The baseline always seems to be public school, whether this is phrased as "15% is higher than 5% (or whatever) from the W school" or "I'm paying $50k a year vs. free."

What if you took public schools out of the equation. After all, many public school kids aren't even applying to college, or they're applying to places that will give them merit aid (the ivies don't) or better FA. And sunk costs (that $200k for high school) are sunk costs, as we all learned in econ 101.

So the new question, stripped of useless comparisons, stands alone: is 15% going to the ivies good or bad? And why?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s perfectly possible for a private school to deflate in general and provide targeted inflation for donor kids.

Could you explain this? How did they do this? I think this might be true.

I'm not PP but one way this can happen (not via teacher grading) is for some families to know which courses to take that will best support high GPA. For example, if you know you have a hook, you may not need to take the most rigorous courses - easier courseload leads to higher GPA. The hard part of this equation, though, is it doesn't apply for a non-hooked kid. They take harder courseload and have a high GPA (with maybe a few extra A- vs A) but are shut out of T20. But they can't assume they'd do better in T20 if they took the easier courseload with a 4.0 outcome - because they probably would not. Suppose they were accepted to a T40 with the higher courseload - that may not have happened if they took the easier route.

Oh my. I pay way to much to have to game the system for my non hooked kids. I thought sending him to a private will be the hook. He is not a sport kid. Well he is but not good enough to make a team beyond Freshman year. And he is ok in academics but not a natural super star. I was hoping he can get into a top 40 from my fancy school. Is this to hopeful? I am assuming he'll have A's and A's with a sprinkle of a B here or there if they really won't grade inflate. What can I do to help him stand out? He likes clubs but isn't the kids to "lead" or get elected. Help from unhooked. What do you recommend?

Top 40 very possible. Top 20 less so.

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Anonymous wrote:Trick question. Only hooked students are admitted to HYPS.

Then what explains all the posts denigrating a private school's admits as being based on hooks? If everyone (both public and private) gets in due to some kind of hook, then why are private school admits being targeted specifically?

Only the private schools publish the college list in their marketing material and charge $50,000 a year.

School Without Walls publishes college admissions in their school profile. That’s marketing as well.

Remind me what SWW charges in annual tuition?

Oh, so all of these denigrating posts are because you were too poor to send your children to private school? That’s what I thought.

Continue to seethe.

It seems fairly obvious to me that people who pay $200,000+ for high school, based on college lists marketed to them, have invested more than people who have paid $0, and therefore are more apt to be upset about any gap between the advertised college results and the actual college results. I expect it also helps that the bottom of the list at Walls has always been quite mundane, so that the Walls list does not implicitly promise a T50 or T100 result the way the lists at private schools do. That is why people are angrier about the results for unhooked kids from privates this year than the results for unhooked kids from Walls. (Which, if you will recall, was your initial question.)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trick question. Only hooked students are admitted to HYPS.

Then what explains all the posts denigrating a private school's admits as being based on hooks? If everyone (both public and private) gets in due to some kind of hook, then why are private school admits being targeted specifically?

Only the private schools publish the college list in their marketing material and charge $50,000 a year.

School Without Walls publishes college admissions in their school profile. That’s marketing as well.

Remind me what SWW charges in annual tuition?

Oh, so all of these denigrating posts are because you were too poor to send your children to private school? That’s what I thought.

Continue to seethe.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret is cleaning up this year, and did well last year. Someone in the admissions office deserves a raise.

They did well the year before last too (2021)

Oxford
Yale
MIT
Stanford
Cornell
Harvard (2)
Chicago
Michigan
Pomona
Brown (2)
Williams
Dartmouth
Georgetown
+more top LACs

https://instagram.com/maretfrogs2021?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I think Sidwell did a little better. I know they’re sending more students to Ivies (plus one to MIT).

This post was so unnecessary. I was pointing out to the PP that it’s not just this year and last year that Maret has done quite wells but the year before as well.

Also good to note that Maret has 75-85 graduates each year.

But this year (2023)

Maret has
Harvard - 2
Penn - 6
Yale - 3
Brown -1
Cornell - 1

Not all have posted individually on the IG but some did a video on college gear day. This year is 85 kids so 15% Ivy.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crt-iE3PEUh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret is cleaning up this year, and did well last year. Someone in the admissions office deserves a raise.

They did well the year before last too (2021)

Oxford
Yale
MIT
Stanford
Cornell
Harvard (2)
Chicago
Michigan
Pomona
Brown (2)
Williams
Dartmouth
Georgetown
+more top LACs

https://instagram.com/maretfrogs2021?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I think Sidwell did a little better. I know they’re sending more students to Ivies (plus one to MIT).

This post was so unnecessary. I was pointing out to the PP that it’s not just this year and last year that Maret has done quite wells but the year before as well.

Also good to note that Maret has 75-85 graduates each year.

Anonymous wrote:Some many anti-feminists here. Women finally get a fair shot at the best schools about 50 years ago and the subsequent group of women who went to the best, met and married someone from the best and then have kids who can make it to the best, and those kids are now a problem. Makes no sense.

You’re demented.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is at NCS.
From what I can tell:
20% Ivies
10% U of Chicago
10% other top 20 universities
10% top 10 liberal arts colleges
Etc.
That is 50% of the class into TOP20 colleges/universities. Minimum.

Even with the deflated GPAs (well under 4.0), almost no APs, etc.

STA is similar.
Sidwell has pretty much gotten the entire class in top50 schools.
GDS is a bit uneven.

How exactly are the grades "deflated"? Public schools might inflate grades, but that doesn't mean independent ones deflate them.

Are you new here? Most of the more academics rigorous private schools here pride themselves on giving out significantly less As than area public’s.

What school prides itself on "giving" students FEWER As? Methinks this is a bit of projection on your part. The point remains: it's the grade inflation at public high schools that is the problem.

You are wrong. The private high schools schools have grade inflation much higher than public schools. It’s been documented over and over. Even if they didn’t inflate their grades, which they do, the obsessive parent will have their average kid tutored until he does average work for that school which will be an A. How naive to think high priced schools that are businesses would be allowed to give a student a C when their parents just donated a field.

Do average work and get an A? Hahahahahahahaha....

Anonymous wrote:Some many anti-feminists here. Women finally get a fair shot at the best schools about 50 years ago and the subsequent group of women who went to the best, met and married someone from the best and then have kids who can make it to the best, and those kids are now a problem. Makes no sense.

They didn’t get a fair shot. They got a wealthy white kid shot. Now it’s someone else’s turn - non-legacy and FG.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trick question. Only hooked students are admitted to HYPS.

Then what explains all the posts denigrating a private school's admits as being based on hooks? If everyone (both public and private) gets in due to some kind of hook, then why are private school admits being targeted specifically?

Only the private schools publish the college list in their marketing material and charge $50,000 a year.

School Without Walls publishes college admissions in their school profile. That’s marketing as well.

Remind me what SWW charges in annual tuition?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trick question. Only hooked students are admitted to HYPS.

Then what explains all the posts denigrating a private school's admits as being based on hooks? If everyone (both public and private) gets in due to some kind of hook, then why are private school admits being targeted specifically?

Targeted?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s perfectly possible for a private school to deflate in general and provide targeted inflation for donor kids.

Could you explain this? How did they do this? I think this might be true.

I'm not PP but one way this can happen (not via teacher grading) is for some families to know which courses to take that will best support high GPA. For example, if you know you have a hook, you may not need to take the most rigorous courses - easier courseload leads to higher GPA. The hard part of this equation, though, is it doesn't apply for a non-hooked kid. They take harder courseload and have a high GPA (with maybe a few extra A- vs A) but are shut out of T20. But they can't assume they'd do better in T20 if they took the easier courseload with a 4.0 outcome - because they probably would not. Suppose they were accepted to a T40 with the higher courseload - that may not have happened if they took the easier route.

Oh my. I pay way to much to have to game the system for my non hooked kids. I thought sending him to a private will be the hook. He is not a sport kid. Well he is but not good enough to make a team beyond Freshman year. And he is ok in academics but not a natural super star. I was hoping he can get into a top 40 from my fancy school. Is this to hopeful? I am assuming he'll have A's and A's with a sprinkle of a B here or there if they really won't grade inflate. What can I do to help him stand out? He likes clubs but isn't the kids to "lead" or get elected. Help from unhooked. What do you recommend?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trick question. Only hooked students are admitted to HYPS.

Then what explains all the posts denigrating a private school's admits as being based on hooks? If everyone (both public and private) gets in due to some kind of hook, then why are private school admits being targeted specifically?

Only the private schools publish the college list in their marketing material and charge $50,000 a year.

School Without Walls publishes college admissions in their school profile. That’s marketing as well.

Some many anti-feminists here. Women finally get a fair shot at the best schools about 50 years ago and the subsequent group of women who went to the best, met and married someone from the best and then have kids who can make it to the best, and those kids are now a problem. Makes no sense.