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Anonymous wrote:Winning your pool absolutely matters! Not everybody can face Gateway or the WC Eagles. There are just too many teams at these big showcases!

Gateway?

NP. Yes, Gateway. Look them up.

Clearly not everyone on this thread has the same experience or knowledge.

Well, I'm a long-time field hockey parent (Freedom) and coach, with several current and former college players. It just surprised that when somebody thinks of the most competitive teams they would say Gateway. But I guess I just think of the ones that my kids' teams lost to, and Gateway doesn't come to mind. WC, AGH, Windy City, Texas Pride. Obviously, I know of Gateway. I think they're stronger at younger ages, which must be where you are right now.

Well said. I would not think of Gateway as a major competitor either, and I am a parent with a different club.

The field hockey powerhouses are WC, AGH, Windy City (less so now), TX Pride, CPFH, Freedom, Warhawks. None in this area.

Just because your DD didn’t have the privilege to play against Gateway (club out of Missouri for those not in the know) at the U19 level doesn’t mean they are not a top team. They have been a winning program for years with high level D1 commits. I personally have never seen so many college coaches line the field @ 8 am to watch them play even though basically their whole team was already committed. So to say they are stronger at the younger ages shows your ignorance and weak attempt to gaslight the competition because your DD plays for Freedom. Sorry, the best teams in the country are not from Northern Virginia or Southern Maryland. Club field hockey is still very good here and getting better but each team seems to have their ups and downs over the years. A good exampke is Rampage. Years ago they used to be awesome and now out of business.

Freedom is in the top 3 teams in the country and certainly faced the likes of a Gateway and better. I don't know why you're so hurt that other people on this board also know a thing or two about club field hockey. (Not the Freedom poster here, just wondering why you are so fired up about this.)

How come nobody ever mentions TCOYO or the Saints - two great clubs in Virginia?! TCOYO’s U19 team just won Shooting Star Thanksgiving, destroying everybody in their pool including Freedom’s U19 red team. That same Freedom team won zero games and scored zero goals!!! Why is Freedom sending a U19 team to a big showcase when they can’t even score 1 goal? The other U19 team Freedom sent to Shooting Star Thanksgiving did better but still didn’t win their pool, losing to the Warhawks and tied the Saints.

This is a forum for the DC Metro area. Virginia Beach is not close enough for people to play for regularly, therefore those clubs aren’t included in the discussion. People drive from Northern Virginia to play for Freedom and Warhawks - I know people who do it. I don’t know anyone from this area who plays full-time for a Virginia Beach club.

Those Freedom teams may not have been their top teams due to it being a holiday weekend. Look at NCC or NIT if you want to judge a club.

Go back to previous posts. The original retort was to a Freedom poster bashing Gateway and claiming Freedom is ranked Top 3 in the country. Then accurate info was provided that Freedom failed at Shooting Star Thanksgiving. Freedom also didn’t attend Festival in Florida that same weekend so let’s assume they sent their 2 best U19 teams to Shooting Star because not representing your club at one of the biggest recruiting showcases of the year would be stupid. Now you are using NCC or NIT as excuses. Tsk tsk.

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Anonymous wrote:Winning your pool absolutely matters! Not everybody can face Gateway or the WC Eagles. There are just too many teams at these big showcases!

Gateway?

NP. Yes, Gateway. Look them up.

Clearly not everyone on this thread has the same experience or knowledge.

Well, I'm a long-time field hockey parent (Freedom) and coach, with several current and former college players. It just surprised that when somebody thinks of the most competitive teams they would say Gateway. But I guess I just think of the ones that my kids' teams lost to, and Gateway doesn't come to mind. WC, AGH, Windy City, Texas Pride. Obviously, I know of Gateway. I think they're stronger at younger ages, which must be where you are right now.

Well said. I would not think of Gateway as a major competitor either, and I am a parent with a different club.

The field hockey powerhouses are WC, AGH, Windy City (less so now), TX Pride, CPFH, Freedom, Warhawks. None in this area.

Just because your DD didn’t have the privilege to play against Gateway (club out of Missouri for those not in the know) at the U19 level doesn’t mean they are not a top team. They have been a winning program for years with high level D1 commits. I personally have never seen so many college coaches line the field @ 8 am to watch them play even though basically their whole team was already committed. So to say they are stronger at the younger ages shows your ignorance and weak attempt to gaslight the competition because your DD plays for Freedom. Sorry, the best teams in the country are not from Northern Virginia or Southern Maryland. Club field hockey is still very good here and getting better but each team seems to have their ups and downs over the years. A good exampke is Rampage. Years ago they used to be awesome and now out of business.

Freedom is in the top 3 teams in the country and certainly faced the likes of a Gateway and better. I don't know why you're so hurt that other people on this board also know a thing or two about club field hockey. (Not the Freedom poster here, just wondering why you are so fired up about this.)

How come nobody ever mentions TCOYO or the Saints - two great clubs in Virginia?! TCOYO’s U19 team just won Shooting Star Thanksgiving, destroying everybody in their pool including Freedom’s U19 red team. That same Freedom team won zero games and scored zero goals!!! Why is Freedom sending a U19 team to a big showcase when they can’t even score 1 goal? The other U19 team Freedom sent to Shooting Star Thanksgiving did better but still didn’t win their pool, losing to the Warhawks and tied the Saints.

This is a forum for the DC Metro area. Virginia Beach is not close enough for people to play for regularly, therefore those clubs aren’t included in the discussion. People drive from Northern Virginia to play for Freedom and Warhawks - I know people who do it. I don’t know anyone from this area who plays full-time for a Virginia Beach club.

Those Freedom teams may not have been their top teams due to it being a holiday weekend. Look at NCC or NIT if you want to judge a club.

Go back to previous posts. The original retort was to a Freedom poster bashing Gateway and claiming Freedom is ranked Top 3 in the country. Then accurate info was provided that Freedom failed at Shooting Star Thanksgiving. Freedom also didn’t attend Festival in Florida that same weekend so let’s assume they sent their 2 best U19 teams to Shooting Star because not representing your club at one of the biggest recruiting showcases of the year would be stupid. Now you are using NCC or NIT as excuses. Tsk tsk.

Wow, you have a bone to pick. Warhawks parent?

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Anonymous wrote:Winning your pool absolutely matters! Not everybody can face Gateway or the WC Eagles. There are just too many teams at these big showcases!

Gateway?

NP. Yes, Gateway. Look them up.

Clearly not everyone on this thread has the same experience or knowledge.

Well, I'm a long-time field hockey parent (Freedom) and coach, with several current and former college players. It just surprised that when somebody thinks of the most competitive teams they would say Gateway. But I guess I just think of the ones that my kids' teams lost to, and Gateway doesn't come to mind. WC, AGH, Windy City, Texas Pride. Obviously, I know of Gateway. I think they're stronger at younger ages, which must be where you are right now.

Well said. I would not think of Gateway as a major competitor either, and I am a parent with a different club.

The field hockey powerhouses are WC, AGH, Windy City (less so now), TX Pride, CPFH, Freedom, Warhawks. None in this area.

Just because your DD didn’t have the privilege to play against Gateway (club out of Missouri for those not in the know) at the U19 level doesn’t mean they are not a top team. They have been a winning program for years with high level D1 commits. I personally have never seen so many college coaches line the field @ 8 am to watch them play even though basically their whole team was already committed. So to say they are stronger at the younger ages shows your ignorance and weak attempt to gaslight the competition because your DD plays for Freedom. Sorry, the best teams in the country are not from Northern Virginia or Southern Maryland. Club field hockey is still very good here and getting better but each team seems to have their ups and downs over the years. A good exampke is Rampage. Years ago they used to be awesome and now out of business.

Freedom is in the top 3 teams in the country and certainly faced the likes of a Gateway and better. I don't know why you're so hurt that other people on this board also know a thing or two about club field hockey. (Not the Freedom poster here, just wondering why you are so fired up about this.)

How come nobody ever mentions TCOYO or the Saints - two great clubs in Virginia?! TCOYO’s U19 team just won Shooting Star Thanksgiving, destroying everybody in their pool including Freedom’s U19 red team. That same Freedom team won zero games and scored zero goals!!! Why is Freedom sending a U19 team to a big showcase when they can’t even score 1 goal? The other U19 team Freedom sent to Shooting Star Thanksgiving did better but still didn’t win their pool, losing to the Warhawks and tied the Saints.

This is a forum for the DC Metro area. Virginia Beach is not close enough for people to play for regularly, therefore those clubs aren’t included in the discussion. People drive from Northern Virginia to play for Freedom and Warhawks - I know people who do it. I don’t know anyone from this area who plays full-time for a Virginia Beach club.

Those Freedom teams may not have been their top teams due to it being a holiday weekend. Look at NCC or NIT if you want to judge a club.

Go back to previous posts. The original retort was to a Freedom poster bashing Gateway and claiming Freedom is ranked Top 3 in the country. Then accurate info was provided that Freedom failed at Shooting Star Thanksgiving. Freedom also didn’t attend Festival in Florida that same weekend so let’s assume they sent their 2 best U19 teams to Shooting Star because not representing your club at one of the biggest recruiting showcases of the year would be stupid. Now you are using NCC or NIT as excuses. Tsk tsk.

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Anonymous wrote:Winning your pool absolutely matters! Not everybody can face Gateway or the WC Eagles. There are just too many teams at these big showcases!

Gateway?

NP. Yes, Gateway. Look them up.

Clearly not everyone on this thread has the same experience or knowledge.

Well, I'm a long-time field hockey parent (Freedom) and coach, with several current and former college players. It just surprised that when somebody thinks of the most competitive teams they would say Gateway. But I guess I just think of the ones that my kids' teams lost to, and Gateway doesn't come to mind. WC, AGH, Windy City, Texas Pride. Obviously, I know of Gateway. I think they're stronger at younger ages, which must be where you are right now.

Well said. I would not think of Gateway as a major competitor either, and I am a parent with a different club.

The field hockey powerhouses are WC, AGH, Windy City (less so now), TX Pride, CPFH, Freedom, Warhawks. None in this area.

Just because your DD didn’t have the privilege to play against Gateway (club out of Missouri for those not in the know) at the U19 level doesn’t mean they are not a top team. They have been a winning program for years with high level D1 commits. I personally have never seen so many college coaches line the field @ 8 am to watch them play even though basically their whole team was already committed. So to say they are stronger at the younger ages shows your ignorance and weak attempt to gaslight the competition because your DD plays for Freedom. Sorry, the best teams in the country are not from Northern Virginia or Southern Maryland. Club field hockey is still very good here and getting better but each team seems to have their ups and downs over the years. A good exampke is Rampage. Years ago they used to be awesome and now out of business.

Freedom is in the top 3 teams in the country and certainly faced the likes of a Gateway and better. I don't know why you're so hurt that other people on this board also know a thing or two about club field hockey. (Not the Freedom poster here, just wondering why you are so fired up about this.)

How come nobody ever mentions TCOYO or the Saints - two great clubs in Virginia?! TCOYO’s U19 team just won Shooting Star Thanksgiving, destroying everybody in their pool including Freedom’s U19 red team. That same Freedom team won zero games and scored zero goals!!! Why is Freedom sending a U19 team to a big showcase when they can’t even score 1 goal? The other U19 team Freedom sent to Shooting Star Thanksgiving did better but still didn’t win their pool, losing to the Warhawks and tied the Saints.

This is a forum for the DC Metro area. Virginia Beach is not close enough for people to play for regularly, therefore those clubs aren’t included in the discussion. People drive from Northern Virginia to play for Freedom and Warhawks - I know people who do it. I don’t know anyone from this area who plays full-time for a Virginia Beach club.

Those Freedom teams may not have been their top teams due to it being a holiday weekend. Look at NCC or NIT if you want to judge a club.

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Anonymous wrote:Winning your pool absolutely matters! Not everybody can face Gateway or the WC Eagles. There are just too many teams at these big showcases!

Gateway?

NP. Yes, Gateway. Look them up.

Clearly not everyone on this thread has the same experience or knowledge.

Well, I'm a long-time field hockey parent (Freedom) and coach, with several current and former college players. It just surprised that when somebody thinks of the most competitive teams they would say Gateway. But I guess I just think of the ones that my kids' teams lost to, and Gateway doesn't come to mind. WC, AGH, Windy City, Texas Pride. Obviously, I know of Gateway. I think they're stronger at younger ages, which must be where you are right now.

Well said. I would not think of Gateway as a major competitor either, and I am a parent with a different club.

The field hockey powerhouses are WC, AGH, Windy City (less so now), TX Pride, CPFH, Freedom, Warhawks. None in this area.

Just because your DD didn’t have the privilege to play against Gateway (club out of Missouri for those not in the know) at the U19 level doesn’t mean they are not a top team. They have been a winning program for years with high level D1 commits. I personally have never seen so many college coaches line the field @ 8 am to watch them play even though basically their whole team was already committed. So to say they are stronger at the younger ages shows your ignorance and weak attempt to gaslight the competition because your DD plays for Freedom. Sorry, the best teams in the country are not from Northern Virginia or Southern Maryland. Club field hockey is still very good here and getting better but each team seems to have their ups and downs over the years. A good exampke is Rampage. Years ago they used to be awesome and now out of business.

Freedom is in the top 3 teams in the country and certainly faced the likes of a Gateway and better. I don't know why you're so hurt that other people on this board also know a thing or two about club field hockey. (Not the Freedom poster here, just wondering why you are so fired up about this.)

How come nobody ever mentions TCOYO or the Saints - two great clubs in Virginia?! TCOYO’s U19 team just won Shooting Star Thanksgiving, destroying everybody in their pool including Freedom’s U19 red team. That same Freedom team won zero games and scored zero goals!!! Why is Freedom sending a U19 team to a big showcase when they can’t even score 1 goal? The other U19 team Freedom sent to Shooting Star Thanksgiving did better but still didn’t win their pool, losing to the Warhawks and tied the Saints.

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Anonymous wrote:Winning your pool absolutely matters! Not everybody can face Gateway or the WC Eagles. There are just too many teams at these big showcases!

Gateway?

NP. Yes, Gateway. Look them up.

Clearly not everyone on this thread has the same experience or knowledge.

Well, I'm a long-time field hockey parent (Freedom) and coach, with several current and former college players. It just surprised that when somebody thinks of the most competitive teams they would say Gateway. But I guess I just think of the ones that my kids' teams lost to, and Gateway doesn't come to mind. WC, AGH, Windy City, Texas Pride. Obviously, I know of Gateway. I think they're stronger at younger ages, which must be where you are right now.

Well said. I would not think of Gateway as a major competitor either, and I am a parent with a different club.

The field hockey powerhouses are WC, AGH, Windy City (less so now), TX Pride, CPFH, Freedom, Warhawks. None in this area.

Just because your DD didn’t have the privilege to play against Gateway (club out of Missouri for those not in the know) at the U19 level doesn’t mean they are not a top team. They have been a winning program for years with high level D1 commits. I personally have never seen so many college coaches line the field @ 8 am to watch them play even though basically their whole team was already committed. So to say they are stronger at the younger ages shows your ignorance and weak attempt to gaslight the competition because your DD plays for Freedom. Sorry, the best teams in the country are not from Northern Virginia or Southern Maryland. Club field hockey is still very good here and getting better but each team seems to have their ups and downs over the years. A good exampke is Rampage. Years ago they used to be awesome and now out of business.

Freedom is in the top 3 teams in the country and certainly faced the likes of a Gateway and better. I don't know why you're so hurt that other people on this board also know a thing or two about club field hockey. (Not the Freedom poster here, just wondering why you are so fired up about this.)

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter has played Jackals at different age groups over the last several years and they have never been competitive. I know a girl who left because they were not competitive and the coach yelled a lot.

Nova Extreme is another area club. Also not competitive from what I’ve seen.

Rampage has only u16 and u19 to my knowledge. Husel came out of/broke away from them a few years ago.

Rampage was the oldest hockey club and only hockey club in northern Va for many years. However, Husel is and always has been completely separate from rampage as the directors and owners are completely different people. Husel did probably take most of their athletes but Husel did not spin off from Rampage.

I’m excited for Jackals. They just got acquired by The st. James. I’m not sure if they have indoor field hockey yet but I’m sure they will soon. With access to st.james resources, they will be a powerhouse in a few years.

Anonymous wrote:My daughter has played Jackals at different age groups over the last several years and they have never been competitive. I know a girl who left because they were not competitive and the coach yelled a lot.

Nova Extreme is another area club. Also not competitive from what I’ve seen.

Rampage has only u16 and u19 to my knowledge. Husel came out of/broke away from them a few years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Winning your pool absolutely matters! Not everybody can face Gateway or the WC Eagles. There are just too many teams at these big showcases!

Gateway?

NP. Yes, Gateway. Look them up.

Clearly not everyone on this thread has the same experience or knowledge.

Well, I'm a long-time field hockey parent (Freedom) and coach, with several current and former college players. It just surprised that when somebody thinks of the most competitive teams they would say Gateway. But I guess I just think of the ones that my kids' teams lost to, and Gateway doesn't come to mind. WC, AGH, Windy City, Texas Pride. Obviously, I know of Gateway. I think they're stronger at younger ages, which must be where you are right now.

Well said. I would not think of Gateway as a major competitor either, and I am a parent with a different club.

The field hockey powerhouses are WC, AGH, Windy City (less so now), TX Pride, CPFH, Freedom, Warhawks. None in this area.

Just because your DD didn’t have the privilege to play against Gateway (club out of Missouri for those not in the know) at the U19 level doesn’t mean they are not a top team. They have been a winning program for years with high level D1 commits. I personally have never seen so many college coaches line the field @ 8 am to watch them play even though basically their whole team was already committed. So to say they are stronger at the younger ages shows your ignorance and weak attempt to gaslight the competition because your DD plays for Freedom. Sorry, the best teams in the country are not from Northern Virginia or Southern Maryland. Club field hockey is still very good here and getting better but each team seems to have their ups and downs over the years. A good exampke is Rampage. Years ago they used to be awesome and now out of business.

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Anonymous wrote:Winning your pool absolutely matters! Not everybody can face Gateway or the WC Eagles. There are just too many teams at these big showcases!

Gateway?

NP. Yes, Gateway. Look them up.

Clearly not everyone on this thread has the same experience or knowledge.

Well, I'm a long-time field hockey parent (Freedom) and coach, with several current and former college players. It just surprised that when somebody thinks of the most competitive teams they would say Gateway. But I guess I just think of the ones that my kids' teams lost to, and Gateway doesn't come to mind. WC, AGH, Windy City, Texas Pride. Obviously, I know of Gateway. I think they're stronger at younger ages, which must be where you are right now.

Well said. I would not think of Gateway as a major competitor either, and I am a parent with a different club.

The field hockey powerhouses are WC, AGH, Windy City (less so now), TX Pride, CPFH, Freedom, Warhawks. None in this area.

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Anonymous wrote:Winning your pool absolutely matters! Not everybody can face Gateway or the WC Eagles. There are just too many teams at these big showcases!

Gateway?

NP. Yes, Gateway. Look them up.

Clearly not everyone on this thread has the same experience or knowledge.

Well, I'm a long-time field hockey parent (Freedom) and coach, with several current and former college players. It just surprised that when somebody thinks of the most competitive teams they would say Gateway. But I guess I just think of the ones that my kids' teams lost to, and Gateway doesn't come to mind. WC, AGH, Windy City, Texas Pride. Obviously, I know of Gateway. I think they're stronger at younger ages, which must be where you are right now.

Well said. I would not think of Gateway as a major competitor either, and I am a parent with a different club.

The field hockey powerhouses are WC, AGH, Windy City (less so now), TX Pride, CPFH, Freedom, Warhawks. None in this area.

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Anonymous wrote:Winning your pool absolutely matters! Not everybody can face Gateway or the WC Eagles. There are just too many teams at these big showcases!

Gateway?

NP. Yes, Gateway. Look them up.

Clearly not everyone on this thread has the same experience or knowledge.

Well, I'm a long-time field hockey parent (Freedom) and coach, with several current and former college players. It just surprised that when somebody thinks of the most competitive teams they would say Gateway. But I guess I just think of the ones that my kids' teams lost to, and Gateway doesn't come to mind. WC, AGH, Windy City, Texas Pride. Obviously, I know of Gateway. I think they're stronger at younger ages, which must be where you are right now.