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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

OOS legacy applicants are reviewed with the in state pool. That’s a pretty big bump. In state legacies don’t get as much of a bump.

I don’t think OOS legacies are considered any more with the In-state pool. I believe
AO Greg Roberts changed that policy quietly about a year sbd a half ago and I learned that here and was surprised. I can’t find that link now. I’m not a member of the UVA legacy fact page so can’t access. Perhaps a UVA member can look it up for us.

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Your tax dollars have funded lots of great schools, too, and I have no doubt he’ll get into one of those.

And very few of your tax dollars are going to UVA anyway. That’s the price they paid for more autonomy from the state.

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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

OOS legacy applicants are reviewed with the in state pool. That’s a pretty big bump. In state legacies don’t get as much of a bump.

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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

Maybe I’m failing at reading comprehension, but I don’t understand this. You weren’t supporting them to get your kid in, but if you’re kid doesn’t get in, you’ll stop supporting them?

I read it as they are no longer giving personal contributions. I did the same when my Ivy didn’t accept my high stats kid. No reason to send that money there anymore. There are greater needs in the world. Like Turkey

Sure, but then it doesn’t make sense to say that you were never giving in hopes that it would get your kid in. To all the alums, remember that once you leave UVA, you are just a single, tiny data point in a vast and increasingly tech-driven fundraising machine. There are certain levels of money that will get you somewhere, but a few hundred to the alumni association or reunion committee isn’t it.

Also remember that some off us wonder whether it is consistent with the mission of a public university to be giving any legacy advantage whatsoever.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

✔️ DONE

And another angry DCUM parent is born. Remember this thread when the UVA threads go off the rails. Your kid is not owed admission anywhere. I get that you’re sad for then but anger at the school is misplaced.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

I agree with pp that schools should just reject a huge number of deferred applicants. Kids won’t withdraw because the deferral gives them false hope. It’s a ridiculous practice.

Same can be said for many other elective schools that defer almost 100% of EA/SCEA applicants.

UVa is actually far more restrictive with deferrals than most schools, deferring only 20 percent. Some schools defer 80 to 100 percent of non acceptances.

NP. I agree with that, but with others (Tufts, CWRU, etc) the reason is yield protection. I think what troubles some is why does UVA defer 7,700 when yield protection doesn't apply.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

I agree with pp that schools should just reject a huge number of deferred applicants. Kids won’t withdraw because the deferral gives them false hope. It’s a ridiculous practice.

Same can be said for many other elective schools that defer almost 100% of EA/SCEA applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

I agree with pp that schools should just reject a huge number of deferred applicants. Kids won’t withdraw because the deferral gives them false hope. It’s a ridiculous practice.

Same can be said for many other elective schools that defer almost 100% of EA/SCEA applicants.

UVa is actually far more restrictive with deferrals than most schools, deferring only 20 percent. Some schools defer 80 to 100 percent of non acceptances.

NP. I agree with that, but with others (Tufts, CWRU, etc) the reason is yield protection. I think what troubles some is why does UVA defer 7,700 when yield protection doesn't apply.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

I agree with pp that schools should just reject a huge number of deferred applicants. Kids won’t withdraw because the deferral gives them false hope. It’s a ridiculous practice.

Same can be said for many other elective schools that defer almost 100% of EA/SCEA applicants.

UVa is actually far more restrictive with deferrals than most schools, deferring only 20 percent. Some schools defer 80 to 100 percent of non acceptances.

NP. I agree with that, but with others (Tufts, CWRU, etc) the reason is yield protection. I think what troubles some is why does UVA defer 7,700 when yield protection doesn't apply.

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Is this a NOVA public HS? If so, 7 APs is kind of low.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

I agree with pp that schools should just reject a huge number of deferred applicants. Kids won’t withdraw because the deferral gives them false hope. It’s a ridiculous practice.

Same can be said for many other elective schools that defer almost 100% of EA/SCEA applicants.

UVa is actually far more restrictive with deferrals than most schools, deferring only 20 percent. Some schools defer 80 to 100 percent of non acceptances.

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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

Maybe I’m failing at reading comprehension, but I don’t understand this. You weren’t supporting them to get your kid in, but if you’re kid doesn’t get in, you’ll stop supporting them?

I read it as they are no longer giving personal contributions. I did the same when my Ivy didn’t accept my high stats kid. No reason to send that money there anymore. There are greater needs in the world. Like Turkey

Sure, but then it doesn’t make sense to say that you were never giving in hopes that it would get your kid in. To all the alums, remember that once you leave UVA, you are just a single, tiny data point in a vast and increasingly tech-driven fundraising machine. There are certain levels of money that will get you somewhere, but a few hundred to the alumni association or reunion committee isn’t it.

Also remember that some of us wonder whether it is consistent with the mission of a public university to be giving any legacy advantage whatsoever.

I would agree if legacy kids were getting in with lower stats. But they aren’t (at least at UVA). Legacy admits tend to have higher stats. As someone else said, it’s the final bump between two otherwise equal candidates.