Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted several times because I am tired of the extreme gaslighting. Not the only one by any means. No idea about Cabin John on any given day. DC is really bad.

Well, what are you doing about it other than complaining on this forum?

Anonymous wrote:Show me one study that measures UFP concentrations 10–12 miles away from the airport. That is the distance we’re talking g about. The heights of the planes are also at least 3k feet.

Again, this is the setting over Cabin John and further north.

It’s a different situation over Foxhall. Let’s be clear which situation we’re talking about.

Btw, one poster posting again and again about the same topic is somewhat indicative of mental illness or OCD.

All of them do, by the way. But I guess there are not than many yet and the altitude matters. It’s not for me but as long as its informed choice, you do you.

I’ve posted several times because I am tired of the extreme gaslighting. Not the only one by any means. No idea about Cabin John on any given day. DC is really bad.

Show me one study that measures UFP concentrations 10–12 miles away from the airport. That is the distance we’re talking g about. The heights of the planes are also at least 3k feet.

Again, this is the setting over Cabin John and further north.

It’s a different situation over Foxhall. Let’s be clear which situation we’re talking about.

Btw, one poster posting again and again about the same topic is somewhat indicative of mental illness or OCD.

Eh, I’d say it’s more irrational to claim to not see or hear the constant planes overhead. I can see people doing it to punk the buyers, but you can’t be real.

Also? Generally, when you are calling people “mentally ill” and a “lone crazy” as your only argument, it’s a good indicator that you have none.

If none of it is real or a big deal, why did the citizen associations sue the FAA? Why do they pour so much effort into clawing back some semblance of normalcy for the neighborhood?

Did you tell them all they are mentally ill; and not lightly? I can’t see it in any of the meeting minutes. Mostly just many of your neighbors at their wits end complaining about the plane noise and pollution. I invite you to come to the next meeting and say it if you really believe it so they can all seek help as you suggest.

By the way, it’s despicable to abuse the mental illness Dx like that and make a mockery of people who may legitimately struggle (and none of them/it has to do with this plane noise thread and you know it).

Anonymous wrote:I'm in the 'its not a big deal' camp as a resident of glen echo. I have never been woken up by the airplane noise and am curious if those who have are sleeping with windows open or just really light sleepers. I can't hear the planes from my bed if I tried. genuinely confused.

Same here. Don't hear it. A lot of posters here sound legitimately mentally ill and I'm not saying that lightly.

Trade you planes for pickleball? Not sure it’s a fair trade? Anyway, Palisades has both.

Why so angry? Maybe I misread the sentiment but it is understandably a big deal IMHO. It’s like choosing to live on the top of a subway line, next to the train tracks, in the light industrial zone, or next to a highway, but without the discount or ability to predict how your investment (and life in the house) will fare in the future. I admire people who say they can’t hear it and it’s not a big deal. That some superhuman stuff right there.

Anonymous wrote:You can't assess plane noise just by one visit... if you can't go back and visit multiple days at different times of the day (ideally spread out across a month to account for varying wind speeds), use the Flight Aware app to start looking at the flight patterns over neighborhoods. It shows you exactly when and where planes are going in real time and at what elevation. Then you can guestimate the noise how the noise would be if you were living there.

Ok, if it's that big a deal for you then you should do that. We visited the neighborhoods we were considering many times before we bought. A home purchase is a big decision. If you don't take care in it, then that's on you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read the comments here too:
https://www.change.org/p/federal-aviation-administration-reagan-national-overflights

The airplane noise is so constant and so loud that it is driving us insane. We are interrupted constantly indoors and outdoors. We are awakened every morning before 6am, and we fall asleep to the roar of airplanes too.

I cannot get rid of a cough that makes my life miserable and my doctor told me that is caused by pollution, so there is only two choices either they cut the flights over my place or we, as neighbors victims, will start a class action

Planes in and out of Reagan National fly down my street and over my house at low altitudes (I can see the tail colors) all day, from 5am until 11pm. For several hours of the day, the frequency is every 20 seconds. They are so loud as to interrupt conversation outside, and I can often smell the jet fuel. Our air quality is suffering and not being adequately monitored.

And many more.

The bolded is my favorite. Yes, the only options are cutting the planes (to where?!) or a class action (asking for what?). Just move!

Your smugness is revolting. How do you know if moving is an option for the poster.

You are so smart and made a great decision about your house location. You are controlling 1 over 100000000 factors that affect your health. Good luck!

Smug? The person who expects the FAA to change flight patterns for thousands of commercial jets carrying millions of people so they affect other people instead of her is the smug one.

You can't assess plane noise just by one visit... if you can't go back and visit multiple days at different times of the day (ideally spread out across a month to account for varying wind speeds), use the Flight Aware app to start looking at the flight patterns over neighborhoods. It shows you exactly when and where planes are going in real time and at what elevation. Then you can guestimate the noise how the noise would be if you were living there.

Anonymous wrote:My experience in the home buying process was that the agents and even some neighbors made me doubt my own eyes and ears and official reports. I felt guilt for asking and I felt that I was somehow weak for thinking it. And that Sunday pm traffic is an indicator of nothing compared to a weekday. But Monday morning made me snap out of it. And to be honest, the dishonesty is making me a bit angry. There was only one very honest homeowner in that whole period.

I forgot to say that that homeowner was a neighbor. They used the words such as “devastated”, and I am grateful.

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Anonymous wrote:Fair, but should this be a merely self-serving action? I would support mandatory disclosures. If DC has to buy the properties under the flight path, instead of the next tricked buyer, things will change fast.

If it's actually as bad as you say, wouldn't the buyer easily notice it while touring the house?

We're in Potomac near the river and it's really not a big deal. Can't hear the planes at all inside. We notice them outside, but they are fairly high by the time they get to us. I'm occasionally at the park in Palisades near the river and they are definitely quite loud there. I'd be annoyed if I lived there, but there's no way I would have missed it while house shopping either.

I think the altitude makes a big difference, to your point.

Wow, what a counterargument, bravo.

Do you think the same about the hundreds of your neighbors who joined the FAA community call and signed the petitions?

There is a single insane person sockpuppeting this thread. They need to get help.