Wondering how many of those OOS applicants are legacy and if it helps at all!! Sure am hoping so!

Anonymous wrote:The unhinged UMich basher in this thread is an MSU employee who has a bachelor’s from degree mill Michigan state.

Fixed it for you.

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Anonymous wrote:How is Umich vs Penn for engineering?

No difference unless you want to work in finance/consulting…what Penn engineering gives you is more optionality at lower gpa levels

If you want to work in engineering / tech, a 3.5+ grad from Michigan will be the same as Penn

That’s Nonsense. That’s like saying there’s no difference between Harvard and Michigan in engineering. You’d probably say Harvard is better than Penn too, since it’s ranked higher by USNWR as a university. Any grad from Michigan with an equal GPA to a Penn grad in tech/engineering will be looked on similarly. Michigan is known as an engineering powerhouse; Penn, not so much.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it does. In from NY. Went to NYU. Visited a close friend at Michigan junior year and always said if I’d gone or two years earlier I would have wanted to transfer. Great academics, great culture, great college town, great sports. It’s the full package. But impossible to get into these days.

How is Michigan impossible to get into when they take 4000 oos kids a year? That’s huge!

What’s Michigan’s yield on oos?

Michigan is markedly easier to get into than penn for example.

8% last year

You mean 18%

I haven’t seen anywhere that says it is 8% acceptance rate for oos .

Going by memory, but they had around 90,000 applications last year, 20,000 were in state. That yielded 6,000 acceptance for 4,000 seats. That leaves around 70,000 OOS applications for 8,000 acceptances and 4,000 seats. So closer to 11%

Anonymous wrote:How is Umich vs Penn for engineering?

No difference unless you want to work in finance/consulting…what Penn engineering gives you is more optionality at lower gpa levels

If you want to work in engineering / tech, a 3.5+ grad from Michigan will be the same as Penn

The unhinged UMich booster in this thread is a UMich employee who has a bachelor’s from degree mill Michigan state.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

Michigan #6

Penn #22

How is Umich vs Penn for engineering?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it does. In from NY. Went to NYU. Visited a close friend at Michigan junior year and always said if I’d gone or two years earlier I would have wanted to transfer. Great academics, great culture, great college town, great sports. It’s the full package. But impossible to get into these days.

How is Michigan impossible to get into when they take 4000 oos kids a year? That’s huge!

What’s Michigan’s yield on oos?

Michigan is markedly easier to get into than penn for example.

Of course. They admit about 16K students per year while Penn admits 3K. Also, Penn is ranked much higher, and is an Ivy.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it does. In from NY. Went to NYU. Visited a close friend at Michigan junior year and always said if I’d gone or two years earlier I would have wanted to transfer. Great academics, great culture, great college town, great sports. It’s the full package. But impossible to get into these days.

How is Michigan impossible to get into when they take 4000 oos kids a year? That’s huge!

What’s Michigan’s yield on oos?

Michigan is markedly easier to get into than penn for example.

8% last year

You mean 18%

I haven’t seen anywhere that says it is 8% acceptance rate for oos .

80K applicants in 2021 with 16K admits. They don’t break down OOS numbers on the website from what I can tell. 7200 enrollees.

Numbers keep going up every year, this year will be high due to potential for CFP championship!

Anonymous wrote:My conservative DC loves it in Michigan. But most students are not conservative.

96% voted blue this fall

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it does. In from NY. Went to NYU. Visited a close friend at Michigan junior year and always said if I’d gone or two years earlier I would have wanted to transfer. Great academics, great culture, great college town, great sports. It’s the full package. But impossible to get into these days.

How is Michigan impossible to get into when they take 4000 oos kids a year? That’s huge!

What’s Michigan’s yield on oos?

Michigan is markedly easier to get into than penn for example.

8% last year

My daughter chose Michigan over Penn, Duke and Cornell. Then again, she was a Shipman Scholar and Michigan with virtually no tuition with the scholarship was too good of a deal to pass up. The school is excellent and has typically great outcomes. Ann Arbor is one of the best college towns in the country. The school is large, but graduates learn to navigate the institution and it benefits them after graduation. I rejected an athletic scholarship offer decades ago and it was in hindsight a poor dec ision.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it does. In from NY. Went to NYU. Visited a close friend at Michigan junior year and always said if I’d gone or two years earlier I would have wanted to transfer. Great academics, great culture, great college town, great sports. It’s the full package. But impossible to get into these days.

How is Michigan impossible to get into when they take 4000 oos kids a year? That’s huge!

What’s Michigan’s yield on oos?

Michigan is markedly easier to get into than penn for example.

It’s not impossible of course, but definitely difficult. Of course smaller elite schools like Penn will always be a harder admit.

Yes, it’s not in penns league. But it’s difficult now, particularly for out of state.

It’s not in Penn’s league in terms of admissions. Academically is another story.