Anonymous
07/05/2022 15:08
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If it wasn’t with guns it would be with a truck like in Waukesha
The problem is that 35% of boys from 18-30 are sexless virgins and rising rapidly. A society full of angry frustrated young men will burn it all down
Is this correct? Banning abortion isn’t going to get them more sex.
And pro choice folks remind us that banning abortion doesn’t mean there won’t be abortions being performed anyway.
But then the same people think that banning guns means no one will be able to get a gun.
Cognitive dissonance, anyone?
Anonymous
07/05/2022 15:02
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?
If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)
So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.
But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.
Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.
No moving of goalposts, these are laws that have been on the books for more than 100 years.
With respect to MD's in-depth background check, there is nothing there that could have prevented the recent mass shooters. But a good and reasonable clause would have.
Yes. Now it’s time to get rid of all personally owned firearms and ammunition, as well as the second amendment. Heller was a travesty. Too many people are dying.
So how do you think such a thing will be achieved?
Even if you repealed the second amendment - which is incredibly doubtful anyway - how do you propose to remove the 400,000,000 guns from the 90 million people who own them?
Existing criminals can’t even be disarmed right now. What expectations do you have for disarming 1/3 of this country’s population who were formerly law-abiding who you transformed *into being criminals* when you made their guns illegal?
It’s just not going happen.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 14:45
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If it wasn’t with guns it would be with a truck like in Waukesha
The problem is that 35% of boys from 18-30 are sexless virgins and rising rapidly. A society full of angry frustrated young men will burn it all down
Is this correct? Banning abortion isn’t going to get them more sex.
My question when I read right wing blogs and such (and I do, it’s important info although loathsome) is what’s going to happen to women when they won’t “voluntarily” have sex with men anymore? How will they attempt to compel women?
Adrian Vermuele is a leader in this movement. Harvard. Patrick Deneen, Norte Dame. They aren’t advocating for more choice but less. How much will they get away with it before the pendulum swings back?
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:56
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?
If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)
So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.
But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.
Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.
I would like all gun owners to go through that licensing and registration. I also want certain firearms banned and illegal to own as well as high capacity magazines. I also want all this to be federal and not state law.
- a liberal who is a gun owner.
I didn't see any requirement for a robust psychological screening, either. Many legal gun buyers turn out to be either a danger to themselves (suicide) and/or to others (homicide).
I think they should be treated like cars. Require titling and registration, and every gun owner must periodically present their guns for inspection to make sure they are still safe to operate, haven't been illegally modified, and above all, are still in their possessions - if not, they need to be fully accounted for. Also, gun owners should be required to carry insurance. I am a gun owner myself, by the way - and I would be fine with all of this.
Yes all of the above. If a total ban isn't going to happen, treating guns like cars makes complete sense from a societal perspective. Cars, guns they both are lethal weapons in the right/wrong circumstances.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:50
Subject: Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:I don't think you have it quite right. The left doesn't want any of the shooters to have easy access to weapons, so they want to ban the weapons. Whereas I would be happy to see these "known to police" types appearing on the NICS so that they cannot legally purchase the weapons.Anonymous wrote:The politics of all the shootings is this: the left didn’t want any of the shooters to have easy access to weapons; the right did. You arm delusional people. This is the effect of your cause.
So few of these murderers were known police types. It's like picking a needle in a haystack. That's why reasonable Dems want to ban assault rifles and severely restrict others.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:43
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So horrible! Wtf is wrong with our country that we continue to let this happen?!!
The most powerful fringe segment of wealthy white conservative elites want to retain their power at any cost imaginable. They will start systemically killing people - Holocaust style - if they are not stopped now.
They want guns to flood the streets because they want you to feel like government cannot protect you. If government doesn’t protect you, they are hoping that you’ll acquiesce to a strongman conservative authoritarian.
It’s a classic bait and switch - they create the problem and then try to convince you that they are the only ones who can solve the problem they created.
Ugh...they say everyone else has an agenda, yet they're the only group with an agenda. I mean the "gay agenda" is to live with the person they love. Not exactly as diabolical.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:34
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?
If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)
So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.
But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.
Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.
No moving of goalposts, these are laws that have been on the books for more than 100 years.
With respect to MD's in-depth background check, there is nothing there that could have prevented the recent mass shooters. But a good and reasonable clause would have.
Yes. Now it’s time to get rid of all personally owned firearms and ammunition, as well as the second amendment. Heller was a travesty. Too many people are dying.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:34
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?
If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)
So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.
But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.
Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.
I would like all gun owners to go through that licensing and registration. I also want certain firearms banned and illegal to own as well as high capacity magazines. I also want all this to be federal and not state law.
- a liberal who is a gun owner.
Why do you own a gun at all?
Aren’t you worried you’ll snap and murder someone with it?
No. But I am afraid that people like you will.
Is that right?
Fascinating. Why do you feel that way? On what do you base that, given we don’t know each other at all?
I bet you’d seek a red flag order on me just because you don’t like me, wouldn’t you?
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:32
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:
Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?
If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)
So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.
But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.
Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.
No moving of goalposts, these are laws that have been on the books for more than 100 years.
With respect to MD's in-depth background check, there is nothing there that could have prevented the recent mass shooters. But a good and reasonable clause would have.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:29
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?
If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)
So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.
But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.
Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.
I would like all gun owners to go through that licensing and registration. I also want certain firearms banned and illegal to own as well as high capacity magazines. I also want all this to be federal and not state law.
- a liberal who is a gun owner.
I didn't see any requirement for a robust psychological screening, either. Many legal gun buyers turn out to be either a danger to themselves (suicide) and/or to others (homicide).
I think they should be treated like cars. Require titling and registration, and every gun owner must periodically present their guns for inspection to make sure they are still safe to operate, haven't been illegally modified, and above all, are still in their possessions - if not, they need to be fully accounted for. Also, gun owners should be required to carry insurance. I am a gun owner myself, by the way - and I would be fine with all of this.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:19
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?
If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)
So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.
But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.
Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.
I would like all gun owners to go through that licensing and registration. I also want certain firearms banned and illegal to own as well as high capacity magazines. I also want all this to be federal and not state law.
- a liberal who is a gun owner.
Why do you own a gun at all?
Aren’t you worried you’ll snap and murder someone with it?
No. But I am afraid that people like you will.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:11
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?
If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)
So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.
But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.
Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.
I would like all gun owners to go through that licensing and registration. I also want certain firearms banned and illegal to own as well as high capacity magazines. I also want all this to be federal and not state law.
- a liberal who is a gun owner.
Why do you own a gun at all?
Aren’t you worried you’ll snap and murder someone with it?
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:10
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?
If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)
So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.
But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.
Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.
I would like all gun owners to go through that licensing and registration. I also want certain firearms banned and illegal to own as well as high capacity magazines. I also want all this to be federal and not state law.
- a liberal who is a gun owner.
+1. Same.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:09
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Libs say they want in-depth background checks and waiting periods for guns, right ? Yes or no?
If yes, then all the people applying for MD permits will be subject to VERY in-depth background checks (I’m doing it in MD right now. Requires photo, 8 hours classroom training, range training, a demonstration of proficiency test, a firearm laws test, fingerprints, 3 non-family references and a application fee. Wait time is currently 90-120 days)
So that’s basically what libs want for guns, right? This is the exact stuff they say should be required for a gun. And that’s what everyone applying for a MD permit is doing.
But NOW it’s not good enough. Now it’s a problem. All the stuff you all said you wanted in the past, isn’t enough now.
Please explain why the goalposts have wheels on them.
Strawman argument is made of straw.
Please explain.
Use small words and succinct sentences. Pretend you’re explaining it to a child.
What is a straw man about that post?
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:07
Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting
Anonymous wrote:Very "timely" fro Hogan with love to Marylanders. Larry, next time the mass shooting happens in Md, it's on you.
Huh? Baltimore has gang related shootings and fallout every day. Does mass shorting mean the criminal shot more than 2 people or 4 now?