Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 07:05     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Most cops never fire their gun in their careers against a criminal. The focus on the SRO having a gun is a distraction issue. Properly trained SROs are very valuable in schools. That is why most want them back. The purpose is to deter crime and violence.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 06:28     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

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Anonymous wrote:I have an SRO at my school…only one person…but I support someone being armed in my building

What do you expect them to do with a pistol v high capacity assault rifle?


It only takes on good shot to kill someone.


Or one bad to miss and hit a child, which is the most likely outcome.


What is your solution? MCPS cannot do a state, county or federal gun ban so that's not even an option. You don't want police, security, SRO's or metal detectors so there is nothing that MCPS can do given nothing will please you. I'd like several armed police at every school.

Let's just put fully armed national guardsmen in schools.


That is not what the guardian do, that’s what police do. What is your real life solution that can be implemented?

Sorry - there's no easy solution short of removing most guns from Americans' hands, and that's not happening. Any other "solution" can be too easily defeated.

Can't get a gun into a building? Plenty of opportunity before school, after school, or recess/PE. Or call in a bomb threat and the kids to come out to you.


Exactly, but having basic security in the schools is better than nothing. And, it doesn't have to be a gun. They can use so many other weapons too. MCPS cannot do gun control. What MCPS can do is increase security.


If the county is really serious about putting police officers in schools they should be required to have training specifically for this.


They are required to have special training which focuses on de-escalation, disability awareness, implicit bias, and contributing to a positive student environment. These factors are also considered during the selection process, including a thorough review of the officer’s record.

What this debate really comes down to is whether people trust policing as a whole. Some posters see the value in having police at schools since schools are experiencing similar crimes as the greater community. Others hate officers in general and think their very presence is offensive. The county has already decided to put officers back in a redefined role (community engagement officers), which increases training and oversight:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/security-new/220426-MCPS-Police-MOU-CEO.pdf

Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 05:38     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have an SRO at my school…only one person…but I support someone being armed in my building

What do you expect them to do with a pistol v high capacity assault rifle?


It only takes on good shot to kill someone.


Or one bad to miss and hit a child, which is the most likely outcome.


What is your solution? MCPS cannot do a state, county or federal gun ban so that's not even an option. You don't want police, security, SRO's or metal detectors so there is nothing that MCPS can do given nothing will please you. I'd like several armed police at every school.

Let's just put fully armed national guardsmen in schools.


That is not what the guardian do, that’s what police do. What is your real life solution that can be implemented?

Sorry - there's no easy solution short of removing most guns from Americans' hands, and that's not happening. Any other "solution" can be too easily defeated.

Can't get a gun into a building? Plenty of opportunity before school, after school, or recess/PE. Or call in a bomb threat and the kids to come out to you.


Exactly, but having basic security in the schools is better than nothing. And, it doesn't have to be a gun. They can use so many other weapons too. MCPS cannot do gun control. What MCPS can do is increase security.


If the county is really serious about putting police officers in schools they should be required to have training specifically for this.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 16:44     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have an SRO at my school…only one person…but I support someone being armed in my building

What do you expect them to do with a pistol v high capacity assault rifle?


It only takes on good shot to kill someone.


Or one bad to miss and hit a child, which is the most likely outcome.


What is your solution? MCPS cannot do a state, county or federal gun ban so that's not even an option. You don't want police, security, SRO's or metal detectors so there is nothing that MCPS can do given nothing will please you. I'd like several armed police at every school.

Let's just put fully armed national guardsmen in schools.


That is not what the guardian do, that’s what police do. What is your real life solution that can be implemented?

Sorry - there's no easy solution short of removing most guns from Americans' hands, and that's not happening. Any other "solution" can be too easily defeated.

Can't get a gun into a building? Plenty of opportunity before school, after school, or recess/PE. Or call in a bomb threat and the kids to come out to you.


Exactly, but having basic security in the schools is better than nothing. And, it doesn't have to be a gun. They can use so many other weapons too. MCPS cannot do gun control. What MCPS can do is increase security.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 16:43     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Office Amy at Churchill was an asset to the community. She was a Churchill grad this very vested in the school. I had many many opportunities to see her in action with the kids. She knew them all. She sought out the lonely and alone and was able to intervene with kids before things got bad because she knew them so well. I cannot speak for other SROs.


It was the same for most SROs in most HSs - they were an asset, and the Principals agree. I stand by my earlier statement: a vocal minority got rid of the SROs to the detromwnt of all


Yes, a vocal minority of right-wing authoritarians want SROs back in school. Everybody else who has been paying attention to the news these past 30 years knows better.


Slightly off-topic, but this attitude is why Dems are going to get slaughtered in mid-terms.

Whenever moderate people bring up a topic or perspective that does not align with the party-line, it gets dismissed as a non-issue, or as a plant by Russian trolls, or a red-herring from Republicans.

I'm telling you; there is a HUGE contingent of voters that care more about things like school closures, inflation, children safety, protecting Title IX, etc than the rest of the social-media liberal trends.

But the minute we voice it, its gets dismissed outright by the party gate-keepers.

I've never voted Republican in my whole life. But I'm honestly not sure what I'm going to do in November


Probably because they did a terrible job with covid, worse than Trump and what he did was terrible, all the violence, inflation, etc...none of the politicians care about people, just votes.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 12:50     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've never voted Republican in my whole life. But I'm honestly not sure what I'm going to do in November


If you vote Republican, it will lead to:
Authoritarian rule
Tossing in jail/investigations of anyone they disagree with (Benghazi anyone? And they've already threatened the Jan 6th committee that are laying out the facts of Trump's collusion)
Setting civil rights back centuries (not to mention LGBTQ+ rights)
Saying goodbye to women's rights (they want women home raising children - abortion is already about to go, next is birth control)
Ignoring voters - they've already lined up people in many states to ignore the votes and put electors in place that they want

And so much more. Our democracy is more important that any of the crap about SROs, and a GOP vote shows your ignorance


Womens' right and gun control are the reason I'll likely continue to vote blue at the federal level.

But I think you're wrong about the authoritarian rule. After living through Covid in MoCo, I think the left is a little too comfortable giving in to authority. So, at the local and state level, I'll likely be voting R
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 10:33     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:I've never voted Republican in my whole life. But I'm honestly not sure what I'm going to do in November


If you vote Republican, it will lead to:
Authoritarian rule
Tossing in jail/investigations of anyone they disagree with (Benghazi anyone? And they've already threatened the Jan 6th committee that are laying out the facts of Trump's collusion)
Setting civil rights back centuries (not to mention LGBTQ+ rights)
Saying goodbye to women's rights (they want women home raising children - abortion is already about to go, next is birth control)
Ignoring voters - they've already lined up people in many states to ignore the votes and put electors in place that they want

And so much more. Our democracy is more important that any of the crap about SROs, and a GOP vote shows your ignorance
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 09:51     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Office Amy at Churchill was an asset to the community. She was a Churchill grad this very vested in the school. I had many many opportunities to see her in action with the kids. She knew them all. She sought out the lonely and alone and was able to intervene with kids before things got bad because she knew them so well. I cannot speak for other SROs.


It was the same for most SROs in most HSs - they were an asset, and the Principals agree. I stand by my earlier statement: a vocal minority got rid of the SROs to the detromwnt of all


Yes, a vocal minority of right-wing authoritarians want SROs back in school. Everybody else who has been paying attention to the news these past 30 years knows better.


Slightly off-topic, but this attitude is why Dems are going to get slaughtered in mid-terms.

Whenever moderate people bring up a topic or perspective that does not align with the party-line, it gets dismissed as a non-issue, or as a plant by Russian trolls, or a red-herring from Republicans.

I'm telling you; there is a HUGE contingent of voters that care more about things like school closures, inflation, children safety, protecting Title IX, etc than the rest of the social-media liberal trends.

But the minute we voice it, its gets dismissed outright by the party gate-keepers.

I've never voted Republican in my whole life. But I'm honestly not sure what I'm going to do in November
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 09:27     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have an SRO at my school…only one person…but I support someone being armed in my building

What do you expect them to do with a pistol v high capacity assault rifle?


It only takes on good shot to kill someone.


Or one bad to miss and hit a child, which is the most likely outcome.


What is your solution? MCPS cannot do a state, county or federal gun ban so that's not even an option. You don't want police, security, SRO's or metal detectors so there is nothing that MCPS can do given nothing will please you. I'd like several armed police at every school.

Let's just put fully armed national guardsmen in schools.


That is not what the guardian do, that’s what police do. What is your real life solution that can be implemented?

Sorry - there's no easy solution short of removing most guns from Americans' hands, and that's not happening. Any other "solution" can be too easily defeated.

Can't get a gun into a building? Plenty of opportunity before school, after school, or recess/PE. Or call in a bomb threat and the kids to come out to you.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 22:11     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have an SRO at my school…only one person…but I support someone being armed in my building

What do you expect them to do with a pistol v high capacity assault rifle?


It only takes on good shot to kill someone.


Or one bad to miss and hit a child, which is the most likely outcome.


What is your solution? MCPS cannot do a state, county or federal gun ban so that's not even an option. You don't want police, security, SRO's or metal detectors so there is nothing that MCPS can do given nothing will please you. I'd like several armed police at every school.

Let's just put fully armed national guardsmen in schools.


That is not what the guardian do, that’s what police do. What is your real life solution that can be implemented?
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 21:31     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have an SRO at my school…only one person…but I support someone being armed in my building

What do you expect them to do with a pistol v high capacity assault rifle?


It only takes on good shot to kill someone.


Or one bad to miss and hit a child, which is the most likely outcome.


What is your solution? MCPS cannot do a state, county or federal gun ban so that's not even an option. You don't want police, security, SRO's or metal detectors so there is nothing that MCPS can do given nothing will please you. I'd like several armed police at every school.

Let's just put fully armed national guardsmen in schools.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 18:41     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have an SRO at my school…only one person…but I support someone being armed in my building

What do you expect them to do with a pistol v high capacity assault rifle?


It only takes on good shot to kill someone.


Or one bad to miss and hit a child, which is the most likely outcome.


What is your solution? MCPS cannot do a state, county or federal gun ban so that's not even an option. You don't want police, security, SRO's or metal detectors so there is nothing that MCPS can do given nothing will please you. I'd like several armed police at every school.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 15:38     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have an SRO at my school…only one person…but I support someone being armed in my building

What do you expect them to do with a pistol v high capacity assault rifle?


It only takes on good shot to kill someone.


Or one bad to miss and hit a child, which is the most likely outcome.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 11:57     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Office Amy at Churchill was an asset to the community. She was a Churchill grad this very vested in the school. I had many many opportunities to see her in action with the kids. She knew them all. She sought out the lonely and alone and was able to intervene with kids before things got bad because she knew them so well. I cannot speak for other SROs.


It was the same for most SROs in most HSs - they were an asset, and the Principals agree. I stand by my earlier statement: a vocal minority got rid of the SROs to the detromwnt of all


Yes, a vocal minority of right-wing authoritarians want SROs back in school. Everybody else who has been paying attention to the news these past 30 years knows better.


Take a look at the PGCPS data posted above, which negates your comment.

I am not remotely a right-wing authoritarian. I’m a concerned parent who wants every possible measure in place.


DP here. Just ignore the anti-SRO poster who keeps saying anything to promote their agenda. No matter what data and facts we show them, they will say whatever non-sensical thing they can to sacrifice the safety of schools in order to defend criminals and offenders. They should just be called pro-criminals at this point.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2022 10:56     Subject: For everyone insisting MCPS reinstate SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Office Amy at Churchill was an asset to the community. She was a Churchill grad this very vested in the school. I had many many opportunities to see her in action with the kids. She knew them all. She sought out the lonely and alone and was able to intervene with kids before things got bad because she knew them so well. I cannot speak for other SROs.


It was the same for most SROs in most HSs - they were an asset, and the Principals agree. I stand by my earlier statement: a vocal minority got rid of the SROs to the detromwnt of all


Yes, a vocal minority of right-wing authoritarians want SROs back in school. Everybody else who has been paying attention to the news these past 30 years knows better.


Take a look at the PGCPS data posted above, which negates your comment.

I am not remotely a right-wing authoritarian. I’m a concerned parent who wants every possible measure in place.