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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.

I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?

An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs

Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?

1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.

It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.

So many security breaches.

Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school

As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.

Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out

Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?

The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.

No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.

Yes because no one can climb a fence. I'm all for adding fencing around schools but that's not going to solve this problem alone.

It takes time to climb

There was a perimeter fence. The shooter was trapped in the classroom. The cops were just waiting until he ran out of targets.

You are disgusting. I hope you never need the help of law enforcement.

DP. Based on their performance here I agree with you.

Good. Please put your money where your mouth is and never call 911. I don’t want my tax dollars wasted nor the safety of our first responders threatened. You’re the expert, you can handle it right?

Quite sure better than the Uvulve cops

Great! Since you love the children so much and are highly competent in these situations, I assume you are signing up for the police force? What, your digital marketing job is more important? Ok…

Better. I'm a teacher so basically a cop already according to Republicans

What is the safety protocol at your school?

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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.

I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?

An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs

Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?

1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.

It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.

So many security breaches.

Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school

As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.

Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out

Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?

The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.

No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.

Yes because no one can climb a fence. I'm all for adding fencing around schools but that's not going to solve this problem alone.

It takes time to climb

There was a perimeter fence. The shooter was trapped in the classroom. The cops were just waiting until he ran out of targets.

If there was a perimeter fence and locked doors, how did the shooter get in? Shoot out a lock?

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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.

I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?

An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs

Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?

1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.

It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.

So many security breaches.

Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school

As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.

Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out

Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?

The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.

No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.

Yes because no one can climb a fence. I'm all for adding fencing around schools but that's not going to solve this problem alone.

It takes time to climb

There was a perimeter fence. The shooter was trapped in the classroom. The cops were just waiting until he ran out of targets.

You are disgusting. I hope you never need the help of law enforcement.

DP. Based on their performance here I agree with you.

Good. Please put your money where your mouth is and never call 911. I don’t want my tax dollars wasted nor the safety of our first responders threatened. You’re the expert, you can handle it right?

Quite sure better than the Uvulve cops

Great! Since you love the children so much and are highly competent in these situations, I assume you are signing up for the police force? What, your digital marketing job is more important? Ok…

Better. I'm a teacher so basically a cop already according to Republicans

Unlike the Uvulve Police the Uvulve teachers put themselves in the line of fire and died protecting the children. They did more than the fully armed and massed cops.

The teachers were placed in the line of fire, which should have never happened in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how many of you seem to know exactly what happened when it is clear everyone on the ground is still gathering the facts. Your biases are showing. Literally not one of you knows what happened and yet you’re so quick to judge. The fact that you have already judged law enforcement to be at fault without an understanding of what actually happened shows how clueless you all are. You’re just as bad as the open carry gun nuts who walk around waiting for their chance to be a “hero.”

The fact that there were police outside setting a perimeter and keeping civilians from running inside does not mean there were not already officers inside addressing the situation.

We know a lot. We know the initial police stories were all lies. We can see in the videos that a bunch of local cops were doing nothing. Just standing around in their expensive gear looking like they've never had any training for responding to a shooter.

And yet, you have no idea when that footage was taken or what was going on inside the school at that time. You have no idea how many officers who were already there addressing the threat. You have no idea what information those officers had. Just wait until the facts come out, it’s really not that hard for reasonable people.

You can hear gunshots in the videos

And?

That tells us when it was taken and what the cops were doing at the time.

Do you think those officers are the only officers in the world? Could it be possible - gasp - that there were already officers inside addressing the situation? And you still don’t know when it was taken. During the beginning? During the end when everyone in the room had already been shot? Was it the officers firing? You DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED YET. The fact that you have not even considered other contingencies makes it abundantly clear you have no tactical training or situational awareness.

There were officers pulling kids out of windows. We do know that.

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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.

I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?

An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs

Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?

1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.

It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.

So many security breaches.

Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school

As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.

Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out

Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?

The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.

No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.

Yes because no one can climb a fence. I'm all for adding fencing around schools but that's not going to solve this problem alone.

It takes time to climb

You know a pickup can drive through a chain length fence quite easily right?

That’s a pretty high level alert, don’t you think? Again, it’s a deterrent. You make things more difficult for the gunman to get inside in the first place. That gives a resource officer on premise time to get to the scene. Even a sign stating there are people armed and ready to defend inside the school is a huge deterrent. The goal of these nuts is to get inside and kill and make a name for themselves before they themselves die. When they can’t do that, they don’t go into that school. They search for an easier target.

Firm information now:

1) No armed resource officer at the school
2) Shooter walked in through an unlocked door.

Those are both massive changes in the earlier narrative. So all the ‘good guy with a gun’ statements can be thrown in the trash, because there was none.

Sadly, by the time the first officer got there, those kids were probably already shot. Why it took 12 minutes to respond to the first call is definitely something I want to know. That’s a LOT of time! That no officer went in, I find disturbing. Police lacked leve 4 ballistic shields (i.e. needed gear) when they got there, which is also disturbing. That gives the shooter an advanced position. The border agent did have a shield.

strange coincidence?

Anonymous wrote:I second a UN investigation.

American LE are completely out of control.

They are efficient at hunting and killing unarmed black people.

I second a UN investigation.

American LE are completely out of control.

Texas Lawmen in Cowboy Hats sure have some ‘splaining to do. Guessing some are a-gonna be potentially prosecuted for criminal negligence. I call for a full federal and UN investigation. But really, the videos seem to speak for themselves. Why does anyone vote Republican?

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how many of you seem to know exactly what happened when it is clear everyone on the ground is still gathering the facts. Your biases are showing. Literally not one of you knows what happened and yet you’re so quick to judge. The fact that you have already judged law enforcement to be at fault without an understanding of what actually happened shows how clueless you all are. You’re just as bad as the open carry gun nuts who walk around waiting for their chance to be a “hero.”

The fact that there were police outside setting a perimeter and keeping civilians from running inside does not mean there were not already officers inside addressing the situation.

We know a lot. We know the initial police stories were all lies. We can see in the videos that a bunch of local cops were doing nothing. Just standing around in their expensive gear looking like they've never had any training for responding to a shooter.

And yet, you have no idea when that footage was taken or what was going on inside the school at that time. You have no idea how many officers who were already there addressing the threat. You have no idea what information those officers had. Just wait until the facts come out, it’s really not that hard for reasonable people.

Just stop. The gunman was in the school for an hour and the local police did nothing. Some federal officers showed up after an hour in and immediately engaged and ended it.

Link?

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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.

I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?

An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs

Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?

1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.

It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.

So many security breaches.

Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school

As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.

Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out

Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?

The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.

No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.

Yes because no one can climb a fence. I'm all for adding fencing around schools but that's not going to solve this problem alone.

It takes time to climb

There was a perimeter fence. The shooter was trapped in the classroom. The cops were just waiting until he ran out of targets.

You are disgusting. I hope you never need the help of law enforcement.

DP. Based on their performance here I agree with you.

Good. Please put your money where your mouth is and never call 911. I don’t want my tax dollars wasted nor the safety of our first responders threatened. You’re the expert, you can handle it right?

Quite sure better than the Uvulve cops

Great! Since you love the children so much and are highly competent in these situations, I assume you are signing up for the police force? What, your digital marketing job is more important? Ok…

They sacrificed those babies to save their own scared asses. Yeah. Back the blue.

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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.

I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?

An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs

Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?

1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.

It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.

So many security breaches.

Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school

As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.

Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out

Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?

The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.

No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.

Yes because no one can climb a fence. I'm all for adding fencing around schools but that's not going to solve this problem alone.

It takes time to climb

There was a perimeter fence. The shooter was trapped in the classroom. The cops were just waiting until he ran out of targets.

You are disgusting. I hope you never need the help of law enforcement.

DP. Based on their performance here I agree with you.

Good. Please put your money where your mouth is and never call 911. I don’t want my tax dollars wasted nor the safety of our first responders threatened. You’re the expert, you can handle it right?

Quite sure better than the Uvulve cops

Great! Since you love the children so much and are highly competent in these situations, I assume you are signing up for the police force? What, your digital marketing job is more important? Ok…

Better. I'm a teacher so basically a cop already according to Republicans

Even better! I guess Republicans were right, our teachers are perfectly equipped to handle these situations, no problem! No need for police when we have you.

But they are not equipped to teach your kids about history or choose books for their classrooms. There you need to have the parents make the decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:“They contained him in a classroom”

That’s a fun way of saying they let him lock himself in a classroom to slaughter 10 year olds unencumbered

You are exactly what is wrong with America. No interest in facts, just jump to disgusting conclusions based on your extremist political views. You should be ashamed of yourselves. If you really think a bunch of police present at the scene willingly watched him kill innocent people for fun you should deport yourself.

Yes not wanting fourth graders murdered at school is v ~extreme~

No one wants children to be killed. You are extreme for jumping to grotesque conclusions before the facts are known.

The GOP is blocking all gun reform. All of it. The GOP absolutely wants children to be killed. What’s grotesque is that people are still pretending otherwise.

You are absolutely correct. Now what does that have to do with law enforcement’s response?

Because as they block gun reform they push the narrative of “good guys with guns” to support their unwillingness to do something. As evidenced by LE’s response, the good guys with guns were not able to stop the shooter from killing. The connection is very clear.

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There were no police in the building … the cops were trying to negotiate with him for an hour.

I'm trying to understand the logistics here. How were they negotiating with him? Yelling from outside the building to inside the building? Did they have phone communication with him?

An hour this went on. Do you know how many kids he killed in under 10 minutes?. They needed to get in there and take him out and if they didn't have the balls to do it they should have at least let the parents in to do their jobs

Did he go classroom to classroom or stay in one classroom?

1 classroom. All 19 kids and 2 teachers were from the same class.

It was two adjoining classrooms with a door between. Per a clip of a surviving child recounting the experience.

So many security breaches.

Yep, totally the fault of those teachers and students in school

As Gilliam said, 90% of the schools who hired him to consult did not implement any of his recommendations, citing it would make the kids feel scared, like a prison, etc. So they planted gardens, etc. instead. The only person at fault is the gunman. We can’t keep pretending there is no evil or crazy. This kid screamed it from the rooftops for years and was still dismissed. He decided to get attention in the worst possible way.

Because teaching kids in small prisons is not developmentally appropriate. Republicans just want a privatize schools like they did prisons and we see how all that's working out

Dead kids can’t learn either. Do you lock your own doors and windows? Why or why not? Do you have a fence around your property? Why or why not?

The people who are urging us to barricade all of the schools to stop a few shootings overlap quite a bit with the people who fought masks and vaccinations because we can't live in fear and have to live our lives. I'm getting whiplash.

No one used the term barricade. Simple locks and perimeter fencing help tons.

Yes because no one can climb a fence. I'm all for adding fencing around schools but that's not going to solve this problem alone.

It takes time to climb

There was a perimeter fence. The shooter was trapped in the classroom. The cops were just waiting until he ran out of targets.

You are disgusting. I hope you never need the help of law enforcement.

DP. Based on their performance here I agree with you.

Good. Please put your money where your mouth is and never call 911. I don’t want my tax dollars wasted nor the safety of our first responders threatened. You’re the expert, you can handle it right?

Quite sure better than the Uvulve cops

Great! Since you love the children so much and are highly competent in these situations, I assume you are signing up for the police force? What, your digital marketing job is more important? Ok…

Better. I'm a teacher so basically a cop already according to Republicans

Unlike the Uvulve Police the Uvulve teachers put themselves in the line of fire and died protecting the children. They did more than the fully armed and massed cops.

Unarmed teachers did far more than heavily armed and probably better paid cops. Disgusting.