Anonymous
04/07/2022 13:31
Subject: Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My 17yo was on a school trip earlier this week that included freshman-seniors. Obviously they were all in hotel rooms without adults (the chaperones were in their own rooms). So by the logic of many of you, were all of these teens in horrible danger because the housekeepers and mangers had keys to open their rooms in the middle of the night? I mean, if anything groups like this are MORE at risk because it's pretty obvious there isn't the same kind of adult supervision happening like there would be if they were there with their parents. And yet trips like these happen all the time and kids survive them.
In answer to the question asked, I would say somewhere between 12-14, depending on the kid's maturity, comfort with the idea (I would never leave without them knowing ahead of time), and your trust in their ability to handle themselves in a room on their own.
Bingo. But, I bet many of these folks would not let their child go on that sort of trip.
Exactly. Think of all the things that could go wrong.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 13:18
Subject: Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
Anonymous wrote:My 17yo was on a school trip earlier this week that included freshman-seniors. Obviously they were all in hotel rooms without adults (the chaperones were in their own rooms). So by the logic of many of you, were all of these teens in horrible danger because the housekeepers and mangers had keys to open their rooms in the middle of the night? I mean, if anything groups like this are MORE at risk because it's pretty obvious there isn't the same kind of adult supervision happening like there would be if they were there with their parents. And yet trips like these happen all the time and kids survive them.
In answer to the question asked, I would say somewhere between 12-14, depending on the kid's maturity, comfort with the idea (I would never leave without them knowing ahead of time), and your trust in their ability to handle themselves in a room on their own.
Bingo. But, I bet many of these folks would not let their child go on that sort of trip.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 13:15
Subject: Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
My 17yo was on a school trip earlier this week that included freshman-seniors. Obviously they were all in hotel rooms without adults (the chaperones were in their own rooms). So by the logic of many of you, were all of these teens in horrible danger because the housekeepers and mangers had keys to open their rooms in the middle of the night? I mean, if anything groups like this are MORE at risk because it's pretty obvious there isn't the same kind of adult supervision happening like there would be if they were there with their parents. And yet trips like these happen all the time and kids survive them.
In answer to the question asked, I would say somewhere between 12-14, depending on the kid's maturity, comfort with the idea (I would never leave without them knowing ahead of time), and your trust in their ability to handle themselves in a room on their own.
In answer to the question asked, I would say somewhere between 12-14, depending on the kid's maturity, comfort with the idea (I would never leave without them knowing ahead of time), and your trust in their ability to handle themselves in a room on their own.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 13:03
Subject: Re:Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
This is simple. Have a drink in the room or if allowed have child come down and have a beverage with parent at a table or one of the seats in lobby if it’s cozy.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 13:00
Subject: Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
Anonymous wrote:We set our parents kitchen on fire when left alone at 11 & 14. Thankfully it was a small one and we managed to clean it up and air out house. Told mom I was burning paper - she didn’t love that but accepted explanation. Latch key kids can finesse a lot. We’d most likely have behaved better in a hotel, but def would have left the room to explore hotel first second folks were off the floor. Prob would have found them in the bar as a final joke. Pre iPads though…imagine it’s different now.
Exactly right and of most kids. Sibling set woods on fire behind house at 15 or 16. Lots of other stories and one sibling was walking home from school and man asked him to help find puppy while older brother was walking ahead always.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 12:57
Subject: Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
Is child alone? Or are there siblings?
Is child mature and responsible? Or is child naive?
I think I would leave a solo child alone in a hotel room at age 11+ if they are mature, or 12+ otherwise.
For younger siblings, that age goes down a lot. For instance, I have a high school senior so she watches our younger child all the time. I think I would trust her with a child as young as 2 years old.
(She is old enough to be a teen mom so I guess I should trust her with a newborn but I wouldn't.)
I don't have a 2 year old so that is irrelevant. I do have a 10 year old crazy rambunctious child that is even more difficult than a 2 year old though and I trust her alone with that 10 year old.
Is child mature and responsible? Or is child naive?
I think I would leave a solo child alone in a hotel room at age 11+ if they are mature, or 12+ otherwise.
For younger siblings, that age goes down a lot. For instance, I have a high school senior so she watches our younger child all the time. I think I would trust her with a child as young as 2 years old.
(She is old enough to be a teen mom so I guess I should trust her with a newborn but I wouldn't.)
I don't have a 2 year old so that is irrelevant. I do have a 10 year old crazy rambunctious child that is even more difficult than a 2 year old though and I trust her alone with that 10 year old.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 12:56
Subject: Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look up Madeline McCann. Then ask yourself again if this is a good idea.
McCann was 3 and is world famous because this scenario is so uncommon to be bizarre beyond belief.
Exactly. White yuppies are so convinced that there are traffickers lurking around every corner waiting to swoop in and kidnap their blonde angels. The actual likelihood of that happening is SO rare. It is why we all know the Madeline McCann story. It is an anomaly.
Please check the data. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wisconsin-missinggirl-data/kidnapped-children-make-headlines-but-abduction-is-rare-in-u-s-idUSKCN1P52BJ
Most "kidnappings" are situations where child is abducted by a non custodial parent and its a divorce/separation drama, You've all been gaslit by QAnon crap that has become mainstream now on the trafficking front. Is trafficking real and a problem? Yes. But the movie Taken isn't about to happen to your kid.
How about instead of all your nonsense, the parent can have a drink in the room. There, solved it for you!
Anonymous
04/07/2022 12:54
Subject: Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
Anonymous wrote:We set our parents kitchen on fire when left alone at 11 & 14. Thankfully it was a small one and we managed to clean it up and air out house. Told mom I was burning paper - she didn’t love that but accepted explanation. Latch key kids can finesse a lot. We’d most likely have behaved better in a hotel, but def would have left the room to explore hotel first second folks were off the floor. Prob would have found them in the bar as a final joke. Pre iPads though…imagine it’s different now.
We’d have made a scene too. As a prank.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 12:54
Subject: Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
We set our parents kitchen on fire when left alone at 11 & 14. Thankfully it was a small one and we managed to clean it up and air out house. Told mom I was burning paper - she didn’t love that but accepted explanation. Latch key kids can finesse a lot. We’d most likely have behaved better in a hotel, but def would have left the room to explore hotel first second folks were off the floor. Prob would have found them in the bar as a final joke. Pre iPads though…imagine it’s different now.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 12:53
Subject: Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look up Madeline McCann. Then ask yourself again if this is a good idea.
McCann was 3 and is world famous because this scenario is so uncommon to be bizarre beyond belief.
Exactly. White yuppies are so convinced that there are traffickers lurking around every corner waiting to swoop in and kidnap their blonde angels. The actual likelihood of that happening is SO rare. It is why we all know the Madeline McCann story. It is an anomaly.
Please check the data. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wisconsin-missinggirl-data/kidnapped-children-make-headlines-but-abduction-is-rare-in-u-s-idUSKCN1P52BJ
Most "kidnappings" are situations where child is abducted by a non custodial parent and its a divorce/separation drama, You've all been gaslit by QAnon crap that has become mainstream now on the trafficking front. Is trafficking real and a problem? Yes. But the movie Taken isn't about to happen to your kid.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 12:51
Subject: Re:Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh, everyone has an anecdotal story.
About having some independence as a young teen, absolutely they do! About an attempted kidnapping from a hotel room as a 12 year old whose parent was in the lobby, you’re right; no one does.
Maybe they're more concerned their kid won't behave appropriately when left alone, so it's easier to blame the remote possibility of stranger danger.
If you think kids don’t misbehave, you’ve got another thing coming.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 12:49
Subject: Re:Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh, everyone has an anecdotal story.
About having some independence as a young teen, absolutely they do! About an attempted kidnapping from a hotel room as a 12 year old whose parent was in the lobby, you’re right; no one does.
Maybe they're more concerned their kid won't behave appropriately when left alone, so it's easier to blame the remote possibility of stranger danger.
Maybe you shouldn’t be so naive with your perfect angel kids.
Except I never said that, but go off. I can admit when my kids aren't responsible enough to handle something, but plenty of people cannot.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 12:49
Subject: Re:Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh, everyone has an anecdotal story.
About having some independence as a young teen, absolutely they do! About an attempted kidnapping from a hotel room as a 12 year old whose parent was in the lobby, you’re right; no one does.
Maybe they're more concerned their kid won't behave appropriately when left alone, so it's easier to blame the remote possibility of stranger danger.
Wow, your kids are perfect and the rest of us are failures when our kids act like kids.
Anonymous
04/07/2022 12:47
Subject: Re:Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
I’d leave a teen alone in a hotel room. Did you guys never go on trips as teenagers and sleep in hotel rooms without adults?
Anonymous
04/07/2022 12:47
Subject: Re:Age to leave child alone sleeping in hotel room to go downstairs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh, everyone has an anecdotal story.
About having some independence as a young teen, absolutely they do! About an attempted kidnapping from a hotel room as a 12 year old whose parent was in the lobby, you’re right; no one does.
Maybe they're more concerned their kid won't behave appropriately when left alone, so it's easier to blame the remote possibility of stranger danger.
Maybe you shouldn’t be so naive with your perfect angel kids.
Well, which is it? Her kids aren’t perfect angels so she shouldn’t leave them alone? Or her kids will be kidnapped so she shouldn’t leave them alone?