Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 21:13     Subject: Re:War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


This is the real problem. The US doesn’t have the munitions and air defense to fight a modern war. We used up so much of our capabilities in this very peripheral war of choice. Now we can’t do anything for at least a couple of years as we need to replenish. And our allies won’t be getting anything they paid for in the meantime. Which means they will go elsewhere for their defense needs.

We really crippled ourselves with this war. Which begs the question what the hell are we spending more than a trillion a year on? War has changed. But Trump and Hegseth seem stuck in the 90s and never adapted to new realities. And now Iran gets to set the terms because we don’t have the capabilities to fight a modern war.


We had the munitions but the plan was for a 60 day war. The US is like a bodybuilder trying to run a marathon. If China, N Korea, Iran and Russia had coordinated we would be screwed.

We really have to ask about military planning and seeing future threats. Who was responsible for that? Had they ever heard of Russia - Ukraine war? Russia lost over 12,000 tanks and their aircraft can no enter Ukraine airspace. These are the same tanks and aircraft US planers were so worried about.

US weapons system are too expensive and can not function in a war time environment. The weapon systems, tanks, aircraft, ships, etc need too much expensive maintenance, can not be replaced in a timely manner(5-7 year for a ship) and munitions replacement rates are like 10-100 a month.

Next time we go to war we will not have bases in Europe.


Yep. This. Dems should be calling for hearings on this issue. Why do we spend so much money on our military and foreign wars? What have we gotten in return. Would that money have been better spent on healthcare? Preschool? 🤔

Right now all I see since Bush II’s presidency are wasted billions. Where is the outrage?
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 21:07     Subject: War with Iran Part II
And... we're back to threats.

The cycle of:
1) Threats
2) Lies of an imminent peace deal
3) Positive media coverage for that
4) Evidence of no deal, and nowhere close to Iran making concessions
5) Pretending not to care about a deal he transparently wants
6) Threats

Took about three days this time
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 20:33     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a reason other US presidents hadn't attacked iran.

That is also why the JCPOA was so effective and frankly, it was giving moderates more power in Iran.

Trump was nothing but a gift to Iran, Israel and Russia on this issue.


The Iranians agreed to the JCPOA because they had no intention of building a nuclear weapon. We have been lied to by our intelligence, politicians and media for years. If Iran wanted a bomb they could have made one pretty easily over the last 30 years. 60 to 90 is the easy part.

I don’t think they need one now. They can shut down the strait at anytime or remove 20% of the world’s oil production for 5-7 years. Iran is untouchable going forward. Time to forget about anything like to JCPOA.


Also time for the country to take renewable energy seriously so as to never be harmed by turmoil in the middle east again. Somehow Europe and China managed to move in this direction without lobbyists and billionaires detracting the move.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 20:32     Subject: Re:War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


This is the real problem. The US doesn’t have the munitions and air defense to fight a modern war. We used up so much of our capabilities in this very peripheral war of choice. Now we can’t do anything for at least a couple of years as we need to replenish. And our allies won’t be getting anything they paid for in the meantime. Which means they will go elsewhere for their defense needs.

We really crippled ourselves with this war. Which begs the question what the hell are we spending more than a trillion a year on? War has changed. But Trump and Hegseth seem stuck in the 90s and never adapted to new realities. And now Iran gets to set the terms because we don’t have the capabilities to fight a modern war.


We had the munitions but the plan was for a 60 day war. The US is like a bodybuilder trying to run a marathon. If China, N Korea, Iran and Russia had coordinated we would be screwed.

We really have to ask about military planning and seeing future threats. Who was responsible for that? Had they ever heard of Russia - Ukraine war? Russia lost over 12,000 tanks and their aircraft can no enter Ukraine airspace. These are the same tanks and aircraft US planers were so worried about.

US weapons system are too expensive and can not function in a war time environment. The weapon systems, tanks, aircraft, ships, etc need too much expensive maintenance, can not be replaced in a timely manner(5-7 year for a ship) and munitions replacement rates are like 10-100 a month.

Next time we go to war we will not have bases in Europe.


There is no world where a 60 day war was realistic and I am pretty confident there were not any military advisors with the country's best interest at heart would would have supported that conclusion.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 20:29     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:There is a reason other US presidents hadn't attacked iran.

That is also why the JCPOA was so effective and frankly, it was giving moderates more power in Iran.

Trump was nothing but a gift to Iran, Israel and Russia on this issue.


The Iranians agreed to the JCPOA because they had no intention of building a nuclear weapon. We have been lied to by our intelligence, politicians and media for years. If Iran wanted a bomb they could have made one pretty easily over the last 30 years. 60 to 90 is the easy part.

I don’t think they need one now. They can shut down the strait at anytime or remove 20% of the world’s oil production for 5-7 years. Iran is untouchable going forward. Time to forget about anything like to JCPOA.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 20:23     Subject: Re:War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


This is the real problem. The US doesn’t have the munitions and air defense to fight a modern war. We used up so much of our capabilities in this very peripheral war of choice. Now we can’t do anything for at least a couple of years as we need to replenish. And our allies won’t be getting anything they paid for in the meantime. Which means they will go elsewhere for their defense needs.

We really crippled ourselves with this war. Which begs the question what the hell are we spending more than a trillion a year on? War has changed. But Trump and Hegseth seem stuck in the 90s and never adapted to new realities. And now Iran gets to set the terms because we don’t have the capabilities to fight a modern war.


We had the munitions but the plan was for a 60 day war. The US is like a bodybuilder trying to run a marathon. If China, N Korea, Iran and Russia had coordinated we would be screwed.

We really have to ask about military planning and seeing future threats. Who was responsible for that? Had they ever heard of Russia - Ukraine war? Russia lost over 12,000 tanks and their aircraft can no enter Ukraine airspace. These are the same tanks and aircraft US planers were so worried about.

US weapons system are too expensive and can not function in a war time environment. The weapon systems, tanks, aircraft, ships, etc need too much expensive maintenance, can not be replaced in a timely manner(5-7 year for a ship) and munitions replacement rates are like 10-100 a month.

Next time we go to war we will not have bases in Europe.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 20:16     Subject: War with Iran Part II
There is a reason other US presidents hadn't attacked iran.

That is also why the JCPOA was so effective and frankly, it was giving moderates more power in Iran.

Trump was nothing but a gift to Iran, Israel and Russia on this issue.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 20:10     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Sadly the US does not have the upper hand in this Iran matter. The Iranians do, with their very daring and risky seizure of the Strait. It was a desperate, last-resort maneuver, and they've made it work in their favor.

From a war gaming point of view, I give credit where credit is due.

Trump is a loser all the way. He was never cognitively competent enough for a second term and the intricacies of policy and military strategy, and probably not even a first one.




Iran’s controls of the strait was not a daring and risky seizure. The Iranians had a plan that took 35 years to implement. They executed the plan when they were attacked by Trump and Bibi. Israel has been screaming about destroying Iran for 40 years now. The Iranians saw what the US military’s capabilities were planned accordingly. The Iranians have clearly outperformed the US militarily in terms of planning, operations, strategic and tactical thinking. I would hate to see how many casualties we would have taken with a ground war. How can the US be so unprepared for drone warfare?

Lucky we did not go up against the Chinese around Taiwan. The Chinese can produce a 1,000 cruise missile engines a day. These have a range of up to 4,000 km. We would have lost a lot of capital ships.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 19:13     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Sadly the US does not have the upper hand in this Iran matter. The Iranians do, with their very daring and risky seizure of the Strait. It was a desperate, last-resort maneuver, and they've made it work in their favor.

From a war gaming point of view, I give credit where credit is due.

Trump is a loser all the way. He was never cognitively competent enough for a second term and the intricacies of policy and military strategy, and probably not even a first one.




Even the republicans know that Iran won.

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-897082
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 19:05     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:I long to see trump humiliated so the entire world is rolling on the floor laughing at him.


That time is now.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 17:07     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Sadly the US does not have the upper hand in this Iran matter. The Iranians do, with their very daring and risky seizure of the Strait. It was a desperate, last-resort maneuver, and they've made it work in their favor.

From a war gaming point of view, I give credit where credit is due.

Trump is a loser all the way. He was never cognitively competent enough for a second term and the intricacies of policy and military strategy, and probably not even a first one.




To be fair, Trump also sold out our allies in Afghanistan and ceded the country to the Taliban, so his record on these matters are not exactly aligned with US interests.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 16:56     Subject: War with Iran Part II
I long to see trump humiliated so the entire world is rolling on the floor laughing at him.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 16:00     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NYT reporting that a proposed Trump-backed memorandum with Iran would reportedly release $25 billion in frozen Iranian assets.

So Obama released $1.6B in iranian interest to get the JCPOA done and Trump is apparently going to pay Iran $25B to open the Straits of Hormouz, which were already open before the war.

Art of the deal, right?


No. Trump did it so it is okay. What Obama was unforgivable. Guess Bibi flew too close to Trump and got burnt. How the hell will Bibi survive this? Lebanon is a shit show with all those drones.

Could you elaborate. I thought Israel had taken over the southern region of Lebanon and forced the Lebanese out of their homes. Who’s using drones?


Google drone attacks IDF. It’s the same type of videos that come out of Ukraine. IDF vehicles, com systems, bases, etc under attack. Some of the videos show IDF soldiers running from drones. The IDF like the US military are totally unprepared. It’s all over the Hebrew news cast and papers in Israel. This type of attritional warfare does not favor the IDF just like it did not favor the Russians or US military.

This was very predictable. It will only get worst as the drone and AI improve.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 15:28     Subject: War with Iran Part II
Anonymous wrote:
Sadly the US does not have the upper hand in this Iran matter. The Iranians do, with their very daring and risky seizure of the Strait. It was a desperate, last-resort maneuver, and they've made it work in their favor.

From a war gaming point of view, I give credit where credit is due.

Trump is a loser all the way. He was never cognitively competent enough for a second term and the intricacies of policy and military strategy, and probably not even a first one.




Let us not forget the incompetent yet arrogant Hegseth. The worst combination of traits.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2026 15:25     Subject: War with Iran Part II

Sadly the US does not have the upper hand in this Iran matter. The Iranians do, with their very daring and risky seizure of the Strait. It was a desperate, last-resort maneuver, and they've made it work in their favor.

From a war gaming point of view, I give credit where credit is due.

Trump is a loser all the way. He was never cognitively competent enough for a second term and the intricacies of policy and military strategy, and probably not even a first one.