Anonymous
07/14/2023 19:47
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
I think the actresses on Golden a girls represented this age better than the ladies on this show.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 12:39
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Che also can't act, which only makes her character more grating.
When did Miranda become a bumbling fool?
I think over the course of two decades while stagnating at home in a relationship that was comfortable but not right - and then going on a sort of rumspringa with Che, who is a disaster for Miranda but is also unleashing something in her that feels (to her) authentic and necessary. I think the problem is that usually we understand the powerful attraction that a character has to another character, but they've written Che so weirdly that none of us can imagine feeling that way about them. So it makes Miranda seem crazy, not just like someone who's bursting into something new in later midlife.
I continue to think that Miranda's midlife crisis can be narratively exciting, while we see her make mistakes and also find the person she believes herself to be at this stage of her life. It's just hinging so much of it on an unappealing character that makes this story hard for any of us to get with, I think.
Bingo.
The posts upthread about the intent to have Miranda and Nya together helped crystalize this for me. If they'd stuck with that, we'd see Miranda's sexual discovery being matched with intellectual growth, which would feel so authentic to her character. That would have been so fun to watch. She's clearly the smartest, best educated, and intellectual of the original four.
Instead we're supposed to believe that she's attracted to someone with the maturity of a teenage boy who plays video games with his friends until 4 in the morning. It makes no sense.
I am the PP - and I *think* that the show is introducing Che playing video games all the time and getting high day and night as new info to help Miranda get away from this relationship. When Miranda met Che, it was when they were performing, and seemed confident and successful - and I think we were supposed to understand that she (Miranda) found that incredible alluring. Found the whole package alluring. And now Miranda is getting to know what life with Che actually looks like, and even if Miranda learned a lot about herself through this relationship - I think without Che drastically changing their life, Miranda is going to have to come to the conclusion that this relationship was a turning point but not an end point.
But yeah the show messed up by making Che so freaking annoying.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 12:32
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Che also can't act, which only makes her character more grating.
When did Miranda become a bumbling fool?
I think over the course of two decades while stagnating at home in a relationship that was comfortable but not right - and then going on a sort of rumspringa with Che, who is a disaster for Miranda but is also unleashing something in her that feels (to her) authentic and necessary. I think the problem is that usually we understand the powerful attraction that a character has to another character, but they've written Che so weirdly that none of us can imagine feeling that way about them. So it makes Miranda seem crazy, not just like someone who's bursting into something new in later midlife.
I continue to think that Miranda's midlife crisis can be narratively exciting, while we see her make mistakes and also find the person she believes herself to be at this stage of her life. It's just hinging so much of it on an unappealing character that makes this story hard for any of us to get with, I think.
Bingo.
The posts upthread about the intent to have Miranda and Nya together helped crystalize this for me. If they'd stuck with that, we'd see Miranda's sexual discovery being matched with intellectual growth, which would feel so authentic to her character. That would have been so fun to watch. She's clearly the smartest, best educated, and intellectual of the original four.
Instead we're supposed to believe that she's attracted to someone with the maturity of a teenage boy who plays video games with his friends until 4 in the morning. It makes no sense.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 12:22
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Che also can't act, which only makes her character more grating.
When did Miranda become a bumbling fool?
I think over the course of two decades while stagnating at home in a relationship that was comfortable but not right - and then going on a sort of rumspringa with Che, who is a disaster for Miranda but is also unleashing something in her that feels (to her) authentic and necessary. I think the problem is that usually we understand the powerful attraction that a character has to another character, but they've written Che so weirdly that none of us can imagine feeling that way about them. So it makes Miranda seem crazy, not just like someone who's bursting into something new in later midlife.
I continue to think that Miranda's midlife crisis can be narratively exciting, while we see her make mistakes and also find the person she believes herself to be at this stage of her life. It's just hinging so much of it on an unappealing character that makes this story hard for any of us to get with, I think.
Completely agree.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 10:38
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Anonymous wrote:Che also can't act, which only makes her character more grating.
When did Miranda become a bumbling fool?
I think over the course of two decades while stagnating at home in a relationship that was comfortable but not right - and then going on a sort of rumspringa with Che, who is a disaster for Miranda but is also unleashing something in her that feels (to her) authentic and necessary. I think the problem is that usually we understand the powerful attraction that a character has to another character, but they've written Che so weirdly that none of us can imagine feeling that way about them. So it makes Miranda seem crazy, not just like someone who's bursting into something new in later midlife.
I continue to think that Miranda's midlife crisis can be narratively exciting, while we see her make mistakes and also find the person she believes herself to be at this stage of her life. It's just hinging so much of it on an unappealing character that makes this story hard for any of us to get with, I think.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 10:36
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand Miranda as such a weak, fawning, bumbling mess. She’s supposed to be a Harvard educated lawyer, isn’t she? Her character is unbelievable.
It's Cynthia Nixon's fault. Google the interviews. She said she and Miranda are now alike "in every way." And she said white women need to look at themselves if they have issues with Che. She thinks people are reacting negatively to the new Miranda and to Che because they have issues with LGBTQ characters. And I read that the original plan was for Miranda to get together with Nya, her law professor, which kind of makes more sense and would have allowed for a tighter plot, but Cynthia Nixon insisted on bringing in Sara Ramirez (Che).
AJLT is Cynthia Nixon's vanity project.
Ah. They’re both immature and unlikeable. You’d think an advocate would also insist they be portrayed well. She kind of did a Tony Danza on Che twice then: once for the storyline and once for the whole show.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 09:26
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Che also can't act, which only makes her character more grating.
When did Miranda become a bumbling fool?
When did Miranda become a bumbling fool?
Anonymous
07/14/2023 09:13
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
I really enjoyed this latest episode! It felt like a return to form. Carrie's scenes were great - I really like that Miranda is starting to recognize that maybe she and Che need some distance. (Hopefully permanent!)
Glad for Nya to have some fun. Seema's thing was funny and felt like old SATC.
Charlotte's storyline was fun - Harry as Philip was really funny. I find their relationship really believable and also very sweet!
It was enjoyable!
Che is still terrible. I can't imagine being in my 50s and putting up with what a child they are. I would very much like Miranda and Che to settle into being great friends instead of a couple.
Glad for Nya to have some fun. Seema's thing was funny and felt like old SATC.
Charlotte's storyline was fun - Harry as Philip was really funny. I find their relationship really believable and also very sweet!
It was enjoyable!
Che is still terrible. I can't imagine being in my 50s and putting up with what a child they are. I would very much like Miranda and Che to settle into being great friends instead of a couple.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 08:10
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand Miranda as such a weak, fawning, bumbling mess. She’s supposed to be a Harvard educated lawyer, isn’t she? Her character is unbelievable.
It's Cynthia Nixon's fault. Google the interviews. She said she and Miranda are now alike "in every way." And she said white women need to look at themselves if they have issues with Che. She thinks people are reacting negatively to the new Miranda and to Che because they have issues with LGBTQ characters. And I read that the original plan was for Miranda to get together with Nya, her law professor, which kind of makes more sense and would have allowed for a tighter plot, but Cynthia Nixon insisted on bringing in Sara Ramirez (Che).
AJLT is Cynthia Nixon's vanity project.
I haven't even watched the show, and I'm irritated by the comment "white women need to look at themselves if they have issues with Che." From everything I've read, it's the character and how they are written and the whole Miranda storyline (leaving Steve, not behaving like viewers think the character would, etc.) that makes viewers have issues with Che.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 07:48
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Anonymous wrote:Wasnt it just summer? Now Halloween?
Obviously they are trying to move the passage of time along to remove us further and further from Big’s death, so any antics she gets up to will seem more natural and grief won’t have to be so much of the storyline. They needed Big dead and buried, and they need enough time to go by so they can cross grief goalposts off the list and propel is into the future.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 05:44
Subject: Re:SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
If this is the true Cynthia is unlikable and annoying. Nothing to do with LGBTQ. She cheated on Steve.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 04:09
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand Miranda as such a weak, fawning, bumbling mess. She’s supposed to be a Harvard educated lawyer, isn’t she? Her character is unbelievable.
It's Cynthia Nixon's fault. Google the interviews. She said she and Miranda are now alike "in every way." And she said white women need to look at themselves if they have issues with Che. She thinks people are reacting negatively to the new Miranda and to Che because they have issues with LGBTQ characters. And I read that the original plan was for Miranda to get together with Nya, her law professor, which kind of makes more sense and would have allowed for a tighter plot, but Cynthia Nixon insisted on bringing in Sara Ramirez (Che).
AJLT is Cynthia Nixon's vanity project.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 03:04
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand Miranda as such a weak, fawning, bumbling mess. She’s supposed to be a Harvard educated lawyer, isn’t she? Her character is unbelievable.
She is done with the corporate world.
We are still waiting to see Che vajay. It is coming people….
Anonymous
07/14/2023 01:10
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Eh. I just watched the threesome scene too. I didn’t think it was a big deal. It was classic Miranda with the leg cramp. And Che didn’t keep going, which was not what I expected from their character.
Honestly, I fast-forwarded. Blech
Lyle is HOT. I’d be into it. Plus the scene was like one minute long. Fast forwarding seems like more effort than needed. You could have blinked twice and missed it.
Anonymous
07/14/2023 01:06
Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...
Anonymous wrote:Eh. I just watched the threesome scene too. I didn’t think it was a big deal. It was classic Miranda with the leg cramp. And Che didn’t keep going, which was not what I expected from their character.
Honestly, I fast-forwarded. Blech