Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When one considers all of the taxes that Washington-resident Maret families pay to the District, I respectfully submit that you are full of horse hooey.
Maret argument in a nutshell: we're rich so we deserve whatever we want. You poors just need to suck it up.
Anonymous wrote:When one considers all of the taxes that Washington-resident Maret families pay to the District, I respectfully submit that you are full of horse hooey.
Anonymous wrote:
Stop crying like you’re poor and all Maret families are rich.
Anonymous wrote:Maret employs a lot of District residents who pay taxes. Maret provides substantial financial aid for numerous DC students who attend Maret. It frees up a lot of spots in good Upper Northwest public schools that can be used by EOTP kids. And it preserves and stewards a national historic landmark.
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Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.
Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.
Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.
That's what the city is trying to do now -- shift management of the Ellington field to DPR from DCPS, and it would be used by Hardy and Ellington, and the rest of the community. However, the idea has run into vocal objections from Burleith neighbors who say that if it is used for recreation by sports leagues and the like (when it isn't being used by one of the schools) it would bring too many cars to their streets. So the proposal is stalled.
So then keep it within the schools rather than opening it to DPR groups, and shift it from Ellington to Hardy or keep it with Ellington but with a simple MOU for Hardy. This isn't rocket science. It would serve Hardy, it doesn't seem like Ellington is using it much, and it keeps peace with the neighborhood.
Jelleff is just a much better field. To bring Ellington up to Jelleff's level would cost millions of dollars. Far more than what Maret is paying to use Jelleff -- which is why this is outrageous.
I'll posit that a fairer deal would have been to say to Maret, thank you for what you did in 2009, but your ten years are up. If you'd like another ten years, let's do the same deal again but at Ellington this time.
If the Hardy parents want a brand new best in class field so much, then raise funds for it - or lobby DCPS for it. Either way, it might require a little effort and industriousness.
Where does access to a public park by public schools require industriousness while for private school it just requires a bribe to Dc councilman/Maret parent/soon to be felon Jack Evans?
So there is no access to a public park for public school kids? Sure. My kids play there all the time. The indoor basketball courts are alway full. The field is in constant demand from youth and adult sports league(soccer, lacrosse, etc). Hardy is a middle school. How many of the 375 students play an outdoor school team sport that require use of a field? Why can’t the few students who want to do school team sports use the Duke Ellington’s unused field? why can’t anyone use the DE Field? it is always empty and no one can reserve it for use.
The public education budget for DC is 2.3 billion. DC DPR has a budget of 56 million. Stop tying to steal facilities from the underfunded DPR. Hardy has an outside play area that includes tennis courts. If Hardy needs more take it out of the 2.3 billion, not out of DPR’s 56 million.
Look I get it why you don't want to talk about the details of the Maret Jelleff deal and would rather talk about anything else under the sun. Because the fact is, outside of the Maret bubble, nobody thins this deal is an appropriate use of public assets. And nobody finds the voluminous talking points -- designed to confuse, rather than illuminate -- persuasive on any level.
+1 If you’re part of Maret’s crisis PR team, tell your boss you need better talking points
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Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.
Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.
Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.
That's what the city is trying to do now -- shift management of the Ellington field to DPR from DCPS, and it would be used by Hardy and Ellington, and the rest of the community. However, the idea has run into vocal objections from Burleith neighbors who say that if it is used for recreation by sports leagues and the like (when it isn't being used by one of the schools) it would bring too many cars to their streets. So the proposal is stalled.
So then keep it within the schools rather than opening it to DPR groups, and shift it from Ellington to Hardy or keep it with Ellington but with a simple MOU for Hardy. This isn't rocket science. It would serve Hardy, it doesn't seem like Ellington is using it much, and it keeps peace with the neighborhood.
Jelleff is just a much better field. To bring Ellington up to Jelleff's level would cost millions of dollars. Far more than what Maret is paying to use Jelleff -- which is why this is outrageous.
I'll posit that a fairer deal would have been to say to Maret, thank you for what you did in 2009, but your ten years are up. If you'd like another ten years, let's do the same deal again but at Ellington this time.
If the Hardy parents want a brand new best in class field so much, then raise funds for it - or lobby DCPS for it. Either way, it might require a little effort and industriousness.
Where does access to a public park by public schools require industriousness while for private school it just requires a bribe to Dc councilman/Maret parent/soon to be felon Jack Evans?
So there is no access to a public park for public school kids? Sure. My kids play there all the time. The indoor basketball courts are alway full. The field is in constant demand from youth and adult sports league(soccer, lacrosse, etc). Hardy is a middle school. How many of the 375 students play an outdoor school team sport that require use of a field? Why can’t the few students who want to do school team sports use the Duke Ellington’s unused field? why can’t anyone use the DE Field? it is always empty and no one can reserve it for use.
The public education budget for DC is 2.3 billion. DC DPR has a budget of 56 million. Stop tying to steal facilities from the underfunded DPR. Hardy has an outside play area that includes tennis courts. If Hardy needs more take it out of the 2.3 billion, not out of DPR’s 56 million.
Your kids play there "all the time" because they go to Maret and get to use the park after school. DC public school kids and Boys and Girls Club members don't have that access because they don't pay $40k/year to Maret. But you know that already. You're just being dense because you know the only one "stealing facilities" from DC school children is Maret who will pay $95k/year for a facility DC bought 10 years ago for $15 million.
Stop crying like you’re poor and all Maret families are rich. Think of the money that your save by using public schools which all of us pay for. And if money is tight, then next time why not pass up buying the new Air Jordan’s and make a contribution to Jelleff or to your school PTA? Or roll up your sleeves and donate a little sweat equity. Organize a parent brigade to fix up Ellington field. Whiners are losers.
Ok Ian-why don’t you tell your Board to release Jelleff and the community will happily come up with the 95k (aka peanuts) that Maret is paying for exclusive access. And while you’re at it why don’t you have Maret start paying property taxes so it does more than suck the blood out of DC taxpayers.
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Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.
Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.
Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.
That's what the city is trying to do now -- shift management of the Ellington field to DPR from DCPS, and it would be used by Hardy and Ellington, and the rest of the community. However, the idea has run into vocal objections from Burleith neighbors who say that if it is used for recreation by sports leagues and the like (when it isn't being used by one of the schools) it would bring too many cars to their streets. So the proposal is stalled.
So then keep it within the schools rather than opening it to DPR groups, and shift it from Ellington to Hardy or keep it with Ellington but with a simple MOU for Hardy. This isn't rocket science. It would serve Hardy, it doesn't seem like Ellington is using it much, and it keeps peace with the neighborhood.
Jelleff is just a much better field. To bring Ellington up to Jelleff's level would cost millions of dollars. Far more than what Maret is paying to use Jelleff -- which is why this is outrageous.
I'll posit that a fairer deal would have been to say to Maret, thank you for what you did in 2009, but your ten years are up. If you'd like another ten years, let's do the same deal again but at Ellington this time.
If the Hardy parents want a brand new best in class field so much, then raise funds for it - or lobby DCPS for it. Either way, it might require a little effort and industriousness.
Where does access to a public park by public schools require industriousness while for private school it just requires a bribe to Dc councilman/Maret parent/soon to be felon Jack Evans?
So there is no access to a public park for public school kids? Sure. My kids play there all the time. The indoor basketball courts are alway full. The field is in constant demand from youth and adult sports league(soccer, lacrosse, etc). Hardy is a middle school. How many of the 375 students play an outdoor school team sport that require use of a field? Why can’t the few students who want to do school team sports use the Duke Ellington’s unused field? why can’t anyone use the DE Field? it is always empty and no one can reserve it for use.
The public education budget for DC is 2.3 billion. DC DPR has a budget of 56 million. Stop tying to steal facilities from the underfunded DPR. Hardy has an outside play area that includes tennis courts. If Hardy needs more take it out of the 2.3 billion, not out of DPR’s 56 million.
Your kids play there "all the time" because they go to Maret and get to use the park after school. DC public school kids and Boys and Girls Club members don't have that access because they don't pay $40k/year to Maret. But you know that already. You're just being dense because you know the only one "stealing facilities" from DC school children is Maret who will pay $95k/year for a facility DC bought 10 years ago for $15 million.
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Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.
Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.
Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.
That's what the city is trying to do now -- shift management of the Ellington field to DPR from DCPS, and it would be used by Hardy and Ellington, and the rest of the community. However, the idea has run into vocal objections from Burleith neighbors who say that if it is used for recreation by sports leagues and the like (when it isn't being used by one of the schools) it would bring too many cars to their streets. So the proposal is stalled.
So then keep it within the schools rather than opening it to DPR groups, and shift it from Ellington to Hardy or keep it with Ellington but with a simple MOU for Hardy. This isn't rocket science. It would serve Hardy, it doesn't seem like Ellington is using it much, and it keeps peace with the neighborhood.
Jelleff is just a much better field. To bring Ellington up to Jelleff's level would cost millions of dollars. Far more than what Maret is paying to use Jelleff -- which is why this is outrageous.
I'll posit that a fairer deal would have been to say to Maret, thank you for what you did in 2009, but your ten years are up. If you'd like another ten years, let's do the same deal again but at Ellington this time.
If the Hardy parents want a brand new best in class field so much, then raise funds for it - or lobby DCPS for it. Either way, it might require a little effort and industriousness.
Where does access to a public park by public schools require industriousness while for private school it just requires a bribe to Dc councilman/Maret parent/soon to be felon Jack Evans?
So there is no access to a public park for public school kids? Sure. My kids play there all the time. The indoor basketball courts are alway full. The field is in constant demand from youth and adult sports league(soccer, lacrosse, etc). Hardy is a middle school. How many of the 375 students play an outdoor school team sport that require use of a field? Why can’t the few students who want to do school team sports use the Duke Ellington’s unused field? why can’t anyone use the DE Field? it is always empty and no one can reserve it for use.
The public education budget for DC is 2.3 billion. DC DPR has a budget of 56 million. Stop tying to steal facilities from the underfunded DPR. Hardy has an outside play area that includes tennis courts. If Hardy needs more take it out of the 2.3 billion, not out of DPR’s 56 million.
Look I get it why you don't want to talk about the details of the Maret Jelleff deal and would rather talk about anything else under the sun. Because the fact is, outside of the Maret bubble, nobody thins this deal is an appropriate use of public assets. And nobody finds the voluminous talking points -- designed to confuse, rather than illuminate -- persuasive on any level.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.
Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.
Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.
That's what the city is trying to do now -- shift management of the Ellington field to DPR from DCPS, and it would be used by Hardy and Ellington, and the rest of the community. However, the idea has run into vocal objections from Burleith neighbors who say that if it is used for recreation by sports leagues and the like (when it isn't being used by one of the schools) it would bring too many cars to their streets. So the proposal is stalled.
So then keep it within the schools rather than opening it to DPR groups, and shift it from Ellington to Hardy or keep it with Ellington but with a simple MOU for Hardy. This isn't rocket science. It would serve Hardy, it doesn't seem like Ellington is using it much, and it keeps peace with the neighborhood.
Jelleff is just a much better field. To bring Ellington up to Jelleff's level would cost millions of dollars. Far more than what Maret is paying to use Jelleff -- which is why this is outrageous.
I'll posit that a fairer deal would have been to say to Maret, thank you for what you did in 2009, but your ten years are up. If you'd like another ten years, let's do the same deal again but at Ellington this time.
If the Hardy parents want a brand new best in class field so much, then raise funds for it - or lobby DCPS for it. Either way, it might require a little effort and industriousness.
Where does access to a public park by public schools require industriousness while for private school it just requires a bribe to Dc councilman/Maret parent/soon to be felon Jack Evans?
So there is no access to a public park for public school kids? Sure. My kids play there all the time. The indoor basketball courts are alway full. The field is in constant demand from youth and adult sports league(soccer, lacrosse, etc). Hardy is a middle school. How many of the 375 students play an outdoor school team sport that require use of a field? Why can’t the few students who want to do school team sports use the Duke Ellington’s unused field? why can’t anyone use the DE Field? it is always empty and no one can reserve it for use.
The public education budget for DC is 2.3 billion. DC DPR has a budget of 56 million. Stop tying to steal facilities from the underfunded DPR. Hardy has an outside play area that includes tennis courts. If Hardy needs more take it out of the 2.3 billion, not out of DPR’s 56 million.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know why Maret didn’t bother to find a private athletic field or build its own after all these years? Is their planning area incompetent or just prefers to pay bribes to politicians rather than a market rate for land?
Maret has a large field which is used all weekend by non-Maret groups. Maret’s challenge is that they have three divisions on one smallish campus and the one field doesn’t can’t handle everyone during the school week. The suggestion about Maret maybe buying the Hardy facility from DC would be deliciously ironic.
Maret can easily solve its "challenge" by shelling out some cash rather than relying on the goodwill of Jack Evans and the rest of the DC government officials they bribed so that they only have to pay $95k/year. Sidwell has an underground parking lot that gives it more space for things like athletic fields. I don't know why anyone would choose Maret as so many other DC area privates have better resources including sufficient field space.
You should be very careful about alleging that the Maret School bribed anyone, lest you want a defamation suit in your Xmas stocking.
Maret would have to prove that the defamation is false. Can they? Since Jack Evans was part of the first deal a decade ago (which was maligned even then as a backroom deal) and is now under multiple federal investigations, and Maret has been very eager to avoid the public consultation process, if I were Maret I would be very wary of inviting further scrutiny of my actions on this shady deal.
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Do you realize Jelleff is not a DCPS facility? Its a DPR. The mission statement for DPR is not to provide DCPS recreation facilities. DPR already priorities use of facilities for DC residents through a fee structure. If Hardy is going to take over Jelleff, the school system should pay for improvements and maintenance for the facility out of Hardy’s budget.
Do you realize that Hardy teams now play and practice at DPR fields? Jelleff just happens to be across the street instead of across the city.
Why doesn't Hardy just use Ellington field? I drive by it a lot and never see anyone playing on it much during school days or after school. It's a short walk away, and then you wouldn't have to whine about poor Hardy for 165+ pages.
That's what the city is trying to do now -- shift management of the Ellington field to DPR from DCPS, and it would be used by Hardy and Ellington, and the rest of the community. However, the idea has run into vocal objections from Burleith neighbors who say that if it is used for recreation by sports leagues and the like (when it isn't being used by one of the schools) it would bring too many cars to their streets. So the proposal is stalled.
So then keep it within the schools rather than opening it to DPR groups, and shift it from Ellington to Hardy or keep it with Ellington but with a simple MOU for Hardy. This isn't rocket science. It would serve Hardy, it doesn't seem like Ellington is using it much, and it keeps peace with the neighborhood.
Jelleff is just a much better field. To bring Ellington up to Jelleff's level would cost millions of dollars. Far more than what Maret is paying to use Jelleff -- which is why this is outrageous.
I'll posit that a fairer deal would have been to say to Maret, thank you for what you did in 2009, but your ten years are up. If you'd like another ten years, let's do the same deal again but at Ellington this time.
If the Hardy parents want a brand new best in class field so much, then raise funds for it - or lobby DCPS for it. Either way, it might require a little effort and industriousness.
Where does access to a public park by public schools require industriousness while for private school it just requires a bribe to Dc councilman/Maret parent/soon to be felon Jack Evans?
So there is no access to a public park for public school kids? Sure. My kids play there all the time. The indoor basketball courts are alway full. The field is in constant demand from youth and adult sports league(soccer, lacrosse, etc). Hardy is a middle school. How many of the 375 students play an outdoor school team sport that require use of a field? Why can’t the few students who want to do school team sports use the Duke Ellington’s unused field? why can’t anyone use the DE Field? it is always empty and no one can reserve it for use.
The public education budget for DC is 2.3 billion. DC DPR has a budget of 56 million. Stop tying to steal facilities from the underfunded DPR. Hardy has an outside play area that includes tennis courts. If Hardy needs more take it out of the 2.3 billion, not out of DPR’s 56 million.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know why Maret didn’t bother to find a private athletic field or build its own after all these years? Is their planning area incompetent or just prefers to pay bribes to politicians rather than a market rate for land?
Maret has a large field which is used all weekend by non-Maret groups. Maret’s challenge is that they have three divisions on one smallish campus and the one field doesn’t can’t handle everyone during the school week. The suggestion about Maret maybe buying the Hardy facility from DC would be deliciously ironic.
Maret can easily solve its "challenge" by shelling out some cash rather than relying on the goodwill of Jack Evans and the rest of the DC government officials they bribed so that they only have to pay $95k/year. Sidwell has an underground parking lot that gives it more space for things like athletic fields. I don't know why anyone would choose Maret as so many other DC area privates have better resources including sufficient field space.
You should be very careful about alleging that the Maret School bribed anyone, lest you want a defamation suit in your Xmas stocking.