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Anonymous wrote:People should live according to their values. The inherent problem with the sahm vs wohm war is that some people can't accept that their values are not universal. It is not fair to criticize others for not living up to your standards - in fact it is none of your fucking business.

At the same time you have to draw a line somewhere. In many places women are considered property, in others children are sent to war. You can't just accept anything that goes past as differing cultural values. It's weak and pathetic. Stand up for yourself and what you know to be right.

I am talking specifically about something that is a matter of individual preference and family situation. I am not going to work or stay home to live up to other people's values and standards. I am standing up for myself by doing what works best for my family. You should do the same. I am not weak or pathetic btw i am a bad-ass (in a good way).

If you are a SAHM you are far from a bad-ass....in way darlin'

Grow the fuck up.

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Anonymous wrote:People should live according to their values. The inherent problem with the sahm vs wohm war is that some people can't accept that their values are not universal. It is not fair to criticize others for not living up to your standards - in fact it is none of your fucking business.

At the same time you have to draw a line somewhere. In many places women are considered property, in others children are sent to war. You can't just accept anything that goes past as differing cultural values. It's weak and pathetic. Stand up for yourself and what you know to be right.

I am talking specifically about something that is a matter of individual preference and family situation. I am not going to work or stay home to live up to other people's values and standards. I am standing up for myself by doing what works best for my family. You should do the same. I am not weak or pathetic btw i am a bad-ass (in a good way).

If you are a SAHM you are far from a bad-ass....in way darlin'

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't there another thread for this ongoing stay at home vs working mom?

Why is it going on and on and on here?

Because there's one militant stay at home mommy on here who needs to

You must be the troll who keeps insulting SAHMs, trying your hardest to get a rise out of them. Don't you have work to do?

No one in this thread is trolling except the lady who insists fathers can't comfort their children.

Riiiiight... definitely not the person (you?) who has said how "lacking" SAHMs are, in every conceivable way. Nope, no troll there.

wohm's can't handle their own medecine

WOHMs clearly can handle more than SAHMs...we do it everyday

SAHM's work too you know, before they had children. You work now and pay someone to raise your children. Not sure what the extra things you're doing are.

So what? We all worked before DC.

I've never paid someone to raise my kids. My kids were in a small home daycare for less than 5 hours a day of which they slept for a good 2 hours of that.

I know it might be hard to follow, but the "extra thing" I am doing is called having a career. You can do both.....well, I can do both I guess you can't or "won't."

Not sure what "career" you're having by working 5 hours a day

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Anonymous wrote:People should live according to their values. The inherent problem with the sahm vs wohm war is that some people can't accept that their values are not universal. It is not fair to criticize others for not living up to your standards - in fact it is none of your fucking business.

At the same time you have to draw a line somewhere. In many places women are considered property, in others children are sent to war. You can't just accept anything that goes past as differing cultural values. It's weak and pathetic. Stand up for yourself and what you know to be right.

I am talking specifically about something that is a matter of individual preference and family situation. I am not going to work or stay home to live up to other people's values and standards. I am standing up for myself by doing what works best for my family. You should do the same. I am not weak or pathetic btw i am a bad-ass (in a good way).

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't there another thread for this ongoing stay at home vs working mom?

Why is it going on and on and on here?

Because there's one militant stay at home mommy on here who needs to

You must be the troll who keeps insulting SAHMs, trying your hardest to get a rise out of them. Don't you have work to do?

No one in this thread is trolling except the lady who insists fathers can't comfort their children.

Riiiiight... definitely not the person (you?) who has said how "lacking" SAHMs are, in every conceivable way. Nope, no troll there.

wohm's can't handle their own medecine

WOHMs clearly can handle more than SAHMs...we do it everyday

SAHM's work too you know, before they had children. You work now and pay someone to raise your children. Not sure what the extra things you're doing are.

So what? We all worked before DC.

I've never paid someone to raise my kids. My kids were in a small home daycare for less than 5 hours a day of which they slept for a good 2 hours of that.

I know it might be hard to follow, but the "extra thing" I am doing is called having a career. You can do both.....well, I can do both I guess you can't or "won't."

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't there another thread for this ongoing stay at home vs working mom?

Why is it going on and on and on here?

Because there's one militant stay at home mommy on here who needs to

You must be the troll who keeps insulting SAHMs, trying your hardest to get a rise out of them. Don't you have work to do?

No one in this thread is trolling except the lady who insists fathers can't comfort their children.

Riiiiight... definitely not the person (you?) who has said how "lacking" SAHMs are, in every conceivable way. Nope, no troll there.

wohm's can't handle their own medecine

WOHMs clearly can handle more than SAHMs...we do it everyday

SAHM's work too you know, before they had children. You work now and pay someone to raise your children. Not sure what the extra things you're doing are.

Anonymous wrote:All women should be sterilized at 35. There's just too many problems with children born after that

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Anonymous wrote:I think that the two SAE brothers booted from OU deserve their day in court and President Boren's decision to expel them was expedient yet questionable. Especially in light of the Supreme Court's decisions on speech codes and 1st Amendment cases (KKK, Westboro). I abhor the brothers' behavior as much as any thinking person, but these guys will have a good defense in court since there's a distinction between their actions (calling for lynching) and making an immediate or specific threat towards a specific individual.

And as a recent college grad, I think lowering the drinking age to 18 or 19 and curbing the zero-tolerance nonsense for underage possession of alcohol on campuses would do a LOT to mitigate the garbage that originates in Greek life and the unofficial underground houses that pop up after the chapter gets banned. I went a well regarded northern school (Dickinson) and our SAEs were huge tools too. They were infamous for nasty behavior and the first (and last) SAE party I went to freshman year was the first time someone offered to sell me coke. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them knew that infamous chant... yet girls flocked to their house and other frats on weekends for various shenanigans, largely because our college town was small and boring and our six frats were the only game in town for big parties with alcohol on weekends. Why? America thinks 18-20 year-old adult citizens can't be trusted to buy, consume or possess booze. I get why this law made sense in 1985, but a revision of this policy is long overdue. Most college kids WILL drink underage and would be better off under the supervision of a bartender who can cut them off and call them a taxi instead of binge drinking behind closed doors in filthy basements. I don't think that outright banning Greek life is the answer to improving campuses either, but I can't help but think we'd have less sexual assault, less violence and fewer sad headlines about degenerate campus behavior if we stopped infantalizing young adults and let them go to a damn bar legally, like their peers in the rest of the Western world.

I had a great time in college, but the status quo needs to change fast.