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Anonymous wrote:My favorite part of this thread is that no one could acknowledge any room for improvement and instead just went for personal attacks.

Either you have someone who is hell bent on having people validate their choices or there is a defensive administrator working overtime.

Some people explained what Walls offers, what it doesn’t and why, who it’s good for. The “but muh DCI” crowd has no interest in an honest discussion outside boosterism, so why bother?

The school is fine, gets >1300 applicants for 150 spots, has good outcomes for engaged kids, seems to have happy kids on average. I didn’t want a TJ for my kid. There are enough like me to fill the school. If you do, there’s TJ.

I say all this as someone who grew up hardo striver and went to the “best schools”.

What?? I don’t see any DCI crowd boosterism. Where is that??

It’s just pages of Walls families trying to justify the schools weak STEM offereings.

Er, no. Several posters said their STEM kids at Walls were happy and doing well.

Other posters said that can't possibly be true, that those posters are "delusional" about their kids happiness and progress.

Furthermore, the Walls posters are in denial for not understanding that Walls STEM offerings could and should be better.

Walls parents said, yes, it would be nice if Walls had more STEM offerings, though fortunately the offerings are decent, and the STEM kids are happy and learning, and, besides, it's not like there are other options that are inarguably better.

Oh yes! said the other posters. With 100% certainty, Basis and DCI are better for all students with any interest in STEM. Thus is absolutely true, even though no kid has free choice among all those schools and even though few schools in the DMV have the perfect menu of courses such that a STEM kid can do college before repeating college at college, which any kid with any interest in STEM must do.

Walls parents said that the Walls STEM kids are getting a good, broad education (including in science and math), and they feel comfortable that the Walls high school education will serve the kids well in college and in life.

Other posters said, "Why do the Walls patents have such low standards?!" and "Why are the Walls parents so defensive?!"

- dp, who is thankful for voice to text

Lots of subjective stuff up there. Great that some kids are happy at Walls but lets look at things objectively in what Walls does and does not offer in regards to STEM opportunities

- No full courses of AP science classes every year
- No science labs
- No math classes after Calculus
- No STEM elective classes
- No computer science or coding classes
- No robotics team
- No STEM clubs or EC
- No STEM internship opportunities


If any of the above is incorrect, then Walls families please correct or modify.

Also PP you are twisting and using certain things like delusional to fit your agenda. No one said anyone was delusional about their kids happiness at Walls. What was said was that the Walls parent with STEM kid posting was deluding herself if she thinks her kid is going to get the same STEM exposure and opportunities as other schools with better programs. For example, schools that do offer all the things listed above that Walls does not.

This is very helpful thank you

Why is that bogus list popping up again?!

As was discussed earlier in the thread, every point in that email is wrong. I have no idea how that poster made up this list, but Walls has basically everything that list says it doesn't have.

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Anonymous wrote:My favorite part of this thread is that no one could acknowledge any room for improvement and instead just went for personal attacks.

Either you have someone who is hell bent on having people validate their choices or there is a defensive administrator working overtime.

Some people explained what Walls offers, what it doesn’t and why, who it’s good for. The “but muh DCI” crowd has no interest in an honest discussion outside boosterism, so why bother?

The school is fine, gets >1300 applicants for 150 spots, has good outcomes for engaged kids, seems to have happy kids on average. I didn’t want a TJ for my kid. There are enough like me to fill the school. If you do, there’s TJ.

I say all this as someone who grew up hardo striver and went to the “best schools”.

What?? I don’t see any DCI crowd boosterism. Where is that??

It’s just pages of Walls families trying to justify the schools weak STEM offereings.

Er, no. Several posters said their STEM kids at Walls were happy and doing well.

Other posters said that can't possibly be true, that those posters are "delusional" about their kids happiness and progress.

Furthermore, the Walls posters are in denial for not understanding that Walls STEM offerings could and should be better.

Walls parents said, yes, it would be nice if Walls had more STEM offerings, though fortunately the offerings are decent, and the STEM kids are happy and learning, and, besides, it's not like there are other options that are inarguably better.

Oh yes! said the other posters. With 100% certainty, Basis and DCI are better for all students with any interest in STEM. Thus is absolutely true, even though no kid has free choice among all those schools and even though few schools in the DMV have the perfect menu of courses such that a STEM kid can do college before repeating college at college, which any kid with any interest in STEM must do.

Walls parents said that the Walls STEM kids are getting a good, broad education (including in science and math), and they feel comfortable that the Walls high school education will serve the kids well in college and in life.

Other posters said, "Why do the Walls patents have such low standards?!" and "Why are the Walls parents so defensive?!"

- dp, who is thankful for voice to text

Lots of subjective stuff up there. Great that some kids are happy at Walls but lets look at things objectively in what Walls does and does not offer in regards to STEM opportunities

- No full courses of AP science classes every year
- No science labs
- No math classes after Calculus
- No STEM elective classes
- No computer science or coding classes
- No robotics team
- No STEM clubs or EC
- No STEM internship opportunities


If any of the above is incorrect, then Walls families please correct or modify.

Also PP you are twisting and using certain things like delusional to fit your agenda. No one said anyone was delusional about their kids happiness at Walls. What was said was that the Walls parent with STEM kid posting was deluding herself if she thinks her kid is going to get the same STEM exposure and opportunities as other schools with better programs. For example, schools that do offer all the things listed above that Walls does not.

This is very helpful thank you

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Anonymous wrote:My favorite part of this thread is that no one could acknowledge any room for improvement and instead just went for personal attacks.

Either you have someone who is hell bent on having people validate their choices or there is a defensive administrator working overtime.

Some people explained what Walls offers, what it doesn’t and why, who it’s good for. The “but muh DCI” crowd has no interest in an honest discussion outside boosterism, so why bother?

The school is fine, gets >1300 applicants for 150 spots, has good outcomes for engaged kids, seems to have happy kids on average. I didn’t want a TJ for my kid. There are enough like me to fill the school. If you do, there’s TJ.

I say all this as someone who grew up hardo striver and went to the “best schools”.

What?? I don’t see any DCI crowd boosterism. Where is that??

It’s just pages of Walls families trying to justify the schools weak STEM offereings.

Er, no. Several posters said their STEM kids at Walls were happy and doing well.

Other posters said that can't possibly be true, that those posters are "delusional" about their kids happiness and progress.

Furthermore, the Walls posters are in denial for not understanding that Walls STEM offerings could and should be better.

Walls parents said, yes, it would be nice if Walls had more STEM offerings, though fortunately the offerings are decent, and the STEM kids are happy and learning, and, besides, it's not like there are other options that are inarguably better.

Oh yes! said the other posters. With 100% certainty, Basis and DCI are better for all students with any interest in STEM. Thus is absolutely true, even though no kid has free choice among all those schools and even though few schools in the DMV have the perfect menu of courses such that a STEM kid can do college before repeating college at college, which any kid with any interest in STEM must do.

Walls parents said that the Walls STEM kids are getting a good, broad education (including in science and math), and they feel comfortable that the Walls high school education will serve the kids well in college and in life.

Other posters said, "Why do the Walls patents have such low standards?!" and "Why are the Walls parents so defensive?!"

- dp, who is thankful for voice to text

Lots of subjective stuff up there. Great that some kids are happy at Walls but lets look at things objectively in what Walls does and does not offer in regards to STEM opportunities

- No full courses of AP science classes every year
- No science labs
- No math classes after Calculus
- No STEM elective classes
- No computer science or coding classes
- No robotics team
- No STEM clubs or EC
- No STEM internship opportunities


If any of the above is incorrect, then Walls families please correct or modify.

Also PP you are twisting and using certain things like delusional to fit your agenda. No one said anyone was delusional about their kids happiness at Walls. What was said was that the Walls parent with STEM kid posting was deluding herself if she thinks her kid is going to get the same STEM exposure and opportunities as other schools with better programs. For example, schools that do offer all the things listed above that Walls does not.

Anonymous wrote:Walls has a Robotics Team.

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Anonymous wrote:These are the winning science Olympiad teams in the city last year:

1 BASIS DC Hubble Washington, DC
2 National Cathedral School Washington, DC
3 Maret School A Washington, DC
4 Field School Washington, DC
5 McKinley Technology H.S. Washington, DC
6 Maret School B Washington, DC
7 BASIS DC Webb Washington, DC
8 Washington International School Washington, DC
9 GWU Online H.S. Washington, DC
10 Columbia Heights Education Campus Washington,
11 McArthur H.S. Washington, DC

What's GWU online high school?

My prediction based on this list is that public school parents with STEMy kids on the eastern side of the city will slowly start ranking McKinley Tech over Walls. Like maybe 10 years from now that will officially swap. I can understand why Deal and Hardy parents won't, because the commute is crazy, but I see slow adoption from the other side of the city.

That’s what they should be doing. McKinley is set up to be a STEM school.

Here is the big problem. You can’t offer advance STEM courses and fill these classes if you don’t have a pipeline of strong STEM offerings coming up the chain and strong STEM kids.

Take for example math. You can’t offer AP calculus in 10th if you don’t offer Algebra 2 by 8th grade. What school in DCPS EOTP offers that? Even having a geometry class in 8th, which is a lower bar isn’t happening in overwhelming majority of schools. As to science classes, well the CAPE scores were so bad, that DCPS no longer even does them. The new science curriculum is not going to help either.

You have to start with stronger offerings in middle school for the students with potential. You have to keep the STEM kids in DCPS and not have them leave for charters, privates, or the burbs.

I don’t have the answer to above but it’s pointless to offer advance classes at the high school level with rigor if you don’t have kids who can handle them.

There's no middle school EOTP with a big enough cohort of kids in need of algebra 2, either, and it's not going to get created just by offering that class. You can see the number of sixth graders getting 4s and 5s in math at Deal compared to any EOTP middle school, both because of composition but also because Deal is huge. You'd have to do a test-in program and commit to differentiation. Which would be great, but DCPS won't even do test-in for high school admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:These are the winning science Olympiad teams in the city last year:

1 BASIS DC Hubble Washington, DC
2 National Cathedral School Washington, DC
3 Maret School A Washington, DC
4 Field School Washington, DC
5 McKinley Technology H.S. Washington, DC
6 Maret School B Washington, DC
7 BASIS DC Webb Washington, DC
8 Washington International School Washington, DC
9 GWU Online H.S. Washington, DC
10 Columbia Heights Education Campus Washington,
11 McArthur H.S. Washington, DC

What's GWU online high school?

My prediction based on this list is that public school parents with STEMy kids on the eastern side of the city will slowly start ranking McKinley Tech over Walls. Like maybe 10 years from now that will officially swap. I can understand why Deal and Hardy parents won't, because the commute is crazy, but I see slow adoption from the other side of the city.

That’s what they should be doing. McKinley is set up to be a STEM school.

Here is the big problem. You can’t offer advance STEM courses and fill these classes if you don’t have a pipeline of strong STEM offerings coming up the chain and strong STEM kids.

Take for example math. You can’t offer AP calculus in 10th if you don’t offer Algebra 2 by 8th grade. What school in DCPS EOTP offers that? Even having a geometry class in 8th, which is a lower bar isn’t happening in overwhelming majority of schools. As to science classes, well the CAPE scores were so bad, that DCPS no longer even does them. The new science curriculum is not going to help either.

You have to start with stronger offerings in middle school for the students with potential. You have to keep the STEM kids in DCPS and not have them leave for charters, privates, or the burbs.

I don’t have the answer to above but it’s pointless to offer advance classes at the high school level with rigor if you don’t have kids who can handle them.

Anonymous wrote:So does BASIS have two teams?

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Anonymous wrote:These are the winning science Olympiad teams in the city last year:

1 BASIS DC Hubble Washington, DC
2 National Cathedral School Washington, DC
3 Maret School A Washington, DC
4 Field School Washington, DC
5 McKinley Technology H.S. Washington, DC
6 Maret School B Washington, DC
7 BASIS DC Webb Washington, DC
8 Washington International School Washington, DC
9 GWU Online H.S. Washington, DC
10 Columbia Heights Education Campus Washington,
11 McArthur H.S. Washington, DC

What's GWU online high school?

My prediction based on this list is that public school parents with STEMy kids on the eastern side of the city will slowly start ranking McKinley Tech over Walls. Like maybe 10 years from now that will officially swap. I can understand why Deal and Hardy parents won't, because the commute is crazy, but I see slow adoption from the other side of the city.

That’s what they should be doing. McKinley is set up to be a STEM school.

Here is the big problem. You can’t offer advance STEM courses and fill these classes if you don’t have a pipeline of strong STEM offerings coming up the chain and strong STEM kids.

Take for example math. You can’t offer AP calculus in 10th if you don’t offer Algebra 2 by 8th grade. What school in DCPS EOTP offers that? Even having a geometry class in 8th, which is a lower bar isn’t happening in overwhelming majority of schools. As to science classes, well the CAPE scores were so bad, that DCPS no longer even does them. The new science curriculum is not going to help either.

You have to start with stronger offerings in middle school for the students with potential. You have to keep the STEM kids in DCPS and not have them leave for charters, privates, or the burbs.

I don’t have the answer to above but it’s pointless to offer advance classes at the high school level with rigor if you don’t have kids who can handle them.

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Anonymous wrote:These are the winning science Olympiad teams in the city last year:

1 BASIS DC Hubble Washington, DC
2 National Cathedral School Washington, DC
3 Maret School A Washington, DC
4 Field School Washington, DC
5 McKinley Technology H.S. Washington, DC
6 Maret School B Washington, DC
7 BASIS DC Webb Washington, DC
8 Washington International School Washington, DC
9 GWU Online H.S. Washington, DC
10 Columbia Heights Education Campus Washington,
11 McArthur H.S. Washington, DC

What's GWU online high school?

My prediction based on this list is that public school parents with STEMy kids on the eastern side of the city will slowly start ranking McKinley Tech over Walls. Like maybe 10 years from now that will officially swap. I can understand why Deal and Hardy parents won't, because the commute is crazy, but I see slow adoption from the other side of the city.

That’s what they should be doing. McKinley is set up to be a STEM school.

Here is the big problem. You can’t offer advance STEM courses and fill these classes if you don’t have a pipeline of strong STEM offerings coming up the chain and strong STEM kids.

Take for example math. You can’t offer AP calculus in 10th if you don’t offer Algebra 2 by 8th grade. What school in DCPS EOTP offers that? Even having a geometry class in 8th, which is a lower bar isn’t happening in overwhelming majority of schools. As to science classes, well the CAPE scores were so bad, that DCPS no longer even does them. The new science curriculum is not going to help either.

You have to start with stronger offerings in middle school for the students with potential. You have to keep the STEM kids in DCPS and not have them leave for charters, privates, or the burbs.

I don’t have the answer to above but it’s pointless to offer advance classes at the high school level with rigor if you don’t have kids who can handle them.

Yeah it's going to o be slow going because you can't stop STEM kids for taking a BASIS spot if they get one, some subset will already been in a DCI feeder and will stay because they have friends there and the offerings are preferable to McKinley for them, and then some high achieving kids will just want. walls and Banneker based on reputation. So you have this very slowly growing group of other STEM kids who are coming up the pipeline and will choose McKinley.

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Anonymous wrote:These are the winning science Olympiad teams in the city last year:

1 BASIS DC Hubble Washington, DC
2 National Cathedral School Washington, DC
3 Maret School A Washington, DC
4 Field School Washington, DC
5 McKinley Technology H.S. Washington, DC
6 Maret School B Washington, DC
7 BASIS DC Webb Washington, DC
8 Washington International School Washington, DC
9 GWU Online H.S. Washington, DC
10 Columbia Heights Education Campus Washington,
11 McArthur H.S. Washington, DC

What's GWU online high school?

My prediction based on this list is that public school parents with STEMy kids on the eastern side of the city will slowly start ranking McKinley Tech over Walls. Like maybe 10 years from now that will officially swap. I can understand why Deal and Hardy parents won't, because the commute is crazy, but I see slow adoption from the other side of the city.

That’s what they should be doing. McKinley is set up to be a STEM school.

Here is the big problem. You can’t offer advance STEM courses and fill these classes if you don’t have a pipeline of strong STEM offerings coming up the chain and strong STEM kids.

Take for example math. You can’t offer AP calculus in 10th if you don’t offer Algebra 2 by 8th grade. What school in DCPS EOTP offers that? Even having a geometry class in 8th, which is a lower bar isn’t happening in overwhelming majority of schools. As to science classes, well the CAPE scores were so bad, that DCPS no longer even does them. The new science curriculum is not going to help either.

You have to start with stronger offerings in middle school for the students with potential. You have to keep the STEM kids in DCPS and not have them leave for charters, privates, or the burbs.

I don’t have the answer to above but it’s pointless to offer advance classes at the high school level with rigor if you don’t have kids who can handle them.

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Anonymous wrote:These are the winning science Olympiad teams in the city last year:

1 BASIS DC Hubble Washington, DC
2 National Cathedral School Washington, DC
3 Maret School A Washington, DC
4 Field School Washington, DC
5 McKinley Technology H.S. Washington, DC
6 Maret School B Washington, DC
7 BASIS DC Webb Washington, DC
8 Washington International School Washington, DC
9 GWU Online H.S. Washington, DC
10 Columbia Heights Education Campus Washington,
11 McArthur H.S. Washington, DC

What's GWU online high school?

My prediction based on this list is that public school parents with STEMy kids on the eastern side of the city will slowly start ranking McKinley Tech over Walls. Like maybe 10 years from now that will officially swap. I can understand why Deal and Hardy parents won't, because the commute is crazy, but I see slow adoption from the other side of the city.

That’s what they should be doing. McKinley is set up to be a STEM school.

Anonymous wrote:These are the winning science Olympiad teams in the city last year:

1 BASIS DC Hubble Washington, DC
2 National Cathedral School Washington, DC
3 Maret School A Washington, DC
4 Field School Washington, DC
5 McKinley Technology H.S. Washington, DC
6 Maret School B Washington, DC
7 BASIS DC Webb Washington, DC
8 Washington International School Washington, DC
9 GWU Online H.S. Washington, DC
10 Columbia Heights Education Campus Washington,
11 McArthur H.S. Washington, DC

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Anonymous wrote:These are the winning science Olympiad teams in the city last year:

1 BASIS DC Hubble Washington, DC
2 National Cathedral School Washington, DC
3 Maret School A Washington, DC
4 Field School Washington, DC
5 McKinley Technology H.S. Washington, DC
6 Maret School B Washington, DC
7 BASIS DC Webb Washington, DC
8 Washington International School Washington, DC
9 GWU Online H.S. Washington, DC
10 Columbia Heights Education Campus Washington,
11 McArthur H.S. Washington, DC

Above is great. But to be fair, lots of these kids are doing and studying stuff outside of school.

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Anonymous wrote:These are the winning science Olympiad teams in the city last year:

1 BASIS DC Hubble Washington, DC
2 National Cathedral School Washington, DC
3 Maret School A Washington, DC
4 Field School Washington, DC
5 McKinley Technology H.S. Washington, DC
6 Maret School B Washington, DC
7 BASIS DC Webb Washington, DC
8 Washington International School Washington, DC
9 GWU Online H.S. Washington, DC
10 Columbia Heights Education Campus Washington,
11 McArthur H.S. Washington, DC

What's GWU online high school?

My prediction based on this list is that public school parents with STEMy kids on the eastern side of the city will slowly start ranking McKinley Tech over Walls. Like maybe 10 years from now that will officially swap. I can understand why Deal and Hardy parents won't, because the commute is crazy, but I see slow adoption from the other side of the city.