Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People that have not seriously tried diet and exercise aren’t going on GLP-1s. As a meter of fact I had to show that tix tried that first to get my doctor to prescribe.
"Dangerous" poster here. Exactly my point, and GLP-1s should not be the first line treatment for these people.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Just because you are shedding fat from injectables doesn’t mean you are making your body healthier. You might be losing fat but you need to exercise in an intentional and consistent manner to make sure your organs (ie the heart) and muscles are stronger.
100%
Thigh girth has been linked to longer life. Muscle
VO2 max numbers have also increase lifespan. That’s cardio
Exercise reduces cancer risk (not about fat loss) but increases blood flow to the brain, reduces risk of cancer and heart attacks from the immune factors it stimulates.
You can be skinny and unhealthy. 100%
Reducing cancer risk is absolutely about fat loss. Many cancers are “estrogen positive”and as such, they feed off of the estrogen produced by fat, even in menopause. I wish someone had explained that to me before I got breast cancer. My main breast cancer risk factor was being overweight. I also wish a doctor had listened to me in the 5 years before I got the breast cancer when I was complaining about weight gain and how diet and exercise seemed to have very little impact and that I had to eat an abnormally low number of calories to lose weight. Turns out the cause of my slow weight gain was another illness I was separately diagnosed with. Multiple doctors were very dismissive of my concerns, taking the general view expressed by repeated PPs here that I wasn’t making a serious or effective effort to lose weight. Perhaps had GLPs been available, I could have kept my weight down and avoided breast cancer.
This is why I’m wondering why we’re trusting doctors with GLPs. Do you see how much they are getting wrong already? If we find out GLPs cause cancer, what then?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Just because you are shedding fat from injectables doesn’t mean you are making your body healthier. You might be losing fat but you need to exercise in an intentional and consistent manner to make sure your organs (ie the heart) and muscles are stronger.
100%
Thigh girth has been linked to longer life. Muscle
VO2 max numbers have also increase lifespan. That’s cardio
Exercise reduces cancer risk (not about fat loss) but increases blood flow to the brain, reduces risk of cancer and heart attacks from the immune factors it stimulates.
You can be skinny and unhealthy. 100%
Reducing cancer risk is absolutely about fat loss. Many cancers are “estrogen positive”and as such, they feed off of the estrogen produced by fat, even in menopause. I wish someone had explained that to me before I got breast cancer. My main breast cancer risk factor was being overweight. I also wish a doctor had listened to me in the 5 years before I got the breast cancer when I was complaining about weight gain and how diet and exercise seemed to have very little impact and that I had to eat an abnormally low number of calories to lose weight. Turns out the cause of my slow weight gain was another illness I was separately diagnosed with. Multiple doctors were very dismissive of my concerns, taking the general view expressed by repeated PPs here that I wasn’t making a serious or effective effort to lose weight. Perhaps had GLPs been available, I could have kept my weight down and avoided breast cancer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Just because you are shedding fat from injectables doesn’t mean you are making your body healthier. You might be losing fat but you need to exercise in an intentional and consistent manner to make sure your organs (ie the heart) and muscles are stronger.
100%
Thigh girth has been linked to longer life. Muscle
VO2 max numbers have also increase lifespan. That’s cardio
Exercise reduces cancer risk (not about fat loss) but increases blood flow to the brain, reduces risk of cancer and heart attacks from the immune factors it stimulates.
You can be skinny and unhealthy. 100%
Reducing cancer risk is absolutely about fat loss. Many cancers are “estrogen positive”and as such, they feed off of the estrogen produced by fat, even in menopause. I wish someone had explained that to me before I got breast cancer. My main breast cancer risk factor was being overweight. I also wish a doctor had listened to me in the 5 years before I got the breast cancer when I was complaining about weight gain and how diet and exercise seemed to have very little impact and that I had to eat an abnormally low number of calories to lose weight. Turns out the cause of my slow weight gain was another illness I was separately diagnosed with. Multiple doctors were very dismissive of my concerns, taking the general view expressed by repeated PPs here that I wasn’t making a serious or effective effort to lose weight. Perhaps had GLPs been available, I could have kept my weight down and avoided breast cancer.
It seems that you have found the cure for cancer/s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Just because you are shedding fat from injectables doesn’t mean you are making your body healthier. You might be losing fat but you need to exercise in an intentional and consistent manner to make sure your organs (ie the heart) and muscles are stronger.
100%
Thigh girth has been linked to longer life. Muscle
VO2 max numbers have also increase lifespan. That’s cardio
Exercise reduces cancer risk (not about fat loss) but increases blood flow to the brain, reduces risk of cancer and heart attacks from the immune factors it stimulates.
You can be skinny and unhealthy. 100%
Reducing cancer risk is absolutely about fat loss. Many cancers are “estrogen positive”and as such, they feed off of the estrogen produced by fat, even in menopause. I wish someone had explained that to me before I got breast cancer. My main breast cancer risk factor was being overweight. I also wish a doctor had listened to me in the 5 years before I got the breast cancer when I was complaining about weight gain and how diet and exercise seemed to have very little impact and that I had to eat an abnormally low number of calories to lose weight. Turns out the cause of my slow weight gain was another illness I was separately diagnosed with. Multiple doctors were very dismissive of my concerns, taking the general view expressed by repeated PPs here that I wasn’t making a serious or effective effort to lose weight. Perhaps had GLPs been available, I could have kept my weight down and avoided breast cancer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Just because you are shedding fat from injectables doesn’t mean you are making your body healthier. You might be losing fat but you need to exercise in an intentional and consistent manner to make sure your organs (ie the heart) and muscles are stronger.
100%
Thigh girth has been linked to longer life. Muscle
VO2 max numbers have also increase lifespan. That’s cardio
Exercise reduces cancer risk (not about fat loss) but increases blood flow to the brain, reduces risk of cancer and heart attacks from the immune factors it stimulates.
You can be skinny and unhealthy. 100%
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Pp has a point. How a malnourished body will fight an illness. However, The fact that you need to insult everyone that doesn’t validate you tells me that you are worried about your decision.
Did you see the research listed? MUCH BETTER CHANCE WITH CANCER WHEN NOT OBESE. It's right there. You could have read it. But no, you choose to ignore the actual medicine and go with a dangerous combination of your bias and facts you made up.
That's why you're an imbecile also.
I am not sure how you think these two are related. The study is talking about the RISK of getting cancer NOT the chance of surviving cancer which is pp’s point.
Are you for real? No one is this stupid in real life... stop trolling. And I do not care if you don't like the insult, this is just stupid at new levels and deserves no better treatment than to be called as such.
Read the other studies as well, or (god forbid) do 5 minutes of research on your own before you post your dangerous imbecile posts like this one.
I am just astounded by this post, even if it is a troll.
Someone is mad that people aren’t validating her.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Pp has a point. How a malnourished body will fight an illness. However, The fact that you need to insult everyone that doesn’t validate you tells me that you are worried about your decision.
Did you see the research listed? MUCH BETTER CHANCE WITH CANCER WHEN NOT OBESE. It's right there. You could have read it. But no, you choose to ignore the actual medicine and go with a dangerous combination of your bias and facts you made up.
That's why you're an imbecile also.
I am not sure how you think these two are related. The study is talking about the RISK of getting cancer NOT the chance of surviving cancer which is pp’s point.
Are you for real? No one is this stupid in real life... stop trolling. And I do not care if you don't like the insult, this is just stupid at new levels and deserves no better treatment than to be called as such.
Read the other studies as well, or (god forbid) do 5 minutes of research on your own before you post your dangerous imbecile posts like this one.
I am just astounded by this post, even if it is a troll.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Pp has a point. How a malnourished body will fight an illness. However, The fact that you need to insult everyone that doesn’t validate you tells me that you are worried about your decision.
Did you see the research listed? MUCH BETTER CHANCE WITH CANCER WHEN NOT OBESE. It's right there. You could have read it. But no, you choose to ignore the actual medicine and go with a dangerous combination of your bias and facts you made up.
That's why you're an imbecile also.
PP is talking about malnourished people. If you are not one of them you shouldn’t worry too much.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Pp has a point. How a malnourished body will fight an illness. However, The fact that you need to insult everyone that doesn’t validate you tells me that you are worried about your decision.
Did you see the research listed? MUCH BETTER CHANCE WITH CANCER WHEN NOT OBESE. It's right there. You could have read it. But no, you choose to ignore the actual medicine and go with a dangerous combination of your bias and facts you made up.
That's why you're an imbecile also.
I am not sure how you think these two are related. The study is talking about the RISK of getting cancer NOT the chance of surviving cancer which is pp’s point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Pp has a point. How a malnourished body will fight an illness. However, The fact that you need to insult everyone that doesn’t validate you tells me that you are worried about your decision.
Did you see the research listed? MUCH BETTER CHANCE WITH CANCER WHEN NOT OBESE. It's right there. You could have read it. But no, you choose to ignore the actual medicine and go with a dangerous combination of your bias and facts you made up.
That's why you're an imbecile also.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard horror stories about it causing major digestive issues—either severe constipation or the opposite—and that gives me pause every time I think about trying it. I’ve been fighting to loose an extra 15 pounds of menopause weight for while now.
I started with microdosing since I had a similar amount to lose. So injection is .15 as opposed to the lowest prescription dose of .25. It works without a lot of the digestive upset. Maybe a little at first but I’ve adjusted.
I also don’t lose weight quite as quickly but am down 12 pounds in about as many weeks. I will add it has almost eliminated my peri symptoms including night sweats which has been a bonus. But hair loss is real. Not overwhelming but definitely happening.
I noticed a couple posters mention hair loss. Is that a side effect of the GLP drug, or is that something that happens anyway with rapid weight loss due to cutting calories?
And if it is a drug side effect, does it happen with all of the GLP drugs or just some of them? Does a smaller dose prevent it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Pp has a point. How a malnourished body will fight an illness. However, The fact that you need to insult everyone that doesn’t validate you tells me that you are worried about your decision.
Did you see the research listed? MUCH BETTER CHANCE WITH CANCER WHEN NOT OBESE. It's right there. You could have read it. But no, you choose to ignore the actual medicine and go with a dangerous combination of your bias and facts you made up.
That's why you're an imbecile also.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just saw my 52 year old sister; she is positively gaunt and I’d guess about 110 lbs (5’5”). She entered menopause complaining of weight gain (and made mention shedding gained about 50 pounds). We think her “menopause doctor” prescribed GLP and in 4 months, had a dramatic weight loss.
History of yoyo dieting and weight gain/loss and an ED.
She looks awful but thinks she looks fabulous.
I wonder how these bodies will fight an illness such as a cancer.
Since obesity is strongly connected to increased cancer risk and advancement and worse outcomes, the answer is way better than it would have otherwise.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/obesity-fact-sheet
Oh, and you are an ignorant imbecile.
Just because you are shedding fat from injectables doesn’t mean you are making your body healthier. You might be losing fat but you need to exercise in an intentional and consistent manner to make sure your organs (ie the heart) and muscles are stronger.
100%
Thigh girth has been linked to longer life. Muscle
VO2 max numbers have also increase lifespan. That’s cardio
Exercise reduces cancer risk (not about fat loss) but increases blood flow to the brain, reduces risk of cancer and heart attacks from the immune factors it stimulates.
You can be skinny and unhealthy. 100%
Exercise reduces cancer risk (not about fat loss)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just wish we knew how we got here. Maybe these drugs can drastically improve the health of more well to do Americans but they were not needed 50 years ago. What did we do to our food and lifestyle that drug companies get this boon?
I think chemicals in our foods definitely helped get us here. I posted on another thread that going off processed food has been a game changer for me. Food noise went away except for when I am getting hungry for a meal and it's much easier to eat in my weight-loss range. The problem is it is crazy time consuming and hard to sustain when life is busier.
I have friends on GLPs and it has been incredible. They went on when they moved toward obesity at a doctor's recommendation. I am slightly overweight and now finally losing. I have not asked about it because some of the the rarer and more serious side effects are things that run in my family (without the medication) so I just don't want to go there unless I must, but I do think the drugs seem pretty amazing.
It’s for sure processed food. I’m here in the UK right now, and the junk in their supermarkets is as bad or worse than ours. And they are just as fat as the US is. I would honestly say that the volume of sugar is higher here, and candy more pervasive.
I went looking for normal tart cherry juice at two supermarkets - tesco and sainsbury - not a thing. Lots of sugary blended products though.
It’s extremely difficult, time consuming, and expensive to navigate around all the junk in our food system.