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OP, you “prepare” for midlife by living. And you have anxiety on this topic. Get help.

This -- you do all the things that we all know we should do -- eat well, exercise, sleep, engage with the world, and reduce stress. That's it. And guess what -- you will still experience perimenopause, menopause, get old, and die. I think the discourse on peri/menopause has gone SO FAR in the direction of HOW AWFUL it is, that the experiences of many (most?) people who maybe have a few symptoms, but nothing truly miserable, gets completely overlooked. I think it is somewhat similar to discussions of childbirth, where the people who had truly horrible experiences drown out the voices of those who got through it fine.

I agree with this and I use HRT. I noted the age of the women giving Inner Balance testimonials and am shocked at how young the average is - and the dose of estradiol is far higher than the patch typically prescribed to women decades older.

OP, you “prepare” for midlife by living. And you have anxiety on this topic. Get help.

This -- you do all the things that we all know we should do -- eat well, exercise, sleep, engage with the world, and reduce stress. That's it. And guess what -- you will still experience perimenopause, menopause, get old, and die. I think the discourse on peri/menopause has gone SO FAR in the direction of HOW AWFUL it is, that the experiences of many (most?) people who maybe have a few symptoms, but nothing truly miserable, gets completely overlooked. I think it is somewhat similar to discussions of childbirth, where the people who had truly horrible experiences drown out the voices of those who got through it fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoy being 31 and not being in peri for the next 15 years or so? My daughter will be 29 this year and I dont think your age group is generally pregaming.

Peri starts in late 30s.

Not usually, no, with some exceptions. Women usually notice symptoms starting in their 40s. Some don't have any negative symptoms at all and go into menopause without any sort of problems.

The insomnia and tiredness starts earlier if you pay attention.

I'm an NP and this may be true for you but absolutely not true for everyone. It's very strange that you are trying to tell people how their own bodies work.

NP. It’s absolutely bizarre that people in their 30s think their issues relate to perimenopause rather than say having young children or being in a demanding phase of their career.

They want “permission” to take hormonal meds to fix something that hasn’t happened. I’m pro-HRT. This is about women thinking that actually being a midlife woman is a disease that they can prevent with a patch and some pills. Crazy.

Not exactly popular point around here, but midlife women are guilty of that too. How many posts start with the equivalent of - I treated my body like sh*t for 50 years but it was all fine then and now it’s not and I need a quick fix.

No, you judgmental clown.

The distinction of age MATTERS. There is no study documenting a link between what you call “not treating my body like sh!t for 50 years” and an absence of vestibular disturbance. You can’t “balanced eating” your way out of osteoporosis, which a lot of women have despite decades of utterly saintly habits.

Why keep your talents here? I encourage you to tell your 50something besties to their faces that they’re looking for “magic” to fix their hot flashes because they were slobs for a few decades.

I hope you are under physician’s care. You sound unhinged.

This board is horrible because of you and the poster above, not because of me. I want women who ware in actual menopause or perimenopause to have access to appropriate healthcare. I hate to break it to you both, but you can’t prevent perimenopause, and me actual life and appearance and health are great. You’re both pitiable.

OP, you “prepare” for midlife by living. And you have anxiety on this topic. Get help.

Who here has said they want to deny access to appropriate health care? But let’s not pretend that many many women neglect their own health.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoy being 31 and not being in peri for the next 15 years or so? My daughter will be 29 this year and I dont think your age group is generally pregaming.

Peri starts in late 30s.

Not usually, no, with some exceptions. Women usually notice symptoms starting in their 40s. Some don't have any negative symptoms at all and go into menopause without any sort of problems.

The insomnia and tiredness starts earlier if you pay attention.

I'm an NP and this may be true for you but absolutely not true for everyone. It's very strange that you are trying to tell people how their own bodies work.

NP. It’s absolutely bizarre that people in their 30s think their issues relate to perimenopause rather than say having young children or being in a demanding phase of their career.

They want “permission” to take hormonal meds to fix something that hasn’t happened. I’m pro-HRT. This is about women thinking that actually being a midlife woman is a disease that they can prevent with a patch and some pills. Crazy.

Not exactly popular point around here, but midlife women are guilty of that too. How many posts start with the equivalent of - I treated my body like sh*t for 50 years but it was all fine then and now it’s not and I need a quick fix.

No, you judgmental clown.

The distinction of age MATTERS. There is no study documenting a link between what you call “not treating my body like sh!t for 50 years” and an absence of vestibular disturbance. You can’t “balanced eating” your way out of osteoporosis, which a lot of women have despite decades of utterly saintly habits.

Why keep your talents here? I encourage you to tell your 50something besties to their faces that they’re looking for “magic” to fix their hot flashes because they were slobs for a few decades.

I hope you are under physician’s care. You sound unhinged.

This board is horrible because of you and the poster above, not because of me. I want women who ware in actual menopause or perimenopause to have access to appropriate healthcare. I hate to break it to you both, but you can’t prevent perimenopause, and me actual life and appearance and health are great. You’re both pitiable.

OP, you “prepare” for midlife by living. And you have anxiety on this topic. Get help.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoy being 31 and not being in peri for the next 15 years or so? My daughter will be 29 this year and I dont think your age group is generally pregaming.

Peri starts in late 30s.

Not usually, no, with some exceptions. Women usually notice symptoms starting in their 40s. Some don't have any negative symptoms at all and go into menopause without any sort of problems.

The insomnia and tiredness starts earlier if you pay attention.

I'm an NP and this may be true for you but absolutely not true for everyone. It's very strange that you are trying to tell people how their own bodies work.

NP. It’s absolutely bizarre that people in their 30s think their issues relate to perimenopause rather than say having young children or being in a demanding phase of their career.

They want “permission” to take hormonal meds to fix something that hasn’t happened. I’m pro-HRT. This is about women thinking that actually being a midlife woman is a disease that they can prevent with a patch and some pills. Crazy.

Not exactly popular point around here, but midlife women are guilty of that too. How many posts start with the equivalent of - I treated my body like sh*t for 50 years but it was all fine then and now it’s not and I need a quick fix.

No, you judgmental clown.

The distinction of age MATTERS. There is no study documenting a link between what you call “not treating my body like sh!t for 50 years” and an absence of vestibular disturbance. You can’t “balanced eating” your way out of osteoporosis, which a lot of women have despite decades of utterly saintly habits.

Why keep your talents here? I encourage you to tell your 50something besties to their faces that they’re looking for “magic” to fix their hot flashes because they were slobs for a few decades.

It sounds like it's news to you that plenty of people who post on this board are surprised that they could treat their bodies poorly in earlier days but not now. And yes, if I had a friend who said that - I would absolutely ask why they thought they could treat themselves poorly forever with no consequences. I have never called anyone a "slob" nor do I comment on people's appearance. Despite being middled-aged, it looks like you suffer from extreme overeaction and insecurity. That seems like a terrible way to live. I hope that you are able to address the many issues you seem to be facing.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoy being 31 and not being in peri for the next 15 years or so? My daughter will be 29 this year and I dont think your age group is generally pregaming.

Peri starts in late 30s.

Not usually, no, with some exceptions. Women usually notice symptoms starting in their 40s. Some don't have any negative symptoms at all and go into menopause without any sort of problems.

The insomnia and tiredness starts earlier if you pay attention.

I'm an NP and this may be true for you but absolutely not true for everyone. It's very strange that you are trying to tell people how their own bodies work.

NP. It’s absolutely bizarre that people in their 30s think their issues relate to perimenopause rather than say having young children or being in a demanding phase of their career.

They want “permission” to take hormonal meds to fix something that hasn’t happened. I’m pro-HRT. This is about women thinking that actually being a midlife woman is a disease that they can prevent with a patch and some pills. Crazy.

Not exactly popular point around here, but midlife women are guilty of that too. How many posts start with the equivalent of - I treated my body like sh*t for 50 years but it was all fine then and now it’s not and I need a quick fix.

No, you judgmental clown.

The distinction of age MATTERS. There is no study documenting a link between what you call “not treating my body like sh!t for 50 years” and an absence of vestibular disturbance. You can’t “balanced eating” your way out of osteoporosis, which a lot of women have despite decades of utterly saintly habits.

Why keep your talents here? I encourage you to tell your 50something besties to their faces that they’re looking for “magic” to fix their hot flashes because they were slobs for a few decades.

I hope you are under physician’s care. You sound unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoy being 31 and not being in peri for the next 15 years or so? My daughter will be 29 this year and I dont think your age group is generally pregaming.

Peri starts in late 30s.

Not usually, no, with some exceptions. Women usually notice symptoms starting in their 40s. Some don't have any negative symptoms at all and go into menopause without any sort of problems.

The insomnia and tiredness starts earlier if you pay attention.

I'm an NP and this may be true for you but absolutely not true for everyone. It's very strange that you are trying to tell people how their own bodies work.

NP. It’s absolutely bizarre that people in their 30s think their issues relate to perimenopause rather than say having young children or being in a demanding phase of their career.

They want “permission” to take hormonal meds to fix something that hasn’t happened. I’m pro-HRT. This is about women thinking that actually being a midlife woman is a disease that they can prevent with a patch and some pills. Crazy.

Not exactly popular point around here, but midlife women are guilty of that too. How many posts start with the equivalent of - I treated my body like sh*t for 50 years but it was all fine then and now it’s not and I need a quick fix.

No, you judgmental clown.

The distinction of age MATTERS. There is no study documenting a link between what you call “not treating my body like sh!t for 50 years” and an absence of vestibular disturbance. You can’t “balanced eating” your way out of osteoporosis, which a lot of women have despite decades of utterly saintly habits.

Why keep your talents here? I encourage you to tell your 50something besties to their faces that they’re looking for “magic” to fix their hot flashes because they were slobs for a few decades.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoy being 31 and not being in peri for the next 15 years or so? My daughter will be 29 this year and I dont think your age group is generally pregaming.

Peri starts in late 30s.

Not usually, no, with some exceptions. Women usually notice symptoms starting in their 40s. Some don't have any negative symptoms at all and go into menopause without any sort of problems.

The insomnia and tiredness starts earlier if you pay attention.

I'm an NP and this may be true for you but absolutely not true for everyone. It's very strange that you are trying to tell people how their own bodies work.

NP. It’s absolutely bizarre that people in their 30s think their issues relate to perimenopause rather than say having young children or being in a demanding phase of their career.

They want “permission” to take hormonal meds to fix something that hasn’t happened. I’m pro-HRT. This is about women thinking that actually being a midlife woman is a disease that they can prevent with a patch and some pills. Crazy.

Not exactly popular point around here, but midlife women are guilty of that too. How many posts start with the equivalent of - I treated my body like sh*t for 50 years but it was all fine then and now it’s not and I need a quick fix.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoy being 31 and not being in peri for the next 15 years or so? My daughter will be 29 this year and I dont think your age group is generally pregaming.

Peri starts in late 30s.

Not usually, no, with some exceptions. Women usually notice symptoms starting in their 40s. Some don't have any negative symptoms at all and go into menopause without any sort of problems.

The insomnia and tiredness starts earlier if you pay attention.

I'm an NP and this may be true for you but absolutely not true for everyone. It's very strange that you are trying to tell people how their own bodies work.

NP. It’s absolutely bizarre that people in their 30s think their issues relate to perimenopause rather than say having young children or being in a demanding phase of their career.

They want “permission” to take hormonal meds to fix something that hasn’t happened. I’m pro-HRT. This is about women thinking that actually being a midlife woman is a disease that they can prevent with a patch and some pills. Crazy.

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the weight training suggestion. It gets harder to do.

Also make sure you have at least a primary care and OB that you like and trust, ideally progressive, young out of med school, sex positive that have heard of menopause.

I’d say once you finish kids, switch someone who is only GYN.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoy being 31 and not being in peri for the next 15 years or so? My daughter will be 29 this year and I dont think your age group is generally pregaming.

Peri starts in late 30s.

Not usually, no, with some exceptions. Women usually notice symptoms starting in their 40s. Some don't have any negative symptoms at all and go into menopause without any sort of problems.

The insomnia and tiredness starts earlier if you pay attention.

I'm an NP and this may be true for you but absolutely not true for everyone. It's very strange that you are trying to tell people how their own bodies work.

NP. It’s absolutely bizarre that people in their 30s think their issues relate to perimenopause rather than say having young children or being in a demanding phase of their career.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoy being 31 and not being in peri for the next 15 years or so? My daughter will be 29 this year and I dont think your age group is generally pregaming.

Peri starts in late 30s.

Not usually, no, with some exceptions. Women usually notice symptoms starting in their 40s. Some don't have any negative symptoms at all and go into menopause without any sort of problems.

The insomnia and tiredness starts earlier if you pay attention.

For YOU. Some people feel nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Geez. Get therapy so you don’t go looking for things to be worried about!!!

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+ 10.

I resent OP coming in here. But I’m not surprised. I am over 50 with PCOS, now called PCOD, and it took me a decade to get the diagnosis. I don’t want that for anyone. I still loathe companies like Inner Balance using testimonials primarily from mid-30s women on giant doses of estrogen merrily bragging about a “restored” libido. It’s all bllsht, it’s all late stage capitalistic enshitification, and it’s identical to how the makers of Botox now have actors talk about how their expressivity “caused” their crow’s feet as if those creases are evidence of disease or “rapid aging.”

OP’s PMS and HG are not correlated with early or late menopause or rough perimenopause. So eff off and I say the same and wish the worst for every younger women here who posts to effectively say, I don’t want to fail at life and age like you losers, how can I prevent it? You can’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoy being 31 and not being in peri for the next 15 years or so? My daughter will be 29 this year and I dont think your age group is generally pregaming.

Peri starts in late 30s.

Not usually, no, with some exceptions. Women usually notice symptoms starting in their 40s. Some don't have any negative symptoms at all and go into menopause without any sort of problems.

The insomnia and tiredness starts earlier if you pay attention.

For YOU. Some people feel nothing.

I agree with the weight training suggestion. It gets harder to do.

Also make sure you have at least a primary care and OB that you like and trust, ideally progressive, young out of med school, sex positive that have heard of menopause.