Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northeastern has a 43% admit rate in ED and they take half their class in ED.

So any modestly average student can get in if they want to if they ED to Northeastern. But with the all the games they play, they can still show a 5% admit rate!

You need to look behind the numbers a little bit.

We can discuss facts about Northeastern no one has an issue with it. Yet we can’t discuss facts about UChicago, once we do it there is always this one mom jumping out accusing us as haters.

Yes. And this one does a lot of sock puppeting, self reply to her own posts. Weird.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northeastern has a 43% admit rate in ED and they take half their class in ED.

So any modestly average student can get in if they want to if they ED to Northeastern. But with the all the games they play, they can still show a 5% admit rate!

You need to look behind the numbers a little bit.

We can discuss facts about Northeastern no one has an issue with it. Yet we can’t discuss facts about UChicago, once we do it there is always this one mom jumping out accusing us as haters.

"we" "us"

It's only one poster repeatedly bashing Chicago. The proper pronouns would be "I" and "me."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northeastern has a 43% admit rate in ED and they take half their class in ED.

So any modestly average student can get in if they want to if they ED to Northeastern. But with the all the games they play, they can still show a 5% admit rate!

You need to look behind the numbers a little bit.

We can discuss facts about Northeastern no one has an issue with it. Yet we can’t discuss facts about UChicago, once we do it there is always this one mom jumping out accusing us as haters.

Because much of the UChicago bashing is based on guesses. They don't release any ED data, so everything is simply a conjecture, and often those statements are incorrect and misleading. Northeastern is much more transparent about its numbers, and there's no reason to speculate.

Anonymous wrote:Northeastern has a 43% admit rate in ED and they take half their class in ED.

So any modestly average student can get in if they want to if they ED to Northeastern. But with the all the games they play, they can still show a 5% admit rate!

You need to look behind the numbers a little bit.

We can discuss facts about Northeastern no one has an issue with it. Yet we can’t discuss facts about UChicago, once we do it there is always this one mom jumping out accusing us as haters.

Northeastern has a 43% admit rate in ED and they take half their class in ED.

So any modestly average student can get in if they want to if they ED to Northeastern. But with the all the games they play, they can still show a 5% admit rate!

You need to look behind the numbers a little bit.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yield Rates and Admit Rates for the Class of 2029

https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/

This table is misleading without providing more context and explanation.

UChicago's crazy 88% yield rate is a result of taking 80% of the class ED.

I still think yield is important, but mostly for schools that have low yields (<20%). That means a lot of students are getting in and not choosing the school.

I think they should have to publish two numbers: overall and the yield without excluding ED.

Why? Commit is commit.

Why are so many comments in this thread getting removed?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yield Rates and Admit Rates for the Class of 2029

https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/

This table is misleading without providing more context and explanation.

UChicago's crazy 88% yield rate is a result of taking 80% of the class ED.

Nothing is wrong is ED. It's a part of the system. A lot of high stat kids are committing. That's what yield is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Low acceptance rate simply means more students apply more and more schools, yield rate will go low too.
It's double edge sword, will impact the ranking in opposite way?

So far, a most extreme case I heard is one student applied 29 colleges, he can only go to one after all.
Don't college realize it?

USNWR doesnt include acceptance nor yield in their calculations.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/ranking-criteria-and-weights

OK, U Chicago gaming it just to show it's competitive?

Or they are insecure.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yield Rates and Admit Rates for the Class of 2029

https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/

This table is misleading without providing more context and explanation.

UChicago's crazy 88% yield rate is a result of taking 80% of the class ED.

I still think yield is important, but mostly for schools that have low yields (<20%). That means a lot of students are getting in and not choosing the school.

So? That is literally what many schools in the 30-60 range are like. Do you think the college does not know 50%+ of their applicants are applying to multiple T25 schools? Do you think the college does not know that 50% of their applicants would attend those T25 schools if accepted?

My kid had 2 of their 3 final choices like this: CWRU and Rochester. Both are filled with very smart kids, most of whom are there because they didn't get into any of the T25 schools they applied to as well. Go check out the school newspapers, it's a running joke at both that they are "filled with ivy rejects". My kid is at one of them and of their 15+ good friends, ALL of them had at least one of the following: WL, Spring Start, fall sophomore start at 2 or more T30 schools. They all have the resume/qualifications/make good candidates for those schools but with 90%+ rejection rates, they didn't get a fall freshman year acceptance. So that's where they ended up (CWRU or Rochester). Most of those kids get great jobs and/or are going onto graduate school/professional school at TOP places. So yes, they are T25/30 "rejects" who never looked back and continued to learn and excel at life, just not at a T25 school.

Also, both of those schools are not in the "best/most exciting" locations, so they will loose students to similar ranked schools in a "better town"---nobody goes there and plans to stay after graduation (like happens at Boston or Chicago schools, etc).

Anonymous wrote:Yes college realize this, it’s why ED1 and 2 exist.

And why Harvard (and the likes) defer high percentages of ED1 students. They know that they can then offer acceptances in RD and have an extremely high likelihood of getting a matriculation come fall.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Low acceptance rate simply means more students apply more and more schools, yield rate will go low too.
It's double edge sword, will impact the ranking in opposite way?

So far, a most extreme case I heard is one student applied 29 colleges, he can only go to one after all.
Don't college realize it?

USNWR doesnt include acceptance nor yield in their calculations.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/ranking-criteria-and-weights

OK, U Chicago gaming it just to show it's competitive?

There are more rankings than US news. Some do use these numbers as factors. US news indirectly uses these numbers through other factors.

How so?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yield Rates and Admit Rates for the Class of 2029

https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/

This table is misleading without providing more context and explanation.

UChicago's crazy 88% yield rate is a result of taking 80% of the class ED.

I still think yield is important, but mostly for schools that have low yields (<20%). That means a lot of students are getting in and not choosing the school.

I think they should have to publish two numbers: overall and the yield without excluding ED.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Low acceptance rate simply means more students apply more and more schools, yield rate will go low too.
It's double edge sword, will impact the ranking in opposite way?

So far, a most extreme case I heard is one student applied 29 colleges, he can only go to one after all.
Don't college realize it?

USNWR doesnt include acceptance nor yield in their calculations.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/ranking-criteria-and-weights

OK, U Chicago gaming it just to show it's competitive?

There are more rankings than US news. Some do use these numbers as factors. US news indirectly uses these numbers through other factors.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Low acceptance rate simply means more students apply more and more schools, yield rate will go low too.
It's double edge sword, will impact the ranking in opposite way?

So far, a most extreme case I heard is one student applied 29 colleges, he can only go to one after all.
Don't college realize it?

USNWR doesnt include acceptance nor yield in their calculations.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/ranking-criteria-and-weights

OK, U Chicago gaming it just to show it's competitive?

No need to single out Chicago, all the major schools currently compete to have the lowest acceptance rate even though there’s no relationship between acceptance rate and quality.