Anonymous wrote:Parent of a former school refusal kid who is now thriving (for the most part) in college.
1) Consider that his school environment is a root of the problem. Dig into this, if it can't be made better, sending him back to that environment is unhealthy.
2) This is a marathon not a sprint. Once you get off the path, you have a lot of freedom. If your kid is into it and will accompany you, it could be a great time to take a few months to get out and see museums and take advantage of where you are posted. This is not a long term solution, but if it lifts his spirits in the short term, could be helpful and buy you time to find his next school situation. I wouldn't worry about the academics - he can make things up when he is healthier and/or repeat a year of high school. This is not the end of the world.
3) The only way to treat anxiety is to face the thing you fear, so getting him back into school has to happen eventually. We chose Fusion because is was a completely different environment from my kid's school where he was bullied. Home schooling is avoiding the fear, and would only be a good short term thing.
4) If moving back to the US is the way to access the best therapy and school situation for your kid, absolutely do that. There are schools in the DMV that accept kids like your son - Nora comes to mind. We didn't take our kid's situation as seriously as we should have and ended up with residential treatment (serious $$) which maybe could have been avoided if we had not been in denial about how bad the anxiety was.
5) It is entirely possible that your kid can get therapy, change schools and still attend college and have a great life. Think if it this way: you are getting your kid coping strategies that he will use for the rest of his life. It might be a rocky or windy road, but it is entirely possible for you guys to get through this.
Hugs to you, OP.
Anonymous wrote:OP here- thanks everyone for the encouragement and good suggestions. I have a bunch of calls in to different places to get the details on all of our options (relocation etc)
I expect we will still be here for at least 6 weeks. In that time I hope to get DS into much more intensive therapy (multiple times per week).
For those who have been through this- how did you structure your days? Therapy will be 1st priority. And I plan to maintain our daily errand as a way to keep things from shrinking further until we get some professional guidance.
But I’m wondering about leaning into things that are interests (for DS that is geography, geology and cooking) and ways for him to be successful.
The last time we homeschooled we had playground trips and arts and crafts times etc. to add structure. I am having trouble imagining the teen version of this. Maybe we should relaunch our StarDew Valley farm.
I would be grateful for any ideas.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The biggest risk is not academics. It's that DS will never go back once they are out. Research school avoidance. The school doesn't care about the LT outcome.
Is there an alternative school in your area, as people talk about Fusion etc here?
+1.
+1.
With anxiety, especially severe anxiety, your world is always getting smaller. Each step you avoid feels better in the moment, but long term means the walls are now getting smaller regarding how much you can tolerate.
The trick is giving a lot of support plus scaffolding to push back on those walls, even a little bit, every day.
Yes, this is my worry. I’m trying really hard to find a therapist with experience with anxiety and exposure therapy but am not getting anywhere.
Does anyone have experience with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy or DBT for anxiety? Those are the skill sets of the people I am finding locally.
I don't know much about ACT, but DBT could be really helpful. It focuses a lot on strategies for emotion regulation and tolerating discomfort. You may also be able to find some DBT groups for teens, which might provide an element of social support.
I work in mental health and am trained in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and I'm familiar with DBT. ACT is an evidence-based treatment focused on learning how to tolerate strong negative emotions/thoughts instead of avoiding them (ACT incorporates exposure therapy into treatment). It works well for anxiety, and I'd probably send a kid with social anxiety to an ACT therapist over a DBT therapist. DBT is a great treatment, but it's aimed more at severe depression, self-harm, and severe emotion dysregulation. Though there's definitely a lot of overlap between the two treatments.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here- thanks for all of the kind words. I truly appreciate them as I’m feeling really overwhelmed at figuring this out.
A few details to answer some questions:
-I agree there may have been some badly handled bullying at school- but DS doesn’t want to share with me. I would characterize his social experiences more generally as “peer neglect” according to the PEERS model. DS did have 2 reliable people he ate lunch with who he considered friends. They haven’t met outside of school. Losing access to them will make this worse I think.
-currently overseas waiting to relocate to unknown next location this summer- so we don’t have a public school option. This uncertainty is not helping anything.
-local private schools aren’t accepting students at this point- I’m now looking for less traditional university style setting or possibly joining a tuition center where they do 1 on 1 instruction but there are other kids in the room with their tutors. This is the closest local option to Fusion.
-after taking some time to reflect back I can see the anxiety has been making life smaller for a while- quitting clubs, not doing physical activities etc which we overlooked because we thought academic stress was driving it
-local school can’t give credit for partial year, so even though he had B/Cs we need to do something about 10th grade credits. But I think my first priority has to be the anxiety and general health.
-I am fine to cofacilitate learning, I’m a SAHM because I don’t have work permit here but have relevant graduate credentials. I am a little reluctant because I think I need to stay in “mom lane” for emotional health.
Questions
-what does intensive therapy look like? Is it multiple times a week or different types of therapy? I’m having trouble imagining what this could/ should be
-I feel like we should possibly set up daily schedule without side of the house errands/ activities to fight the world shrinking issue. Is that a sound instinct? I’m an introvert who tends to have an errand day for efficiency.
-I am wondering if leaning into the other “roles” instead of student would be helpful. So for example defining small individual goals for things like being a good dog owner, cook, personal health etc. I am worried about impact on mental health if feeling like they have “failed” as a student.
-Does anyone have suggestions on language I should use/ not use? I’ve been thinking of saying we’re “pausing school” while we tackle the anxiety. But we’re not pausing learning as we’re learning to take care of ourselves.
-Am I crazy to think of this as a time to do some world schooling type activities and spend time in public at local museums and workshops for tourists? DD is a very curious kid, so this is an alternate way to support learning other than structured school right now. I am just trying to think how to scaffold to being able to readily join groups of peers. The known peers seem to be the specific driver of the anxiety.
I know I need an experienced therapist to guide us on the details. I am working hard to find that. But I also want to say I’ve gotten such truly excellent advice from this board over the years. Thanks in advance for reading and responding. It truly helps.
I would return to the US immediately and focus on school support here and access to therapy services in the US. I understand that your spouse needs to work overseas but most countries in the world are not equipped or do not desires to support people with special needs. Your son only has a few more years of school left so I would focus on being in the US and joining your spouse during school breaks.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The biggest risk is not academics. It's that DS will never go back once they are out. Research school avoidance. The school doesn't care about the LT outcome.
Is there an alternative school in your area, as people talk about Fusion etc here?
+1.
+1.
With anxiety, especially severe anxiety, your world is always getting smaller. Each step you avoid feels better in the moment, but long term means the walls are now getting smaller regarding how much you can tolerate.
The trick is giving a lot of support plus scaffolding to push back on those walls, even a little bit, every day.
Yes, this is my worry. I’m trying really hard to find a therapist with experience with anxiety and exposure therapy but am not getting anywhere.
Does anyone have experience with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy or DBT for anxiety? Those are the skill sets of the people I am finding locally.
I don't know much about ACT, but DBT could be really helpful. It focuses a lot on strategies for emotion regulation and tolerating discomfort. You may also be able to find some DBT groups for teens, which might provide an element of social support.