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Anonymous wrote:I secretly find it cute when people mispronounce words like that because it is more like a dialect (like people in certain areas saying warsh instead of wash or dropping vowels) and I don't need to notify anyone else when I hear it, feel aggravated or start a thread

Op here.

Warsh doesn’t bother me.

Dialects are endearing.

But I just can’t write off “ex-specially” as a dialect.

To me it sounds like the mispronunciation of a child. We’ve all heard a 4 year old make such a mistake. It just sounds child-like more than anything else.

Perhaps the simplest approach would be to enlarge your understanding of what dialects (and accents and pidgins and creoles and languages) are and how they develop. Or you could choose to indulge your just-can’t and wallow in being bothered. It sounds like you’re soliciting support more than you’re actually trying to overcome your desire to “correct” people who don’t speak like you. Perhaps you could learn to code switch, OP. How many languages and dialects do you speak? Learning a few more might be a great way to expand your vocabulary and occupy your mind.

FWIW I am fully bilingual and I studied linguistics in college along with other foreign languages that I haven’t fully mastered.

I’m not sure how code switching or dialects apply when we are talking about white Americans mispronouncing the word especially unless there is some midwestern or East Coast dialect where it is common knowledge that the word especially is pronounced differently. If *this* is actually a thing, then please enlighten me and I’ll finally disabuse myself of this admittedly bizarre pet peeve.

Do you walk about saying you're going to Par-ee and Roma this summer or are you going to Paris and Rome as pronounced inaccurately by English speakers? Do you correct people who say they're going to Milan instead of Milano?

From your linguistics studies you would have learned/learnt that people from different regions and countries speak English differently. Surveys can pinpoint quickly if you're from Texas, Maine, London, Glasgow or Sydney.

Pronouncing a foreign city using the English version doesn’t strike me as a mistake. It would obviously be incorrect to pronounce it Paris with the S if one was speaking French.

Fair point about regional dialects and pronunciation. Pray tell, which area of the USA is known for pronouncing especially with an X?

I don’t think it’s a dialect issue…particularly since I’ve heard UMC white people from across the country make the mistake.

Wash/Warsh is a dialect.

Water/wadder/waiter is a dialect.

But adding an X where it doesn’t exist seems to be a mistake more than anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:Because some people have difficulty with it. Like ask, library, and breakfast.

It's not like they're saying a totally different, unrecognizable word. You know what they are saying and you're choosing to get huffy about it. Chill.

Wait, how do people say "breakfast"?

Brake-fast. How do you say it, racist?

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Anonymous wrote:I secretly find it cute when people mispronounce words like that because it is more like a dialect (like people in certain areas saying warsh instead of wash or dropping vowels) and I don't need to notify anyone else when I hear it, feel aggravated or start a thread

Op here.

Warsh doesn’t bother me.

Dialects are endearing.

But I just can’t write off “ex-specially” as a dialect.

To me it sounds like the mispronunciation of a child. We’ve all heard a 4 year old make such a mistake. It just sounds child-like more than anything else.

Perhaps the simplest approach would be to enlarge your understanding of what dialects (and accents and pidgins and creoles and languages) are and how they develop. Or you could choose to indulge your just-can’t and wallow in being bothered. It sounds like you’re soliciting support more than you’re actually trying to overcome your desire to “correct” people who don’t speak like you. Perhaps you could learn to code switch, OP. How many languages and dialects do you speak? Learning a few more might be a great way to expand your vocabulary and occupy your mind.

FWIW I am fully bilingual and I studied linguistics in college along with other foreign languages that I haven’t fully mastered.

I’m not sure how code switching or dialects apply when we are talking about white Americans mispronouncing the word especially unless there is some midwestern or East Coast dialect where it is common knowledge that the word especially is pronounced differently. If *this* is actually a thing, then please enlighten me and I’ll finally disabuse myself of this admittedly bizarre pet peeve.

Do you walk about saying you're going to Par-ee and Roma this summer or are you going to Paris and Rome as pronounced inaccurately by English speakers? Do you correct people who say they're going to Milan instead of Milano?

From your linguistics studies you would have learned/learnt that people from different regions and countries speak English differently. Surveys can pinpoint quickly if you're from Texas, Maine, London, Glasgow or Sydney.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do so many people say “ex-specially”?

I want someone to do a PSA or YouTube tutorial coaching people on how to break it down and say it correctly.

Eh-specially.

No X.

I wish this didn’t bother me as much as it does.

It's the same reason people say expresso. It's called epenthesis. e + /sp/ is a spicy combo that's not very common in English, so speakers will shift to /ksp/ "ex" because it's easier to say and more familiar. English is full of these...feb-yoo-ary because "br" is a more challenging cluster. We learn words by ear first and sometimes those motor patterns become automatic long before spelling enters the picture.

Sure.

But wouldn’t you correct your kid if they said ex-presso?

Anonymous wrote:Why do Americans pronounce water (warder), schedule and metal (medal) differently than Brits. Should the Brits be correcting them, or do they accept that Americans have an accent?

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Anonymous wrote:I secretly find it cute when people mispronounce words like that because it is more like a dialect (like people in certain areas saying warsh instead of wash or dropping vowels) and I don't need to notify anyone else when I hear it, feel aggravated or start a thread

Op here.

Warsh doesn’t bother me.

Dialects are endearing.

But I just can’t write off “ex-specially” as a dialect.

To me it sounds like the mispronunciation of a child. We’ve all heard a 4 year old make such a mistake. It just sounds child-like more than anything else.

Perhaps the simplest approach would be to enlarge your understanding of what dialects (and accents and pidgins and creoles and languages) are and how they develop. Or you could choose to indulge your just-can’t and wallow in being bothered. It sounds like you’re soliciting support more than you’re actually trying to overcome your desire to “correct” people who don’t speak like you. Perhaps you could learn to code switch, OP. How many languages and dialects do you speak? Learning a few more might be a great way to expand your vocabulary and occupy your mind.

FWIW I am fully bilingual and I studied linguistics in college along with other foreign languages that I haven’t fully mastered.

I’m not sure how code switching or dialects apply when we are talking about white Americans mispronouncing the word especially unless there is some midwestern or East Coast dialect where it is common knowledge that the word especially is pronounced differently. If *this* is actually a thing, then please enlighten me and I’ll finally disabuse myself of this admittedly bizarre pet peeve.

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Anonymous wrote:Because some people have difficulty with it. Like ask, library, and breakfast.

It's not like they're saying a totally different, unrecognizable word. You know what they are saying and you're choosing to get huffy about it. Chill.

Wait, how do people say "breakfast"?

Brake-fast. How do you say it, racist?

Never heard this

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Anonymous wrote:I secretly find it cute when people mispronounce words like that because it is more like a dialect (like people in certain areas saying warsh instead of wash or dropping vowels) and I don't need to notify anyone else when I hear it, feel aggravated or start a thread

Op here.

Warsh doesn’t bother me.

Dialects are endearing.

But I just can’t write off “ex-specially” as a dialect.

To me it sounds like the mispronunciation of a child. We’ve all heard a 4 year old make such a mistake. It just sounds child-like more than anything else.

Ask yourself why you label some differences as dialects and some as mistakes. Is there a regional difference? Perhaps a racial or class difference? Your biases are coming out clearly in your post, even if you are blind to them.