Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UMich for STEM, UVA for humanities and especially anything that benefits from the DC proximity.
As an outsider with no tie to either, this is where my head went. I do think getting out of bubble is good for growth, but a political science major would change that.
Michigan has one of the very best poly sci programs in the country, better than UVA and if returning to DC, the student will be able to differentiate from the hordes of new grads by having that experience PLUS local connections. That said I think this is a close call, no wrong outcomes, but it’s just not the case that UM’s program is weaker.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UMich for STEM, UVA for humanities and especially anything that benefits from the DC proximity.
As an outsider with no tie to either, this is where my head went. I do think getting out of bubble is good for growth, but a political science major would change that.
Michigan has one of the very best poly sci programs in the country, better than UVA and if returning to DC, the student will be able to differentiate from the hordes of new grads by having that experience PLUS local connections. That said I think this is a close call, no wrong outcomes, but it’s just not the case that UM’s program is weaker.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UMich for STEM, UVA for humanities and especially anything that benefits from the DC proximity.
As an outsider with no tie to either, this is where my head went. I do think getting out of bubble is good for growth, but a political science major would change that.
Anonymous wrote:If from Virginia and debating then likely have preference for UMich.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My child had this choice last year and chose UVA over Michigan. UVA is half the size and that appealed to her (large but not huge). Also, Michigan is a real PITA to get to from DC as there are very few flights to Detroit and they can be really expensive if you're not buying well in advance or if you're buying on a popular weekend. My child got off the waitlist for Michigan last year in May and we literally could not visit to tour that week (before the decision was due) for under $800/person. We looked at flights from all 3 DMV airports and even considered driving to Philly or Richmond or Newark to save money but there was nothing. In contrast, UVA is a $18 Amtrak ride away (and yet feels like a different world to my DC kid).
Personally I haven't felt like class sizes are an especially big concern. Apart from the intro comparative politics class (POLSCI 140) I took, which was around 150 people, all of my Political Science classes have been 30 people or less. I have found all the professors communicative and willing to get to know students, you just need to be willing to speak to them after class or during office hours. I feel like people on this site tend to over emphasize the size of Michigan. Yes it is a large school but you often end up seeing the same people on a frequent basis as you cluster by class and major interests.
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Anonymous wrote:I know you say you don't want finances to be the decision maker, but . . . .
Paying OOS tuition in Michigan when you can pay in state for UVA seems crazy to me. Michigan is a really really big state school. It's a great state school, but from out of state, you get state-school services at private university prices.
What does your student think? Maybe the $200K would be better put towards a graduate degree, or half an apartment, or even to a charity important to you both.
I think the prestige difference btw the two places is marginal for undergrad.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My child had this choice last year and chose UVA over Michigan. UVA is half the size and that appealed to her (large but not huge). Also, Michigan is a real PITA to get to from DC as there are very few flights to Detroit and they can be really expensive if you're not buying well in advance or if you're buying on a popular weekend. My child got off the waitlist for Michigan last year in May and we literally could not visit to tour that week (before the decision was due) for under $800/person. We looked at flights from all 3 DMV airports and even considered driving to Philly or Richmond or Newark to save money but there was nothing. In contrast, UVA is a $18 Amtrak ride away (and yet feels like a different world to my DC kid).
Personally I haven't felt like class sizes are an especially big concern. Apart from the intro comparative politics class (POLSCI 140) I took, which was around 150 people, all of my Political Science classes have been 30 people or less. I have found all the professors communicative and willing to get to know students, you just need to be willing to speak to them after class or during office hours. I feel like people on this site tend to over emphasize the size of Michigan. Yes it is a large school but you often end up seeing the same people on a frequent basis as you cluster by class and major interests.