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Anonymous wrote:On girls side, no new teams being added from Virginia, and not anticipating anyone leaving. They wanted to add one NC and one VA to keep it balanced and have travel partners, but had no applicants from VA that met standards. Richmond United setup their whole Strikers/Kickers merger to position for second ECNL team, but the Blue Teams that are supposed to be the strongest, didn't finish consistently high enough in the standings and sometimes were not the best Richmond United team overall.

Richmond United never had any intention of making Blue teams a 2nd NL team. It was most likely something they told parents to stop losing kids to other clubs. Those teams are in 1st or 2nd place so the excuse that they didn't finish high enough in the standings is bs. most of their NL teams are at the bottom of their age groups, what's going on down there. The MA is middle tier at best and Richmond United NL doesn't produce.

Anonymous wrote:On girls side, no new teams being added from Virginia, and not anticipating anyone leaving. They wanted to add one NC and one VA to keep it balanced and have travel partners, but had no applicants from VA that met standards. Richmond United setup their whole Strikers/Kickers merger to position for second ECNL team, but the Blue Teams that are supposed to be the strongest, didn't finish consistently high enough in the standings and sometimes were not the best Richmond United team overall.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't MLS next and ECNL merge into one youth league so players in the DMV don't have to travel out of state? Makes no sense the way it is right now for customers.

That is happening in a way. Have you been tracking the news on US Soccer, USYS and Club Soccer? If not, may want to read up on it some. How, to what degree and when is subject to more information, but this appears to be the case.

Where does one read up on this?

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't MLS next and ECNL merge into one youth league so players in the DMV don't have to travel out of state? Makes no sense the way it is right now for customers.

That is happening in a way. Have you been tracking the news on US Soccer, USYS and Club Soccer? If not, may want to read up on it some. How, to what degree and when is subject to more information, but this appears to be the case.

Anonymous wrote:Why can't MLS next and ECNL merge into one youth league so players in the DMV don't have to travel out of state? Makes no sense the way it is right now for customers.

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If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.

ECNL parent here. I do understand travel is travel. BUT making players and parents drive to Ashville, NC for weekend game is ridiculous.

I don't think that the HFC club that is out there should have been given NL or even RL status (because of remoteness and the fact that they are not competitive at all). One of the frustrating things about ECNL is that they will allow a club like that in (and let's be honest, HFC is mid-level town travel club, which is fine but it is/was no where near ready for more than that) but will veto much better/larger clubs because they happen to be close to existing ECNL/RL clubs. It is short-sited and drove a bunch of clubs to MLSN2.

When I saw a club in Asheville was joining the MA, my heart sank and then I was filled with joy when I saw it was only on the boys side. Asheville is a freaking haul, even from Richmond.

It is not bad for a weekend event. I used to coach a team and go out to HFC's fall tournament. It was a lot of fun (we really only traveled out of town for that tournament) so the trip wasn't too bad and the HFC teams were semi-competitive (but would still lose to the middle level travel club I was at). I was shocked when when I saw they got RL and was floored with I saw NL. Not sure who they paid or how connected they must be but it is crazy.

If you were shocked HFC got RL, you were probably even more shocked they won or finished top 3 in 5 of the 6 age groups (winning in 3) in RL last year. Their 09s won the RL national finals to boot.

So it was about as cut and dried obvious to promote them to NL based on RL success as any club that moved up LY, other than maybe Kansas Rush.

They have gotten shellacked in the early going, no doubt. But they'll be fine in NL over the long run, assuming players/families can tolerate the travel, which is patently absurd for them and really everyone else in MA. They're experiencing the growing pains of moving up a level, it happens, the kids eventually get acclimated to the speed of the game and they're fine. Won't be any different here, it's a solid club.

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If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.

ECNL parent here. I do understand travel is travel. BUT making players and parents drive to Ashville, NC for weekend game is ridiculous.

I don't think that the HFC club that is out there should have been given NL or even RL status (because of remoteness and the fact that they are not competitive at all). One of the frustrating things about ECNL is that they will allow a club like that in (and let's be honest, HFC is mid-level town travel club, which is fine but it is/was no where near ready for more than that) but will veto much better/larger clubs because they happen to be close to existing ECNL/RL clubs. It is short-sited and drove a bunch of clubs to MLSN2.

When I saw a club in Asheville was joining the MA, my heart sank and then I was filled with joy when I saw it was only on the boys side. Asheville is a freaking haul, even from Richmond.

It is not bad for a weekend event. I used to coach a team and go out to HFC's fall tournament. It was a lot of fun (we really only traveled out of town for that tournament) so the trip wasn't too bad and the HFC teams were semi-competitive (but would still lose to the middle level travel club I was at). I was shocked when when I saw they got RL and was floored with I saw NL. Not sure who they paid or how connected they must be but it is crazy.

If you were shocked HFC got RL, you were probably even more shocked they won or finished top 3 in 5 of the 6 age groups (winning in 3) in RL last year. Their 09s won the RL national finals to boot.

So it was about as cut and dried obvious to promote them to NL based on RL success as any club that moved up LY, other than maybe Kansas Rush.

They have gotten shellacked in the early going, no doubt. But they'll be fine in NL over the long run, assuming players/families can tolerate the travel, which is patently absurd for them and really everyone else in MA. They're experiencing the growing pains of moving up a level, it happens, the kids eventually get acclimated to the speed of the game and they're fine. Won't be any different here, it's a solid club.

Anonymous wrote:On girls side, no new teams being added from Virginia, and not anticipating anyone leaving. They wanted to add one NC and one VA to keep it balanced and have travel partners, but had no applicants from VA that met standards. Richmond United setup their whole Strikers/Kickers merger to position for second ECNL team, but the Blue Teams that are supposed to be the strongest, didn't finish consistently high enough in the standings and sometimes were not the best Richmond United team overall.

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If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.

ECNL parent here. I do understand travel is travel. BUT making players and parents drive to Ashville, NC for weekend game is ridiculous.

I don't think that the HFC club that is out there should have been given NL or even RL status (because of remoteness and the fact that they are not competitive at all). One of the frustrating things about ECNL is that they will allow a club like that in (and let's be honest, HFC is mid-level town travel club, which is fine but it is/was no where near ready for more than that) but will veto much better/larger clubs because they happen to be close to existing ECNL/RL clubs. It is short-sited and drove a bunch of clubs to MLSN2.

When I saw a club in Asheville was joining the MA, my heart sank and then I was filled with joy when I saw it was only on the boys side. Asheville is a freaking haul, even from Richmond.

you are talking tournament. for Saturday game only and drving 6+ hours one way, that's ridiculous...
It is not bad for a weekend event. I used to coach a team and go out to HFC's fall tournament. It was a lot of fun (we really only traveled out of town for that tournament) so the trip wasn't too bad and the HFC teams were semi-competitive (but would still lose to the middle level travel club I was at). I was shocked when when I saw they got RL and was floored with I saw NL. Not sure who they paid or how connected they must be but it is crazy.