Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:51     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:I never imagined I’d ever have these thoughts but in all seriousness when do you say we’ve reached the point of no return. What will be the final straw for you? The next election could be too late.


I make my stand here. If the United States is messed up, the world is messed up. It’s my duty to be here and, if nothing else, be a decent person who will vote for sane things when I have a chance.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:50     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Naturalized citizen here. Sadly, the US has no history of meaningful civil protest, except for the Vietnam Era, and even that was not successful. So people have no clue how to protest, and their first thought is leaving.


The LGBTQ+ movement is the blueprint for meaningful civil protest in the US. Not just protest for modern media as a tool to educate and change attitudes.


NOT THE SAME.

We have never before lived in a time where federal forces can murder us in broad daylight with no repercussions. Where there is zero attempt to prosecute the people taking faked up warrants door to door to make arrests with weapons pointed at kids by entire militarized squadrons.

I would love hope. But I hate the idea that people are lazy or unaware of history they are terrified of protest. I truly don’t know what to do. There has never been a persistent danger of being murdered, being disappeared, or being deported without a trace at a massive scale, in this country and that is what’s going on.

If I were in Minnesota, the total failure of Walz, Frey, Klobuchar, Ellison, to do something, anything, to help - it’s just devastating. They are all afraid and they are now also all silent and complicit.


What are YOU doing, OP? It sounds like a bunch of people are just sitting around scared waiting for someone else to risk their lives. Those folks are doing what they can do. The truth is the voters and the public are just apathetic and keep giving Trump goons to do what he wants to do. No one wants to sacrifice even the smallest comfort.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:47     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Naturalized citizen here. Sadly, the US has no history of meaningful civil protest, except for the Vietnam Era, and even that was not successful. So people have no clue how to protest, and their first thought is leaving.


The LGBTQ+ movement is the blueprint for meaningful civil protest in the US. Not just protest for modern media as a tool to educate and change attitudes.


NOT THE SAME.

We have never before lived in a time where federal forces can murder us in broad daylight with no repercussions. Where there is zero attempt to prosecute the people taking faked up warrants door to door to make arrests with weapons pointed at kids by entire militarized squadrons.

I would love hope. But I hate the idea that people are lazy or unaware of history they are terrified of protest. I truly don’t know what to do. There has never been a persistent danger of being murdered, being disappeared, or being deported without a trace at a massive scale, in this country and that is what’s going on.

If I were in Minnesota, the total failure of Walz, Frey, Klobuchar, Ellison, to do something, anything, to help - it’s just devastating. They are all afraid and they are now also all silent and complicit.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:43     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:Where you going?


- out of California.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:42     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:Trump abolishes the Federal Reserve or takes it over with politics. At that point, US is univestible and everything tanks. A recession worse than the Great Depression.


He’s doing it. Did you see Powell’s video last night ??
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:37     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Naturalized citizen here. Sadly, the US has no history of meaningful civil protest, except for the Vietnam Era, and even that was not successful. So people have no clue how to protest, and their first thought is leaving.


The LGBTQ+ movement is the blueprint for meaningful civil protest in the US. Not just protest for modern media as a tool to educate and change attitudes.


It started before social media. Social media has changed everything.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:36     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:Well, about 95% of DC voters voted against this, yet here we are with Trump ruining our city, country, and world as a whole. Where are we supposed to go?


DC residents are used to surviving under occupation with no real voting rights
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:35     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:Naturalized citizen here. Sadly, the US has no history of meaningful civil protest, except for the Vietnam Era, and even that was not successful. So people have no clue how to protest, and their first thought is leaving.


The LGBTQ+ movement is the blueprint for meaningful civil protest in the US. Not just protest for modern media as a tool to educate and change attitudes.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:33     Subject: Re:When do you leave the sinking ship
There’s no where for most of us to go, folks. Time to buckle up and suit up, we’re in for a bumpy ride.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:28     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:Ah, the daily "doom and gloom" post. Love it.



Ah the typical maga moron.....hate you
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:28     Subject: Re:When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone ask why we have an alt right problem, and aim to address the root causes?


You go first. What's one root cause?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:27     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never imagined I’d ever have these thoughts but in all seriousness when do you say we’ve reached the point of no return. What will be the final straw for you? The next election could be too late.



I've been thinking a lot about this. This is not normal and we CANNOT normalize it.


What does that mean specifically?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:26     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:I never imagined I’d ever have these thoughts but in all seriousness when do you say we’ve reached the point of no return. What will be the final straw for you? The next election could be too late.



I've been thinking a lot about this. This is not normal and we CANNOT normalize it.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:16     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ll leave when I feel like the window to leave is closing and I am afraid for my family. At that point no sane person is going to be like BUT MY JOB AND MY SCHOOL!



+1. But hard to know when that is and where to go. For now trying to participate as much as possible here while also working on Plan B for various family members


Same.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2026 09:13     Subject: When do you leave the sinking ship
Anonymous wrote:I’ll leave when I feel like the window to leave is closing and I am afraid for my family. At that point no sane person is going to be like BUT MY JOB AND MY SCHOOL!



+1. But hard to know when that is and where to go. For now trying to participate as much as possible here while also working on Plan B for various family members