Anonymous
12/15/2025 20:25
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:no, nothing to legislate ... perfectly legal based on mutual consent and agreement
+1
I only *wish* my kid's top-choice school had ED!! What better way to express interest than by committing to go there?
Anonymous
12/15/2025 19:22
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ongoing antitrust lawsuit could put an end to it. Colleges, like any businesses, can't agree to restraints on trade. They can't agree to a particular deadline. And they coordinate to blacklist or punish a student who violates an ED agreement (which is not legally binding).
https://www.cohenmilstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Complaint-DAmico-v-Consortium-on-Financing-Higher-Education-August-8-2025.pdf
It’s not legally blinding but a college is never required to ever consider your application. So long as they aren’t discriminating, a college could arbitrarily decide applications submitted on wednesdays and sundays will be cut.
If it isn’t legally binding maybe my kid should just ED to 20 schools and treat it like EA.
That’s the issue. It’s the schools coordinating to enforce these nonbinding agreements that is the problem. If the schools find out you breached your ED agreement, they’ll retaliate and protect the ED school to protect ED as a whole.
Other than Tulane punishing that private school in Colorado, I have not really heard of this happening.
I have.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 19:19
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:It fills up the class early with people who got cash. Athletes as mentioned. Requires overcommitting behavior like an auction. Avoids competition. Jacks up prices…
Interesting. I bet it does elevate prices.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 19:06
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ongoing antitrust lawsuit could put an end to it. Colleges, like any businesses, can't agree to restraints on trade. They can't agree to a particular deadline. And they coordinate to blacklist or punish a student who violates an ED agreement (which is not legally binding).
https://www.cohenmilstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Complaint-DAmico-v-Consortium-on-Financing-Higher-Education-August-8-2025.pdf
It’s not legally blinding but a college is never required to ever consider your application. So long as they aren’t discriminating, a college could arbitrarily decide applications submitted on wednesdays and sundays will be cut.
If it isn’t legally binding maybe my kid should just ED to 20 schools and treat it like EA.
That’s the issue. It’s the schools coordinating to enforce these nonbinding agreements that is the problem. If the schools find out you breached your ED agreement, they’ll retaliate and protect the ED school to protect ED as a whole.
Other than Tulane punishing that private school in Colorado, I have not really heard of this happening.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 18:48
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ongoing antitrust lawsuit could put an end to it. Colleges, like any businesses, can't agree to restraints on trade. They can't agree to a particular deadline. And they coordinate to blacklist or punish a student who violates an ED agreement (which is not legally binding).
https://www.cohenmilstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Complaint-DAmico-v-Consortium-on-Financing-Higher-Education-August-8-2025.pdf
It’s not legally blinding but a college is never required to ever consider your application. So long as they aren’t discriminating, a college could arbitrarily decide applications submitted on wednesdays and sundays will be cut.
If it isn’t legally binding maybe my kid should just ED to 20 schools and treat it like EA.
That’s the issue. It’s the schools coordinating to enforce these nonbinding agreements that is the problem. If the schools find out you breached your ED agreement, they’ll retaliate and protect the ED school to protect ED as a whole.
Exactly. The argument that it isn’t legally binding is the thing I actually have the issue with.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 18:44
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ongoing antitrust lawsuit could put an end to it. Colleges, like any businesses, can't agree to restraints on trade. They can't agree to a particular deadline. And they coordinate to blacklist or punish a student who violates an ED agreement (which is not legally binding).
https://www.cohenmilstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Complaint-DAmico-v-Consortium-on-Financing-Higher-Education-August-8-2025.pdf
It’s not legally blinding but a college is never required to ever consider your application. So long as they aren’t discriminating, a college could arbitrarily decide applications submitted on wednesdays and sundays will be cut.
If it isn’t legally binding maybe my kid should just ED to 20 schools and treat it like EA.
That’s the issue. It’s the schools coordinating to enforce these nonbinding agreements that is the problem. If the schools find out you breached your ED agreement, they’ll retaliate and protect the ED school to protect ED as a whole.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 18:14
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:it's filling up college seats with athletes first. it's ridiculously obvious that athletes are priority one - far above rich people.
I actually see fewer issues with people who pay more getting first dibs. That happens in every business. I just dont why we care who can sail the fastest.
100% this is happening. Male athletes are taking up nearly HALF of male spots at SLACs. Those spots are gone before strong male students can apply. I'm not saying the male athletes aren't qualified but most of the rejected students at these SLACs are more than qualified and still there aren't any spots left for them. It's weird. It's particularly bad at places like Swarthmore, CMC, Haverford, Hamilton, etc.
It’s really clear why. Athletes tend to be economics majors and go into good careers, making them great alum. Could they accept the studious kid who’d make a great philosophy major and get into NYU for a PhD? Sure, but that person tends to not donate, makes less money, and tends to be less prideful of their LAC experience.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 18:11
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Why can’t I claim discrimination again me if the counselor uniquely won’t send my transcript to 20 schools but they will send another kids transcript to 20 schools? If ED isn’t legally binding aren’t we in the exact same situation and shouldn’t we be treated the same?
Anonymous
12/15/2025 18:06
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ongoing antitrust lawsuit could put an end to it. Colleges, like any businesses, can't agree to restraints on trade. They can't agree to a particular deadline. And they coordinate to blacklist or punish a student who violates an ED agreement (which is not legally binding).
https://www.cohenmilstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Complaint-DAmico-v-Consortium-on-Financing-Higher-Education-August-8-2025.pdf
It’s not legally blinding but a college is never required to ever consider your application. So long as they aren’t discriminating, a college could arbitrarily decide applications submitted on wednesdays and sundays will be cut.
If it isn’t legally binding maybe my kid should just ED to 20 schools and treat it like EA.
If you can find a guidance counselor who will release transcripts in that scenario, go for it. That will be your gating item.
Why should my guidance counselor constrain me. Don’t I have a legal right to my transcript?
Anonymous
12/15/2025 18:03
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ongoing antitrust lawsuit could put an end to it. Colleges, like any businesses, can't agree to restraints on trade. They can't agree to a particular deadline. And they coordinate to blacklist or punish a student who violates an ED agreement (which is not legally binding).
https://www.cohenmilstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Complaint-DAmico-v-Consortium-on-Financing-Higher-Education-August-8-2025.pdf
It’s not legally blinding but a college is never required to ever consider your application. So long as they aren’t discriminating, a college could arbitrarily decide applications submitted on wednesdays and sundays will be cut.
If it isn’t legally binding maybe my kid should just ED to 20 schools and treat it like EA.
If you can find a guidance counselor who will release transcripts in that scenario, go for it. That will be your gating item.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 17:39
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ongoing antitrust lawsuit could put an end to it. Colleges, like any businesses, can't agree to restraints on trade. They can't agree to a particular deadline. And they coordinate to blacklist or punish a student who violates an ED agreement (which is not legally binding).
https://www.cohenmilstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Complaint-DAmico-v-Consortium-on-Financing-Higher-Education-August-8-2025.pdf
It’s not legally blinding but a college is never required to ever consider your application. So long as they aren’t discriminating, a college could arbitrarily decide applications submitted on wednesdays and sundays will be cut.
If it isn’t legally binding maybe my kid should just ED to 20 schools and treat it like EA.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 17:38
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:What’s wrong with EA? Kids just need to get their act together but most public schools offer it and there’s nothing limiting kids from applying.
Agreed!
Anonymous
12/15/2025 17:34
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ongoing antitrust lawsuit could put an end to it. Colleges, like any businesses, can't agree to restraints on trade. They can't agree to a particular deadline. And they coordinate to blacklist or punish a student who violates an ED agreement (which is not legally binding).
https://www.cohenmilstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Complaint-DAmico-v-Consortium-on-Financing-Higher-Education-August-8-2025.pdf
This lawsuit has zero chance.
What's your basis? A similar lawsuit concerning coordination on financial aid need analysis formulas has gotten over $300 million in settlements, and the group coordinating disbanded...
Anonymous
12/15/2025 17:33
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ongoing antitrust lawsuit could put an end to it. Colleges, like any businesses, can't agree to restraints on trade. They can't agree to a particular deadline. And they coordinate to blacklist or punish a student who violates an ED agreement (which is not legally binding).
https://www.cohenmilstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Complaint-DAmico-v-Consortium-on-Financing-Higher-Education-August-8-2025.pdf
It’s not legally blinding but a college is never required to ever consider your application. So long as they aren’t discriminating, a college could arbitrarily decide applications submitted on wednesdays and sundays will be cut.
It's the coordination that's not acceptable and the anti competitive effects. The effect of the coordination amongst schools to enforce these agreements is to eliminate price competition (competition on financial aid and scholarships). You can't do horizontal restraints of trade like this.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 16:47
Subject: Would ED/EA ever end without legislation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ED is also great for those whose income is above QuestBridge but below the 200k financial aid cutoff (or a similar number). Only those with income around 50k above the cutoff are complaining. They are in the opposite of sweet spot. Hence the constant new threads wishing for the demise of ED.
Around 50k? That’s low income, easy to ED or even do Questbridge.
Read again. 50k above the cutoff, so roughly 250k.