Anonymous wrote:Wondering if this is helpful anywhere. Anticipating a rejection from Williams. Would be happy at something similar

Middlebury, Wesleyan, Vassar, Haverford.

How did this student make out at Williams?

Anonymous wrote:Look away from LACs - with athletes hogging many of the spots, it is a crapshoot for most kids who don't get that coach bump.

I would look at WashU. Really strong academics like Williams but offers a real opportunity in ED rounds (unlike Williams).

And nothing like an LAC. Bunch of nonsense. Look at Dartmouth if you want better chances and an LAC environment and don’t listen to fools.

Look away from LACs - with athletes hogging many of the spots, it is a crapshoot for most kids who don't get that coach bump.

I would look at WashU. Really strong academics like Williams but offers a real opportunity in ED rounds (unlike Williams).

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering if this is helpful anywhere. Anticipating a rejection from Williams. Would be happy at something similar

Not WASP-B. Almost any other SLAC it helps though. Midd: the U. of Chicago of SLACs.

Stop with the WASP-B nonsense already!

Bowdoin has a lower acceptance rate (6.8%) compared to these schools, including a lower ED acceptance rate (14.8%). USNWR ranks it above Pomona and its endowment is greater than Swarthmore. I don't care about an acronym but its a school that is definitely on par with the 4 that are represented in WASP.

My kid hoping for ED2.

I think it just doesn’t make sense to expand the WASP nonsense. It
was already not meant to represent the “best”- there’s about 10-15 LACs with the same stats, similar endowments per students, etc. why not Wellesley? Why not CMC or Carleton? It was just a simple grouping since students tend to apply across these colleges and they come up A LOT on dcum. Go back a literal year and Pomona had the lowest acceptance rate and higher rank and highest yield. Next year it might be Williams or Swarthmore. It’s all arbitrary.

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering if this is helpful anywhere. Anticipating a rejection from Williams. Would be happy at something similar

Not WASP-B. Almost any other SLAC it helps though. Midd: the U. of Chicago of SLACs.

Stop with the WASP-B nonsense already!

Bowdoin has a lower acceptance rate (6.8%) compared to these schools, including a lower ED acceptance rate (14.8%). USNWR ranks it above Pomona and its endowment is greater than Swarthmore. I don't care about an acronym but its a school that is definitely on par with the 4 that are represented in WASP.

My kid hoping for ED2.

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Anonymous wrote:Vandy ED2 is basically required for a RD admit.
They often defer to RD.

This makes zero sense. Kids apply to Vandy RD because they don’t want to be bound,

Yes, but look who gets into Vandy during RD (all the HYPSM kids - very top of the class). They try and calculate their yield with their ED2 deferrals to RD.

Examine your school's data and ask your CCO. Ours was very clear about the strategy.

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury ED2!

Middlebury is one of few that truly gives you a boost in ED.

100%, and it's an added boost if you indicate that you're fine with starting in either September or February.

+1 my unhooked DD got accepted to Midd ED2 after Bowdoin ED1 rejection. She indicated preference for Sept but okay with Feb and got in for Sept

Agree with this but you need to be very careful - Midd is a super tough admit. Your chances are better in ED2 than Regular, but still, the odds are very much stacked against you.

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury ED2!

Middlebury is one of few that truly gives you a boost in ED.

100%, and it's an added boost if you indicate that you're fine with starting in either September or February.

+1 my unhooked DD got accepted to Midd ED2 after Bowdoin ED1 rejection. She indicated preference for Sept but okay with Feb and got in for Sept

Anonymous wrote:Middlebury ED2!

Middlebury is one of few that truly gives you a boost in ED.

100%, and it's an added boost if you indicate that you're fine with starting in either September or February.

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury ED2!

Middlebury is one of few that truly gives you a boost in ED.

But then you have to go to Middlebury

And you would be incredibly lucky to do so. It's a great school.

Anonymous wrote:Vandy ED2 is basically required for a RD admit.
They often defer to RD.

This makes zero sense. Kids apply to Vandy RD because they don’t want to be bound,

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Anonymous wrote:My kid hoping for Swarthmore will ED2 to Wash U

Good luck to your kid OP! Hoping Williams comes through.

Hi fellow potential Swarthmore parent! My kid also hoping for Swat Friday would possibly ED2 to Bowdoin or Hamilton. Wash U is interesting - urban and bigger but a fantastic school of course. Good luck to your kid!

Good luck with SWAT. If it comes to that, do not ED2 to Bowdoin: ED2 apps need to go down a rung. Much better chances ED2 at WashU and then Hamilton (in that order).

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering if this is helpful anywhere. Anticipating a rejection from Williams. Would be happy at something similar

Not WASP-B. Almost any other SLAC it helps though. Midd: the U. of Chicago of SLACs.

Stop with the WASP-B nonsense already!

I'd appreciate this as well.

WASP-B
WASP-B
WASP-B

What school is this?

No clue what the B stands for. The WASP (I’ve learned this year from this site only) apparently stands for Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona. I guess it’s for private school rich kids who want to go to a tiny expensive college? I don’t know because I don’t run in circles where those schools are discussed. We’re just low class public school people.

it's Bowdoin. and FWIW, these tiny expensive schools usually have huge endowments per student and offer more aid than a lot of places. My kid got into BC with zero aid and Williams with 40k in aid last year.

Bowdoin needs to be mentioned for purposes of this thread because there is an ED disadvantage; it has a much lower unhooked ED admit rate and higher proportion of athletes in comparison to any “non-WASP” SLAC.

Anonymous wrote:My kid hoping for Swarthmore will ED2 to Wash U

Good luck to your kid OP! Hoping Williams comes through.

Hi fellow potential Swarthmore parent! My kid also hoping for Swat Friday would possibly ED2 to Bowdoin or Hamilton. Wash U is interesting - urban and bigger but a fantastic school of course. Good luck to your kid!