Anonymous wrote:I like how everyone here is just ok with this change. Has anyone asked how this helps the club? Basically the money from sponsorship never flows to the family and the discount you get is nothing.

They previously had a sponsorship with Speedo so it presumably works the same way, only I’m guessing the finances of the TYR sponsorship work better for the club. It’s a business, why would I get pressed about a club making good business decisions? If you have an issue with it, you are free to ask the main office. TYR in general, and not just using the NCAP discount, runs better deals than Speedo, so that works for me.

I like how everyone here is just ok with this change. Has anyone asked how this helps the club? Basically the money from sponsorship never flows to the family and the discount you get is nothing.

there is also the incentive to get a 25-30% discount on sponsored tech suits that you wouldn't get from other brands. but NCAP is not forcing their swimmers to wear TYR and the notion they wouldn't be able to swim at a championship meet is wildly untrue.

Anonymous wrote:My plan is to reclassify my DD on an annual basis until NCAP switches to a different sponsor.

You win.

My plan is to reclassify my DD on an annual basis until NCAP switches to a different sponsor.

Anonymous wrote:The idea of a kid being forced to buy and wear a certain brand of suit is ridiculous. They are not professional athletes or college athletes on scholarship that are being outfitted by a college-sponsored brand. This is NCAP saying, "hey, we are making $$ with a TYR partnership so you have to purchase their gear." This isn't even a team uniform. So dumb and not okay.

No one is forcing kids to buy and wear a tech suit at all, actually. And the regular-style team suit - in the team brand - is usually part of the outfitting package and/or the team gives a credit or discount to purchase. If a swimmer chooses to wear a tech suit, then they’re supposed to be in the sponsoring brand. That’s not new or remotely unique to NCAP. Tech suits in the sponsoring brand are often the most affordable anyway due to sponsor discounts.

Sorry NCAP parents.

This is nothing new in club swimming. All the clubs have partnerships with a swim manufacturer (speedo, arena, TYR) for the past 10 years at least. Look at the club backpacks to see which manufacturers support which clubs. There is also usually team “outfitting” included in fees. It is like a uniform for other sports.

Some clubs enforce and are strict about wearing tech suits from these manufacturers, some are looser about it than others.

Generally, I think the issue arises more at national level meets, where manufacturers are. I don’t think there is some TYR or Speedo or Arena rep walking around the PVS Nov Open meet.

Anonymous wrote:The idea of a kid being forced to buy and wear a certain brand of suit is ridiculous. They are not professional athletes or college athletes on scholarship that are being outfitted by a college-sponsored brand. This is NCAP saying, "hey, we are making $$ with a TYR partnership so you have to purchase their gear." This isn't even a team uniform. So dumb and not okay.

Not an NCAP parent. Touch grass, see the world. You’re worried about a youth sports organization making money off kids? NCAP must have invented this! They must be stopped!

It’s not a big deal. It’s not even a little deal. It’s fine; not sure why you think it’s not ok. It’s a nothing burger.

Anonymous wrote:The idea of a kid being forced to buy and wear a certain brand of suit is ridiculous. They are not professional athletes or college athletes on scholarship that are being outfitted by a college-sponsored brand. This is NCAP saying, "hey, we are making $$ with a TYR partnership so you have to purchase their gear." This isn't even a team uniform. So dumb and not okay.

the suit is the team uniform. I'm not an NCAP parent, but at our club if it's not a higher-level meet where folks are going to suit-up, you're expected to wear the team's sponsored brand. Now is the "rule" ruthlessly enforced? No. By and large, kids are wearing the suits of the club's sponsor if not in addition to all the sponsor's swag.

The idea of a kid being forced to buy and wear a certain brand of suit is ridiculous. They are not professional athletes or college athletes on scholarship that are being outfitted by a college-sponsored brand. This is NCAP saying, "hey, we are making $$ with a TYR partnership so you have to purchase their gear." This isn't even a team uniform. So dumb and not okay.

Anonymous wrote:Just a note to add that I ordered a suit directly from TYR and they were easy to work with on a return. I ordered a high waist by accident and they didn't even ask if it was tried on so assume they are lenient.

With my DS, i've never had a problem ordering/returning tech suits to either TYR directly or SwimOutlet. This is after trying them on and deciding the suit(s) weren't the best fit; never wore it in the water of course.

Just a note to add that I ordered a suit directly from TYR and they were easy to work with on a return. I ordered a high waist by accident and they didn't even ask if it was tried on so assume they are lenient.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure NCAP can legally enforce their TYR brand suit policy. How can you force a kid to wear a certain suit, especially if you aren’t providing them.

This is silly. The team can. It's a matter of if it wants to or not. The swimsuit is a uniform, just like any other sport. If the club contracts with a company to be the official outfitter of the club, the club risks penalties. Professional sports do this, colleges do this, high schools do this, club teams in other sports do this.

You cannot compare the fit of a tech suit to other sport uniforms.

If there is a legitimate fit issue you can obtain a waiver.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure NCAP can legally enforce their TYR brand suit policy. How can you force a kid to wear a certain suit, especially if you aren’t providing them.

This is silly. The team can. It's a matter of if it wants to or not. The swimsuit is a uniform, just like any other sport. If the club contracts with a company to be the official outfitter of the club, the club risks penalties. Professional sports do this, colleges do this, high schools do this, club teams in other sports do this.

You cannot compare the fit of a tech suit to other sport uniforms.

The amount of college athletes injured do to wearing incompatible footwear because a team is sponsored by Nike/Adidas/Reebok/Under Armour would prove you wildly incorrect.