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Anonymous wrote:Gradebook has been showing for 2 weeks that my kid has a missing assignment. Kid has asked the teacher about it several times as it's currently a 0 and dragging him down to a B. The teacher acknowledges that my kid turned it in, but teacher says he just hasn't graded it. Kid asked after class again today about it and the teacher gave a heavy sigh and said it's probably "in that stack" and pointed to what my kid described as a huge stack of papers. Kid said : you're sure you have it in there? Teacher said yes, and it would be graded on Monday. But if teacher doesn't have the paper, my kid has to just take a 0 and a B for the quarter because there is no time to dispute it? If kids have only 5 days to turn things in, teachers should also have deadlines to grade them.

So your kid saw the “huge stack” of papers.

Here’s the difference… your child is responsible for just one person: themselves. The teacher is responsible for 150-170 students. That “huge stack” of papers has to get graded at home. One assignment can take 5-6 hours to grade, and that’s just for one small stack. Your child saw a “huge” stack.

Teachers are drowning in after-hours work. Drowning.

This is a math class. The assignments do not take that long to grade. Teachers should not let a huge stack of papers pile up, they should be managing their workloads just like students -- and professionals in the working world -- are expected to.

I appreciate that argument. The problem is that most professionals receive time at work to complete work. Teachers don’t.

Those huge stacks of papers are completed at home. Therefore, grading papers competes with other obligations (feeding families, helping our own children, helping our elderly parents, etc).

No, it isn’t okay that students have to wait. But the real crime here is a situation in which grades compete with family obligations. If they were truly important, teachers would have more time at work to grade. But the system is set up to take advantage of well-meaning nurturers who will give up their time.

Most professionals work longer daily hours than teachers and many do have work to complete at home or are on call or answering emails all the time. The thread is about homework, which students spend time doing at home, while also juggling sports, extracurriculars, volunteering, family obligations and sometimes jobs. It is unrealistic for teachers to assign homework and then claim they aren’t responsible for doing any of their own homework.

Nobody said teachers aren’t responsible for doing it.

And I’m going to be honest with you: I doubt you know what a teacher’s workload looks like. If you did, you would not have posted what you did above. I may be in the building only 9 hours a day, but I’m working 13. And the emails never stop. I cut off replies at 9:30pm so I can rest, only to find more waiting in the AM. Every night.

+1 (not a teacher myself)

There are some professionals who work more hours than teachers but they are generally making several times as much

There are also professional who work more and earn less, especially county workers.

Regardless, don’t aging it if you aren’t going to grade it.

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Anonymous wrote:Gradebook has been showing for 2 weeks that my kid has a missing assignment. Kid has asked the teacher about it several times as it's currently a 0 and dragging him down to a B. The teacher acknowledges that my kid turned it in, but teacher says he just hasn't graded it. Kid asked after class again today about it and the teacher gave a heavy sigh and said it's probably "in that stack" and pointed to what my kid described as a huge stack of papers. Kid said : you're sure you have it in there? Teacher said yes, and it would be graded on Monday. But if teacher doesn't have the paper, my kid has to just take a 0 and a B for the quarter because there is no time to dispute it? If kids have only 5 days to turn things in, teachers should also have deadlines to grade them.

So your kid saw the “huge stack” of papers.

Here’s the difference… your child is responsible for just one person: themselves. The teacher is responsible for 150-170 students. That “huge stack” of papers has to get graded at home. One assignment can take 5-6 hours to grade, and that’s just for one small stack. Your child saw a “huge” stack.

Teachers are drowning in after-hours work. Drowning.

This is a math class. The assignments do not take that long to grade. Teachers should not let a huge stack of papers pile up, they should be managing their workloads just like students -- and professionals in the working world -- are expected to.

I appreciate that argument. The problem is that most professionals receive time at work to complete work. Teachers don’t.

Those huge stacks of papers are completed at home. Therefore, grading papers competes with other obligations (feeding families, helping our own children, helping our elderly parents, etc).

No, it isn’t okay that students have to wait. But the real crime here is a situation in which grades compete with family obligations. If they were truly important, teachers would have more time at work to grade. But the system is set up to take advantage of well-meaning nurturers who will give up their time.

Most professionals work longer daily hours than teachers and many do have work to complete at home or are on call or answering emails all the time. The thread is about homework, which students spend time doing at home, while also juggling sports, extracurriculars, volunteering, family obligations and sometimes jobs. It is unrealistic for teachers to assign homework and then claim they aren’t responsible for doing any of their own homework.

Nobody said teachers aren’t responsible for doing it.

And I’m going to be honest with you: I doubt you know what a teacher’s workload looks like. If you did, you would not have posted what you did above. I may be in the building only 9 hours a day, but I’m working 13. And the emails never stop. I cut off replies at 9:30pm so I can rest, only to find more waiting in the AM. Every night.

+1 (not a teacher myself)

There are some professionals who work more hours than teachers but they are generally making several times as much

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I think there should be a 1 week period between when the grades are due and the actual end of the quarter so any questionable grades can be attended to before the quarter is done. Just like students have a due date and a deadline, teachers should as well.
The last minute grading is not helpful for either party.

Agree completely. I think this is a common sense solution everyone can support. Does anyone know why this can’t be put into place?

Anecdotally, my kid’s 8th grade teachers sort of did this last year. They spent the last week grading during class while kids didn’t really cover new material and or have new graded assignments.

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Anonymous wrote:Gradebook has been showing for 2 weeks that my kid has a missing assignment. Kid has asked the teacher about it several times as it's currently a 0 and dragging him down to a B. The teacher acknowledges that my kid turned it in, but teacher says he just hasn't graded it. Kid asked after class again today about it and the teacher gave a heavy sigh and said it's probably "in that stack" and pointed to what my kid described as a huge stack of papers. Kid said : you're sure you have it in there? Teacher said yes, and it would be graded on Monday. But if teacher doesn't have the paper, my kid has to just take a 0 and a B for the quarter because there is no time to dispute it? If kids have only 5 days to turn things in, teachers should also have deadlines to grade them.

So your kid saw the “huge stack” of papers.

Here’s the difference… your child is responsible for just one person: themselves. The teacher is responsible for 150-170 students. That “huge stack” of papers has to get graded at home. One assignment can take 5-6 hours to grade, and that’s just for one small stack. Your child saw a “huge” stack.

Teachers are drowning in after-hours work. Drowning.

This is a math class. The assignments do not take that long to grade. Teachers should not let a huge stack of papers pile up, they should be managing their workloads just like students -- and professionals in the working world -- are expected to.

I appreciate that argument. The problem is that most professionals receive time at work to complete work. Teachers don’t.

Those huge stacks of papers are completed at home. Therefore, grading papers competes with other obligations (feeding families, helping our own children, helping our elderly parents, etc).

No, it isn’t okay that students have to wait. But the real crime here is a situation in which grades compete with family obligations. If they were truly important, teachers would have more time at work to grade. But the system is set up to take advantage of well-meaning nurturers who will give up their time.

Most professionals work longer daily hours than teachers and many do have work to complete at home or are on call or answering emails all the time. The thread is about homework, which students spend time doing at home, while also juggling sports, extracurriculars, volunteering, family obligations and sometimes jobs. It is unrealistic for teachers to assign homework and then claim they aren’t responsible for doing any of their own homework.

Nobody said teachers aren’t responsible for doing it.

And I’m going to be honest with you: I doubt you know what a teacher’s workload looks like. If you did, you would not have posted what you did above. I may be in the building only 9 hours a day, but I’m working 13. And the emails never stop. I cut off replies at 9:30pm so I can rest, only to find more waiting in the AM. Every night.

I think teacher workloads can really vary. The PE teachers are making just as much, but didn’t spend all day today reading and grading essays.

Quite true, which is why extending grace to those who have a much heavier workload seems a bit appropriate.

Then how about salaries based on responsibility and workload? No one can question that a PE teacher has far less responsibility and workload than general education teachers. The part that is really out of sync is special education teachers. Given the overwhelming amount of paperwork they are responsible for along with the challenges of their jobs, they should be given an additional stipend. Probably won't ever happen, but it could lead to a lot more retention of special educators who often leave the profession within 5 years. I know two young special educators who are considering leaving the profession after just four years, having nearly reached their breaking point.

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Anonymous wrote:Gradebook has been showing for 2 weeks that my kid has a missing assignment. Kid has asked the teacher about it several times as it's currently a 0 and dragging him down to a B. The teacher acknowledges that my kid turned it in, but teacher says he just hasn't graded it. Kid asked after class again today about it and the teacher gave a heavy sigh and said it's probably "in that stack" and pointed to what my kid described as a huge stack of papers. Kid said : you're sure you have it in there? Teacher said yes, and it would be graded on Monday. But if teacher doesn't have the paper, my kid has to just take a 0 and a B for the quarter because there is no time to dispute it? If kids have only 5 days to turn things in, teachers should also have deadlines to grade them.

So your kid saw the “huge stack” of papers.

Here’s the difference… your child is responsible for just one person: themselves. The teacher is responsible for 150-170 students. That “huge stack” of papers has to get graded at home. One assignment can take 5-6 hours to grade, and that’s just for one small stack. Your child saw a “huge” stack.

Teachers are drowning in after-hours work. Drowning.

This is a math class. The assignments do not take that long to grade. Teachers should not let a huge stack of papers pile up, they should be managing their workloads just like students -- and professionals in the working world -- are expected to.

I appreciate that argument. The problem is that most professionals receive time at work to complete work. Teachers don’t.

Those huge stacks of papers are completed at home. Therefore, grading papers competes with other obligations (feeding families, helping our own children, helping our elderly parents, etc).

No, it isn’t okay that students have to wait. But the real crime here is a situation in which grades compete with family obligations. If they were truly important, teachers would have more time at work to grade. But the system is set up to take advantage of well-meaning nurturers who will give up their time.

Most professionals work longer daily hours than teachers and many do have work to complete at home or are on call or answering emails all the time. The thread is about homework, which students spend time doing at home, while also juggling sports, extracurriculars, volunteering, family obligations and sometimes jobs. It is unrealistic for teachers to assign homework and then claim they aren’t responsible for doing any of their own homework.

Nobody said teachers aren’t responsible for doing it.

And I’m going to be honest with you: I doubt you know what a teacher’s workload looks like. If you did, you would not have posted what you did above. I may be in the building only 9 hours a day, but I’m working 13. And the emails never stop. I cut off replies at 9:30pm so I can rest, only to find more waiting in the AM. Every night.

I think teacher workloads can really vary. The PE teachers are making just as much, but didn’t spend all day today reading and grading essays.