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Anonymous wrote:No amount of driving is safe. Are you going to give up your car?

Driving has risks, but also provides a tremendous benefit for a whole lot of people, the majority of the time.

What benefit does drinking regularly provide for a whole lot of people, the majority of the time?

DP. It brings people together! Gets them out of their houses, loosens them up a bit, makes them talk to each other, laugh together. Yes, it can go horribly wrong in large amounts or for addiction prone people. But a little bit can be just plain fun.

We have a loneliness epidemic and a screen addiction epidemic. Anything to get people out laughing together is ok with me!

Anonymous wrote:No amount of driving is safe. Are you going to give up your car?

Driving has risks, but also provides a tremendous benefit for a whole lot of people, the majority of the time.

What benefit does drinking regularly provide for a whole lot of people, the majority of the time?

Anonymous wrote:No amount of driving is safe. Are you going to give up your car?

Would love to actually

Americans drink a lot. Just an observation but you feel drink like whales

Anonymous wrote:New study: Life'll kill ya.

No one gets out alive.

I think soon we’ll see that the underlying cause for dementia and many other diseases come from inflammation, particularly sustained inflammation. Alcohol is a toxin, no question, and certainly causes inflammation. I found Andrew Huberman’s podcast on the topic very enlightening. I’ve been a problem drinker since my teens but drastically reduced my intake after listening. I’ll only drink one or two drinks a month at most now. Everything in my life has improved as a result. Everything.

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Anonymous wrote:I rarely drink but I just don’t get this. Italians Spaniards and the French all drink socially on a very regular basis. If this were true, they would have much higher rates of dementia. But they don’t seem to. Is it possible that people in the U.S. that drink regularly also tend to eat a diet that increases risk of dementia?

You would need to control for the population level frequency of the APOE4 gene to attempt to make a country by country comparison. Northern European countries generally have a higher population frequency of the APoE4 than southern European countries.

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Anonymous wrote:I rarely drink but I just don’t get this. Italians Spaniards and the French all drink socially on a very regular basis. If this were true, they would have much higher rates of dementia. But they don’t seem to. Is it possible that people in the U.S. that drink regularly also tend to eat a diet that increases risk of dementia?

You would need to control for the population level frequency of the APOE4 gene to attempt to make a country by country comparison. Northern European countries generally have a higher population frequency of the APoE4 than southern European countries.

No amount of driving is safe. Are you going to give up your car?

Anonymous wrote:DCUM: Alcohol is fine, but Diet Coke will kill you. Never change.....

I think what people are saying is that neither will literally kill you. Both increase your risk level of certain diseases that may be fatal or contribute to your demise, but everyone dies at some point.

DCUM: Alcohol is fine, but Diet Coke will kill you. Never change.....

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Anonymous wrote:Is there more dementia in countries with citizens who are known to drink more (the UK for example)?

There is some overlap but it’s not a direct correlation. The highest rates of dementia per the WHO are:

Finland: 10.6%
Sweden: 10.4%
United Kingdom: 9.0%
France: 8.9%
Germany: 8.8%

The highest rates of alcoholism is:
Lebanon
The Uk
Peru
Finland
Togo

Dementia is a rich country problem. You need long lived populations + extensive proactive healthcare for diagnoses and reliable data. I wouldn't pay much attention to this.

Alcohol in excess is problematic. A moderate intake is not.

- drinks on average once a month and has no real interest in alcohol.

Work and stress are bad for you too....Rich Americans have diets that aren't all that terrible and they work out, but they work too much. Sleep and being with friends is important. Having a drink with a friend is probably better for your health than being a spun up workaholic/work out nut...

Anonymous wrote:I rarely drink but I just don’t get this. Italians Spaniards and the French all drink socially on a very regular basis. If this were true, they would have much higher rates of dementia. But they don’t seem to. Is it possible that people in the U.S. that drink regularly also tend to eat a diet that increases risk of dementia?

Bingo!!

IMO, that is very likely the case. Go to Italy, France and Spain---do you see 40% of the population as overweight/obese? Nope! They eat much healthier, they exercise simply "doing daily life" as they walk much more, and they don't overeat.

I figure, I eat healthy, walk 10-15K daily sometime more, get 7-8+ hours of sleep 6out of 7 days, never smoked, never done "drugs". I've never been overweight (most was for the 1-2 years post having a kid where I held onto 15-20 lbs, which disappeared once I stopped breastfeeding each kid). My only real vices are dark chocolate and wine. Sure, it might cut a few years off my life, but I prefer to enjoy my life as well. I also figure, if you do 95% of life very healthy, then you can cheat a bit with a few "risks" that give you great pleasure.

But if you are going to have 2-3 drinks daily AND get only 1K steps, sleep for 4-5 hours, smoke, smoke weed, do some recreational drugs, and be 40+lbs overweight, well then you might see more detrimental effects on your life.