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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question …
Is it harder to get into Wisconsin for engineering than to get into Harvard engineering?
Harder to get into Purdue engineering than Columbia gnegineering?
I just find it really challenging to built a “target” or “reach” list for engineering schools. I don’t really have a sense of how hard it is to get into those top 30 engineering schools.

It's significantly harder to get into Harvard or Columbia for engineering than Purdue or Wisconsin, simply because the Ivy League schools are more selective overall. However, most of the top 30 public engineering schools, like Purdue and Wisconsin are accessible to strong students. My current freshman was accepted at several of the Big 10 engineering schools but wouldn't have had a shot at an Ivy.

That's very comforting -- thanks. I know my kid doesn't have a shot at any of the Ivys, but I am just having a really hard time gauging whether he has any shot at any of these better engineering schools that are located at universities that are usually considered somewhat less selective. The list we've generated is already incredibly long because I really don't know how to handicap the odds since things like Naviance aren't specific for the engineering school versus arts/sciences.
If anyone has any suggestions for how to figure this out for engineering, I'd be really happy to hear it.

If your kid has the stats to be competitive at Harvard then they will get into Wisconsin and Purdue for School of Engineering. Those schools are close t0 around a 40% or a bit less for an admission rate.

Not for out of state engineering. It’s closer to 15-20%. Lower for the top schools

umich - 13%
Ga tech - 10%
Berkley - 7%

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question …
Is it harder to get into Wisconsin for engineering than to get into Harvard engineering?
Harder to get into Purdue engineering than Columbia gnegineering?
I just find it really challenging to built a “target” or “reach” list for engineering schools. I don’t really have a sense of how hard it is to get into those top 30 engineering schools.

It's significantly harder to get into Harvard or Columbia for engineering than Purdue or Wisconsin, simply because the Ivy League schools are more selective overall. However, most of the top 30 public engineering schools, like Purdue and Wisconsin are accessible to strong students. My current freshman was accepted at several of the Big 10 engineering schools but wouldn't have had a shot at an Ivy.

That's very comforting -- thanks. I know my kid doesn't have a shot at any of the Ivys, but I am just having a really hard time gauging whether he has any shot at any of these better engineering schools that are located at universities that are usually considered somewhat less selective. The list we've generated is already incredibly long because I really don't know how to handicap the odds since things like Naviance aren't specific for the engineering school versus arts/sciences.
If anyone has any suggestions for how to figure this out for engineering, I'd be really happy to hear it.

If your kid has the stats to be competitive at Harvard then they will get into Wisconsin and Purdue for School of Engineering. Those schools are close t0 around a 40% or a bit less for an admission rate.

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question …
Is it harder to get into Wisconsin for engineering than to get into Harvard engineering?
Harder to get into Purdue engineering than Columbia gnegineering?
I just find it really challenging to built a “target” or “reach” list for engineering schools. I don’t really have a sense of how hard it is to get into those top 30 engineering schools.

It's significantly harder to get into Harvard or Columbia for engineering than Purdue or Wisconsin, simply because the Ivy League schools are more selective overall. However, most of the top 30 public engineering schools, like Purdue and Wisconsin are accessible to strong students. My current freshman was accepted at several of the Big 10 engineering schools but wouldn't have had a shot at an Ivy.

That's very comforting -- thanks. I know my kid doesn't have a shot at any of the Ivys, but I am just having a really hard time gauging whether he has any shot at any of these better engineering schools that are located at universities that are usually considered somewhat less selective. The list we've generated is already incredibly long because I really don't know how to handicap the odds since things like Naviance aren't specific for the engineering school versus arts/sciences.
If anyone has any suggestions for how to figure this out for engineering, I'd be really happy to hear it.

Anonymous wrote:Surprised Cornell isn't in the top 3.

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Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question …
Is it harder to get into Wisconsin for engineering than to get into Harvard engineering?
Harder to get into Purdue engineering than Columbia gnegineering?
I just find it really challenging to built a “target” or “reach” list for engineering schools. I don’t really have a sense of how hard it is to get into those top 30 engineering schools.

It's significantly harder to get into Harvard or Columbia for engineering than Purdue or Wisconsin, simply because the Ivy League schools are more selective overall. However, most of the top 30 public engineering schools, like Purdue and Wisconsin are accessible to strong students. My current freshman was accepted at several of the Big 10 engineering schools but wouldn't have had a shot at an Ivy.

Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question …
Is it harder to get into Wisconsin for engineering than to get into Harvard engineering?
Harder to get into Purdue engineering than Columbia gnegineering?
I just find it really challenging to built a “target” or “reach” list for engineering schools. I don’t really have a sense of how hard it is to get into those top 30 engineering schools.

Anonymous wrote:So here’s my question …
Is it harder to get into Wisconsin for engineering than to get into Harvard engineering?
Harder to get into Purdue engineering than Columbia gnegineering?
I just find it really challenging to built a “target” or “reach” list for engineering schools. I don’t really have a sense of how hard it is to get into those top 30 engineering schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Digging Deeper into the Engineering rankings. Cal Tech is not at Top for many disciplines.

Chemical Engineering

1.MIT
2.Georgia Tech

Biomedical Engineering

1. Georgia Tech
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Duke

Aerospace Engineering

1.MIT
2.Georgia Tech

Electrical Engineering

1.UC Berkely
2.MIT
3.Georgia Tech
4.Stanford

Civil Engineering

1.UC Berkely
2.Georgia Tech

Industrial Engineering

1.Georgia Tech

Environmental Engineering

1.Georgia Tech
2.UC Berkely

Mechanical Engineering

1.MIT
2.Stanford
3.Cal Berkely
4.Georgia Tech

What stands out to me is that Georgia Tech shows up in each disclipine. Yet, in the OP, MIT and Stanford come in ahead of Ga Tech. But they don't show up as 1 or 2 in the rankings by discipline.

Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

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Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Based on these rankings, Harvard and Penn State are tied so if you got into both the Harvard name cache would probably put it over the edge.

But here's a real world example that's recent: my neighbor's DS got into Purdue and Dartmouth last Spring for engineering and chose Purdue. Purdue is ranked higher for engineering but some think because Dartmouth is an ivy that it's better period. Our neighbors went for engineering excellence over general pedigree.

I love the "my neighbor" "some think". Always reliable. Do you know a person that recruits for a Top Engineering firm at these schools. That may be more substantive. BTW Purdue is not a school that is at the Top for Engineering. A Good school for sure but not great. Try again. https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering/

Well, c'mon . . . Purdue is VERY good at engineering. Be reasonable.

Exactly. PP's aggressive response was truly unwarranted. This person clearly does not understand what s/he's talking about!

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Anonymous wrote:Yea, ok, so how many kids do you know who turn down Harvard for Penn State for engineering?

I'll answer: zero.

Because of all the rankings that don't matter, it's the engineering undergrad rankings. You go to any one of these schools -- or the next 30 for that matter -- and get through the program, and you'll get a great job.

Based on these rankings, Harvard and Penn State are tied so if you got into both the Harvard name cache would probably put it over the edge.

But here's a real world example that's recent: my neighbor's DS got into Purdue and Dartmouth last Spring for engineering and chose Purdue. Purdue is ranked higher for engineering but some think because Dartmouth is an ivy that it's better period. Our neighbors went for engineering excellence over general pedigree.

I love the "my neighbor" "some think". Always reliable. Do you know a person that recruits for a Top Engineering firm at these schools. That may be more substantive. BTW Purdue is not a school that is at the Top for Engineering. A Good school for sure but not great. Try again. https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering/

Well, c'mon . . . Purdue is VERY good at engineering. Be reasonable.

Anonymous wrote:Digging Deeper into the Engineering rankings. Cal Tech is not at Top for many disciplines.

Chemical Engineering

1.MIT
2.Georgia Tech

Biomedical Engineering

1. Georgia Tech
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Duke

Aerospace Engineering

1.MIT
2.Georgia Tech

Electrical Engineering

1.UC Berkely
2.MIT
3.Georgia Tech
4.Stanford

Civil Engineering

1.UC Berkely
2.Georgia Tech

Industrial Engineering

1.Georgia Tech

Environmental Engineering

1.Georgia Tech
2.UC Berkely

Mechanical Engineering

1.MIT
2.Stanford
3.Cal Berkely
4.Georgia Tech