Anonymous wrote:Earning an MBA at a Top 15 MBA program can be expensive, but the job opportunities are unequaled elsewhere speaking broadly. Most MBA students at Top 15 programs have the option to earn about $40,000 from an internship during the summer between their first & second year of the MBA degree program. Some employers will pay tuition & fees for an MBA's second year if the internet accepts an offer of permanent employment after completion of the degree.

Some employers will reimburse costs of a part-time MBA program for current employees. If one's desire is to remain with that employer, then almost any local MBA program may work in that situation.

Anonymous wrote:Would be better if the business school at SUNY New Paltz offered a few business courses at nearby Vassar College or if the expedited program for those with no post undergraduate real world work experience was a certificate program, not an MBA program.

Just as shocking is that the Vassar College recent grads who immediately grab a SUNY New Paltz MBA will receive preferential consideration for teaching assistant positions at SUNY New Paltz. Is this a case of the blind leading the blind ?

Vassar College is a respected school. My thought is that parents of Vassar College students and the students do not attend such an expensive and selective school in order to get an MBA from a program with very low standards for admission. As the inexperienced Vassar/New Paltz MBA degree holders get experience in the post undergraduate working world, they may discover that they have handicapped their future career pursuits with this premature degree from a sub-standard MBA program and crippled. any future eligibility to earn a real MBA from a well respected program.

Doesn't this seem to be an admission from Vassar College that a Vassar education is insufficient for their graduates to enter the post undergraduate working world ? If so, then those Vassar College students who pursue the New Paltz MBA most likely would have been better prepared for the real world by earning an undergraduate business degree elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Will the effect of this joint effort be to cheapen both Vassar College degrees and MBA degrees ?

Several elite universities (U Chicago, Northwestern, U Michigan, Johns Hopkins, and others) offer nine-to-ten-month MIM (Masters in Management) degrees for recent college graduates with less than two years of post undergraduate work experience. Hundreds of universities offer certificate programs through continuing education arms that enable students to earn a certificate in business or in a specialty area in order to be better prepared for the working world. Some will even count credits earned in the one academic year masters in management program toward their MBA degree after the students get real world work experience and otherwise qualify for the school's MBA program.

Hopefully, someone with better sense will counsel Vassar College students and recent graduates of Vassar that getting a degree from an unranked, non-selective MBA program immediately after finishing an undergraduate liberal arts degree may be an unwise use of the graduate's time,money,and other resources.

Sigh. You guys really don’t get it, do you? All you think about is chasing rank determined by entities that desperately need you people to buy into their rankings to financially stay afloat.

For people into education you consistently miss the point of education.

I think it’s a great idea.

It is clear that you miss the point of earning an MBA degree.

Please explain it to me then.

But I’ll give you one great reason for MBA programs - it is for schools to make a sh!t load of money on another set of students coming back for another 2 years of overpriced education

OMG you must be associated with this venture between Vassar College and SUNY New Paltz.

Google: Why earn an MBA and please reread what I have written above.

Very little to be gained from an MBA experience for those without real world post undergraduate work experience.

FWIW The top MBA programs offer the most value in terms of career options within one's prior field or in an alternate field if one's experience has led them to seek such opportunities.

The program designed by Vassar College & SUNY New Paltz MBA is little more than continuing & supplementing one's insufficient undergraduate experience while sacrificing future options & opportunities by earning a virtually worthless degree from a substandard, unranked, non-selective program.

Huh? I’m basically saying colleges are over priced. I’m not associated with anything. But you are very married to the idea that this is a bad idea. Why do you care?

And I’ll remind you again that your focus on brand and rank is silly

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Anonymous wrote:Readers may find the list of 133 MBA programs ranked by US News to be of interest (SUNY-New Paltz is unranked). #61 CUNY-Baruch is a great bargain for New York residents at $16,130 per academic year. #73 Babson College is great for certain specialties such an Entrepreneurship.

A Vassar College grad with a few years of work experience and a decent standardized test score (GRE or GMAT) and a solid reason for wanting to attend an MBA program should have options within the top 30 or so MBA programs.

https://usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

Has the U Michigan undergrad accelerated MBA program always been considered elite? I know it is now, but was it 30 years ago?

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Anonymous wrote:Will the effect of this joint effort be to cheapen both Vassar College degrees and MBA degrees ?

Several elite universities (U Chicago, Northwestern, U Michigan, Johns Hopkins, and others) offer nine-to-ten-month MIM (Masters in Management) degrees for recent college graduates with less than two years of post undergraduate work experience. Hundreds of universities offer certificate programs through continuing education arms that enable students to earn a certificate in business or in a specialty area in order to be better prepared for the working world. Some will even count credits earned in the one academic year masters in management program toward their MBA degree after the students get real world work experience and otherwise qualify for the school's MBA program.

Hopefully, someone with better sense will counsel Vassar College students and recent graduates of Vassar that getting a degree from an unranked, non-selective MBA program immediately after finishing an undergraduate liberal arts degree may be an unwise use of the graduate's time,money,and other resources.

Sigh. You guys really don’t get it, do you? All you think about is chasing rank determined by entities that desperately need you people to buy into their rankings to financially stay afloat.

For people into education you consistently miss the point of education.

I think it’s a great idea.

It is clear that you miss the point of earning an MBA degree.

Please explain it to me then.

But I’ll give you one great reason for MBA programs - it is for schools to make a sh!t load of money on another set of students coming back for another 2 years of overpriced education

OMG you must be associated with this venture between Vassar College and SUNY New Paltz.

Google: Why earn an MBA and please reread what I have written above.

Very little to be gained from an MBA experience for those without real world post undergraduate work experience.

FWIW The top MBA programs offer the most value in terms of career options within one's prior field or in an alternate field if one's experience has led them to seek such opportunities.

The program designed by Vassar College & SUNY New Paltz MBA is little more than continuing & supplementing one's insufficient undergraduate experience while sacrificing future options & opportunities by earning a virtually worthless degree from a substandard, unranked, non-selective program.

Huh? I’m basically saying colleges are over priced. I’m not associated with anything. But you are very married to the idea that this is a bad idea. Why do you care?

And I’ll remind you again that your focus on brand and rank is silly

Anonymous wrote:Readers may find the list of 133 MBA programs ranked by US News to be of interest (SUNY-New Paltz is unranked). #61 CUNY-Baruch is a great bargain for New York residents at $16,130 per academic year. #73 Babson College is great for certain specialties such an Entrepreneurship.

A Vassar College grad with a few years of work experience and a decent standardized test score (GRE or GMAT) and a solid reason for wanting to attend an MBA program should have options within the top 30 or so MBA programs.

https://usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

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Anonymous wrote:Will the effect of this joint effort be to cheapen both Vassar College degrees and MBA degrees ?

Several elite universities (U Chicago, Northwestern, U Michigan, Johns Hopkins, and others) offer nine-to-ten-month MIM (Masters in Management) degrees for recent college graduates with less than two years of post undergraduate work experience. Hundreds of universities offer certificate programs through continuing education arms that enable students to earn a certificate in business or in a specialty area in order to be better prepared for the working world. Some will even count credits earned in the one academic year masters in management program toward their MBA degree after the students get real world work experience and otherwise qualify for the school's MBA program.

Hopefully, someone with better sense will counsel Vassar College students and recent graduates of Vassar that getting a degree from an unranked, non-selective MBA program immediately after finishing an undergraduate liberal arts degree may be an unwise use of the graduate's time,money,and other resources.

Sigh. You guys really don’t get it, do you? All you think about is chasing rank determined by entities that desperately need you people to buy into their rankings to financially stay afloat.

For people into education you consistently miss the point of education.

I think it’s a great idea.

It is clear that you miss the point of earning an MBA degree.

Please explain it to me then.

But I’ll give you one great reason for MBA programs - it is for schools to make a sh!t load of money on another set of students coming back for another 2 years of overpriced education

OMG you must be associated with this venture between Vassar College and SUNY New Paltz.

Google: Why earn an MBA and please reread what I have written above.

Very little to be gained from an MBA experience for those without real world post undergraduate work experience.

FWIW The top MBA programs offer the most value in terms of career options within one's prior field or in an alternate field if one's experience has led them to seek such opportunities.

The program designed by Vassar College & SUNY New Paltz MBA is little more than continuing & supplementing one's insufficient undergraduate experience while sacrificing future options & opportunities by earning a virtually worthless degree from a substandard, unranked, non-selective program.

Anonymous wrote:Vassar wants/needs to attract more male undergrads (currently 65/35-ish ratio).