Anonymous
08/12/2025 20:35
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the PP that said they would suggest the rule change on tech suits (please). Are you a team rep? The rule has to be proposed by a team rep or a league member.
Yes I am. I wasn’t going to propose it, but am working it up now.
Would your team rep propose it?
Can anyone get their rep to propose it?
Along with the false start rule, I will strongly oppose it.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 20:18
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the PP that said they would suggest the rule change on tech suits (please). Are you a team rep? The rule has to be proposed by a team rep or a league member.
Yes I am. I wasn’t going to propose it, but am working it up now.
Would your team rep propose it?
Can anyone get their rep to propose it?
Anonymous
08/12/2025 20:02
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Anonymous wrote:Agree. If we host, we can start at 8am.
Yeah, 8 am would work too.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 20:02
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Anonymous wrote:Mandate teams follow the ladder for divisionals and divisional relays selection.
That’s an inter team issue. NVSL has no jurisdiction on how teams decided to seed meets.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 19:28
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Mandate teams follow the ladder for divisionals and divisional relays selection.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 19:17
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Anonymous wrote:For the PP that said they would suggest the rule change on tech suits (please). Are you a team rep? The rule has to be proposed by a team rep or a league member.
Yes I am. I wasn’t going to propose it, but am working it up now.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 18:41
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
For the PP that said they would suggest the rule change on tech suits (please). Are you a team rep? The rule has to be proposed by a team rep or a league member.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 18:36
Subject: Re:What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this would involve a rule change, but they should NOT have an A meet on July 4th. Our team will have to forfeit if we are asked to host a meet that day because our pool won't let us open late. I doubt we are the only team in that situation.
I asked our team rep about this and she told me that she already plans ask the other team to hold (or we will hold) the meet on the Federal Friday (3rd) instead of the 4th. This is allowable by the rules and will solve a number of problems and make it easier for families to go out of town.
+1 great idea and I support this over Sunday.
If we want to honor the spirit of summer swim, we shouldn’t force half the pools to be closed on the biggest day of the summer.
Next year won't be the first time in the history of the NVSL that July 4th happened to fall on a Saturday. Just like a leap year, old timers know how to handle this situation.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 18:27
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Agree. If we host, we can start at 8am.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 16:07
Subject: Re:What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this would involve a rule change, but they should NOT have an A meet on July 4th. Our team will have to forfeit if we are asked to host a meet that day because our pool won't let us open late. I doubt we are the only team in that situation.
We open at 11 on a regular schedule, so we’d probably just start the meet at 8:30 instead of 9.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 15:16
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a rule change, but I’d also love to see Nvsl update their standard documents. Do we really still need to remind people before every meet to silence their pagers? Or tell the timers not to smoke on deck?
Agreed - but I also take these words with a bit of license (I am the announcer in my pool & Division).
For example, I omit the pagers part,
I substitute ‘phones and devices’ and I also emphasize the silence after the whistle. You just have to find the right words for your pool.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 15:11
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Anonymous wrote:I’d love to see swim shirts allowed. I’ve been a referee for about a decade and I’ve had to dq two different 8 and under boys who refused to take off a swim shirt. It was clearly not a competitive advantage, if anything made the kid slower with drag, but is a violation of the uniform rule for boys suits.
Obviously, I’m in a lower division and I’m sure this isn’t an issue in D1. I know the swim suit rules exist to eliminate the full body super fast swim suits, but I hate that it prevents a little kid from wearing the sun shirt they are comfortable in.
I think this is a great idea. It makes sense for USA swimming to have their rules, but there’s no need for rec swim to be as strict.
I think it was a miss by USA swimming to have chosen 12U instead of 14U for banning tech suits. 14U would have been a natural cutoff given the transition between age group swimming and senior swimming. The current exception to allow tech suits for younger swimmers at jr national level meets and above would still be as effective. I’m sure the suit companies had a say in this.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 14:39
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
Anonymous wrote:We should also ban racing goggles because they provide a clear advantage over recreational goggles. Some goggles cost over a hundred dollars. This isn't fair for the swimmers who can't afford them.
Racing goggles can be worn more than 2-3 times and still retain their "effectiveness". In addition, they don't have the same perception as tech suits do with poor sportsmanship.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 14:11
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
We should also ban racing goggles because they provide a clear advantage over recreational goggles. Some goggles cost over a hundred dollars. This isn't fair for the swimmers who can't afford them.
Anonymous
08/12/2025 13:28
Subject: What rule changes should NVSL do for next year?
I think part of the problem (as evidenced by inaccurate comments ostensibly from parents of summer only swimmers about 12 and under higher division swimmers wearing “tech suits”) is that non-club parents see kneeskins and automatically think “tech suits.” We need to normalize calling approved 13+ suits “tech suits” and 12&U approved suits “kneeskins,” at least on the girls side. Nobody can tell the difference from a glance about boys’ suits.