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Anonymous wrote:The good news is that the federal government is pursuing this case. He got a very light sentence in CA for killing two innocent people. Then, that light sentence was made even more lenient by releasing him after only 3 1/2 years. Just think - the lives of these two innocent people burned alive was worth 3 1/2 years. But because this migrant has been deported and entered illegally again, he has committed a felony and the federal government will pursue those charges in order to deliver justice.

UPDATE: Oscar Eduardo Ortega, 43, of Mexico, was arraigned today in U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, where he pleaded not guilty to one count of being an illegal alien found in the United States following deportation. A federal magistrate judge ordered him jailed without bond. Trial is scheduled for September 8.

After being deported to Mexico twice, he returned to our country, where he killed two young people in a DUI accident and where he served only 3½ years out of a 10-year sentence in California state prison. Governor Newsom let down the victims’ families by allowing this criminal to be released from prison after barely serving a third of his sentence. The state of the criminal justice system in California is dire, the prisons are being emptied at lighting speed. Thankfully, the federal government is able to step in and help deliver justice for the victims and their families in this case.

Call us when he’s part of an international child rape ring like certain other people.

I’m not sure what point you think you are making here, that sometimes they accidentally catch an actual criminal?

Ok, participation trophy for you.

The point is that at least someone is seeking justice for these victims who were killed by this illegal alien. If California refuses to ensure the safety of citizens it is up to the federal government to do so.

What is this bogus "at least someone is seeking justice" narrative? Why do you insist on repeating this FALSE NARRATIVE that somehow liberals give illegals a pass if they commit serious crimes? Like, state and local police arrive on the scene of a rape or murder and put the guy in cuffs but then when they discover he's an illegal just say "oh, it's OK, you can walk" and uncuff him and send him on his merry way? Or that the judge says "oh, I see you're an illegal alien, so all charges are dismissed and have a nice day?"

You are absolutely deranged with your repeated insistence that illegal aliens who commit felonies are given a pass by liberals. It's absolutely and demonstrably false. Here for example are two illegal aliens who were ARRESTED, CHARGED, TRIED, CONVICTED and SENT TO PRISON in deep blue New York City, and later turned over to ICE: https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-buffalo-arrests-mexican-criminal-aliens-felony-convictions

The very people you claim give illegals a pass are the ones who did the arresting, charging, trial, conviction and imprisonment before ICE even showed up on the scene to collect them for deportation.

So STOP STOP STOP your nonsense claims that liberals don't support going after felons who are illegal aliens. They support going after ALL felons, regardless of citizenship status. Get it right, and stop your constant lying and false narratives.

I just posted this in another thread. Tell us that liberals are all in on arresting criminal illegal aliens. Their actions prove otherwise.....

We have so many examples of illegal aliens, especially in sanctuary cities and states, who have been charged AND CONVICTED of crimes, yet instead of ensuring they are deported, they allow them to walk the streets. Just like the guy above with 67 bookings (look up the case of Javier Dimas-Alcantar). Why was he allowed out on the streets again and again when authorities KNEW he was present illegally, had been ordered deported twice, and continued to commit crimes?

And, then there is the case of Wisconsin Judge Dugan who assisted an illegal alien escape the courthouse during a hearing in which he was facing criminal charges of strangulation, battery, suffocation, and domestic abuse. He had previously been deported and reentered the US, a felony.
I don't recall any elected official expressing outrage at the actions of Judge Dugan.

And, just one more local example..... the case of David Cabrera in Arlington, VA.......

Guatemala national David Cabrera was collared by ICE last week after being set free by sanctuary-aligned jurisdiction Arlington County, who refused to honor a federal detainer and released him without notifying ICE.

In a video obtained by Fox News, Cabrera is seen roaming a local street before ICE agents initiate his arrest.

Cabrera entered the U.S. illegally in 2014 and was convicted of felony rape in 2015. He was sentenced to more than seven years in prison, although a portion of it was suspended.

He was released into ICE custody in 2017 and subsequently deported to Guatemala, but re-entered the U.S. again at an unknown time and date. He was then arrested again for a probation violation and deported again in 2020, only to re-enter again.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/twice-deported-mig...r-sanctuary-policies

These are just a few examples of liberals allowing illegal criminal migrants to walk the streets of their cities when they KNOW these people are here illegally and have committed crimes - usually MULTIPLE crimes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good news is that the federal government is pursuing this case. He got a very light sentence in CA for killing two innocent people. Then, that light sentence was made even more lenient by releasing him after only 3 1/2 years. Just think - the lives of these two innocent people burned alive was worth 3 1/2 years. But because this migrant has been deported and entered illegally again, he has committed a felony and the federal government will pursue those charges in order to deliver justice.

UPDATE: Oscar Eduardo Ortega, 43, of Mexico, was arraigned today in U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, where he pleaded not guilty to one count of being an illegal alien found in the United States following deportation. A federal magistrate judge ordered him jailed without bond. Trial is scheduled for September 8.

After being deported to Mexico twice, he returned to our country, where he killed two young people in a DUI accident and where he served only 3½ years out of a 10-year sentence in California state prison. Governor Newsom let down the victims’ families by allowing this criminal to be released from prison after barely serving a third of his sentence. The state of the criminal justice system in California is dire, the prisons are being emptied at lighting speed. Thankfully, the federal government is able to step in and help deliver justice for the victims and their families in this case.

Call us when he’s part of an international child rape ring like certain other people.

I’m not sure what point you think you are making here, that sometimes they accidentally catch an actual criminal?

Ok, participation trophy for you.

The point is that at least someone is seeking justice for these victims who were killed by this illegal alien. If California refuses to ensure the safety of citizens it is up to the federal government to do so.

What is this bogus "at least someone is seeking justice" narrative? Why do you insist on repeating this FALSE NARRATIVE that somehow liberals give illegals a pass if they commit serious crimes? Like, state and local police arrive on the scene of a rape or murder and put the guy in cuffs but then when they discover he's an illegal just say "oh, it's OK, you can walk" and uncuff him and send him on his merry way? Or that the judge says "oh, I see you're an illegal alien, so all charges are dismissed and have a nice day?"

You are absolutely deranged with your repeated insistence that illegal aliens who commit felonies are given a pass by liberals. It's absolutely and demonstrably false. Here for example are two illegal aliens who were ARRESTED, CHARGED, TRIED, CONVICTED and SENT TO PRISON in deep blue New York City, and later turned over to ICE: https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-buffalo-arrests-mexican-criminal-aliens-felony-convictions

The very people you claim give illegals a pass are the ones who did the arresting, charging, trial, conviction and imprisonment before ICE even showed up on the scene to collect them for deportation.

So STOP STOP STOP your nonsense claims that liberals don't support going after felons who are illegal aliens. They support going after ALL felons, regardless of citizenship status. Get it right, and stop your constant lying and false narratives.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good news is that the federal government is pursuing this case. He got a very light sentence in CA for killing two innocent people. Then, that light sentence was made even more lenient by releasing him after only 3 1/2 years. Just think - the lives of these two innocent people burned alive was worth 3 1/2 years. But because this migrant has been deported and entered illegally again, he has committed a felony and the federal government will pursue those charges in order to deliver justice.

UPDATE: Oscar Eduardo Ortega, 43, of Mexico, was arraigned today in U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, where he pleaded not guilty to one count of being an illegal alien found in the United States following deportation. A federal magistrate judge ordered him jailed without bond. Trial is scheduled for September 8.

After being deported to Mexico twice, he returned to our country, where he killed two young people in a DUI accident and where he served only 3½ years out of a 10-year sentence in California state prison. Governor Newsom let down the victims’ families by allowing this criminal to be released from prison after barely serving a third of his sentence. The state of the criminal justice system in California is dire, the prisons are being emptied at lighting speed. Thankfully, the federal government is able to step in and help deliver justice for the victims and their families in this case.

Call us when he’s part of an international child rape ring like certain other people.

I’m not sure what point you think you are making here, that sometimes they accidentally catch an actual criminal?

Ok, participation trophy for you.

The point is that at least someone is seeking justice for these victims who were killed by this illegal alien. If California refuses to ensure the safety of citizens it is up to the federal government to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need a secure border and why ICE needs to be left alone to do their job:

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/undocumented-dui-driver-who-killed-2-teens-turned-over-to-feds/3747745/

Ortega-Anguiano served only 3.5 years of a 10-year prison sentence, before being handed over to government workers for removal.

He was previously deported in 2016 and 2018, but returned and was right back at it before killing the innocent teens.

Impossible! Reliable liberals say that illegal immigrants never commit crimes! It's a victimless crime!

Simply impossible! They wouldn't lie would they?

You're an idiot. Stop posting.

-Independent

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Anonymous wrote:Continuing to cite these one-off extreme cases does nothing to negate the horror of US based concentration camps where green card holders and others who are trying to work within the system were kidnapped and being held illegally.

There aren't Dems who think it is bad that actual criminals are being deported - after all, Obama and Biden actually did this by the hundreds of thousands.

These "one-off extreme cases" are happening at a much greater frequency than in the past.

And, you seem to have an issue with people who are opposed to illegal criminal aliens walking our streets citing cases in which these people are arrested.
Well, many of us take issue with the one-off cases you folks amplify where people have been picked up, temporarily detained, then released once identity is confirmed.

There are NO concentration camps. And, the majority of the very few cases in which "green card holders and others" are detained turn out to have circumstances that justify the detention.

Listen, if you’re going to lie about the concentration camps, then you’re not listening to.

I’m the op. To the pp: there are no concentration camps; stop lying. or

- post proof they exist (you can’t). So stop lying already!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The good news is that the federal government is pursuing this case. He got a very light sentence in CA for killing two innocent people. Then, that light sentence was made even more lenient by releasing him after only 3 1/2 years. Just think - the lives of these two innocent people burned alive was worth 3 1/2 years. But because this migrant has been deported and entered illegally again, he has committed a felony and the federal government will pursue those charges in order to deliver justice.

UPDATE: Oscar Eduardo Ortega, 43, of Mexico, was arraigned today in U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, where he pleaded not guilty to one count of being an illegal alien found in the United States following deportation. A federal magistrate judge ordered him jailed without bond. Trial is scheduled for September 8.

After being deported to Mexico twice, he returned to our country, where he killed two young people in a DUI accident and where he served only 3½ years out of a 10-year sentence in California state prison. Governor Newsom let down the victims’ families by allowing this criminal to be released from prison after barely serving a third of his sentence. The state of the criminal justice system in California is dire, the prisons are being emptied at lighting speed. Thankfully, the federal government is able to step in and help deliver justice for the victims and their families in this case.

Call us when he’s part of an international child rape ring like certain other people.

I’m not sure what point you think you are making here, that sometimes they accidentally catch an actual criminal?

Ok, participation trophy for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Continuing to cite these one-off extreme cases does nothing to negate the horror of US based concentration camps where green card holders and others who are trying to work within the system were kidnapped and being held illegally.

There aren't Dems who think it is bad that actual criminals are being deported - after all, Obama and Biden actually did this by the hundreds of thousands.

I have heard ZERO democrats speak out in support of deporting the illegal alien criminals that ICE has in custody. Instead, we see democrats traipsing to detention centers concerned about the conditions under which these monsters are being detained. No concern for the victims of these criminals. No support for ICE who actually risk their lives to capture these criminals - with ZERO help from the local authorities in sanctuary jurisdictions.

So, you can say this all you want, but their actions speak far louder than the words you write.

Anonymous wrote:The good news is that the federal government is pursuing this case. He got a very light sentence in CA for killing two innocent people. Then, that light sentence was made even more lenient by releasing him after only 3 1/2 years. Just think - the lives of these two innocent people burned alive was worth 3 1/2 years. But because this migrant has been deported and entered illegally again, he has committed a felony and the federal government will pursue those charges in order to deliver justice.

UPDATE: Oscar Eduardo Ortega, 43, of Mexico, was arraigned today in U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, where he pleaded not guilty to one count of being an illegal alien found in the United States following deportation. A federal magistrate judge ordered him jailed without bond. Trial is scheduled for September 8.

After being deported to Mexico twice, he returned to our country, where he killed two young people in a DUI accident and where he served only 3½ years out of a 10-year sentence in California state prison. Governor Newsom let down the victims’ families by allowing this criminal to be released from prison after barely serving a third of his sentence. The state of the criminal justice system in California is dire, the prisons are being emptied at lighting speed. Thankfully, the federal government is able to step in and help deliver justice for the victims and their families in this case.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Continuing to cite these one-off extreme cases does nothing to negate the horror of US based concentration camps where green card holders and others who are trying to work within the system were kidnapped and being held illegally.

There aren't Dems who think it is bad that actual criminals are being deported - after all, Obama and Biden actually did this by the hundreds of thousands.

These "one-off extreme cases" are happening at a much greater frequency than in the past.

And, you seem to have an issue with people who are opposed to illegal criminal aliens walking our streets citing cases in which these people are arrested.
Well, many of us take issue with the one-off cases you folks amplify where people have been picked up, temporarily detained, then released once identity is confirmed.

There are NO concentration camps. And, the majority of the very few cases in which "green card holders and others" are detained turn out to have circumstances that justify the detention.

Listen, if you’re going to lie about the concentration camps, then you’re not listening to.

Anonymous wrote:Continuing to cite these one-off extreme cases does nothing to negate the horror of US based concentration camps where green card holders and others who are trying to work within the system were kidnapped and being held illegally.

There aren't Dems who think it is bad that actual criminals are being deported - after all, Obama and Biden actually did this by the hundreds of thousands.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Continuing to cite these one-off extreme cases does nothing to negate the horror of US based concentration camps where green card holders and others who are trying to work within the system were kidnapped and being held illegally.

There aren't Dems who think it is bad that actual criminals are being deported - after all, Obama and Biden actually did this by the hundreds of thousands.

I have heard ZERO democrats speak out in support of deporting the illegal alien criminals that ICE has in custody. Instead, we see democrats traipsing to detention centers concerned about the conditions under which these monsters are being detained. No concern for the victims of these criminals. No support for ICE who actually risk their lives to capture these criminals - with ZERO help from the local authorities in sanctuary jurisdictions.

So, you can say this all you want, but their actions speak far louder than the words you write.

These are not opposite or inconsistent thoughts, and you overstate your ire. You can simultaneously believe that noncitizen criminal should be deported (and it seems after serving a just sentence here is best to prevent return), and support lawful actions of authorities, and be concerned for victims of crime, while ALSO believing that our system demands all people be given due process and that authorities follow the law, [b]because without those two things, our entire system fails[b]. Words matter too, and you don't get to interpret their actions in a vacuum.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s really shocking and disappointing the lengths to which many people on DCUM are going here to defend a person who was convicted of killing in a drunk driving accident 2 innocent teens after having been allowed by TRUMP to TWICE reenter illegally.

Fixed that. You were so close.

Let's get the story straight, Skippy. The two times he entered in 2016 (under Obama) and 2018 (under Trump), he was deported.

He then entered again in 2021 under Biden:

"Three years later, in 2021, Anguiano was back in the country when he was driving drunk and killed the two teens on the 405 Freeway in Seal Beach."

So, he killed these innocent people after entering during Biden's administration. And, walked the streets of Gavin Newsom's sanctuary city before killing 2 innocent people.

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Anonymous wrote:Continuing to cite these one-off extreme cases does nothing to negate the horror of US based concentration camps where green card holders and others who are trying to work within the system were kidnapped and being held illegally.

There aren't Dems who think it is bad that actual criminals are being deported - after all, Obama and Biden actually did this by the hundreds of thousands.

I have heard ZERO democrats speak out in support of deporting the illegal alien criminals that ICE has in custody. Instead, we see democrats traipsing to detention centers concerned about the conditions under which these monsters are being detained. No concern for the victims of these criminals. No support for ICE who actually risk their lives to capture these criminals - with ZERO help from the local authorities in sanctuary jurisdictions.

So, you can say this all you want, but their actions speak far louder than the words you write.