Anonymous wrote:I tend to agree but I think there are still some authors out there publishing who are counter to this: Ann Patchett, Elizabeth Strout, Marilynne Robinson, Karen Joy Fowler, Louise Erdrich to name a few.

For some reason it was a lot easier to come up with women's names in this category. I love Russo as well but he's not publishing as much fiction recently.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's partially the way most culture works - deep, serious movies win awards. Lately that's meant dark themes and unhappy endings. Dark TV shows capture the awards - see The Bear competing in the comedy category of the Emmys. Comedy or lgihtheartedness and now anything postive is seen as not realistic or not serious. THere used to be space for acknowledging the absurdities of life, and now it's mostly the grimness of life.

I mean Everything Everywhere was absurd and had comedy elements and cleaned up on awards. Do it absolutely is possible to get awards in movies for creativity and comedy.

I loved that movie. I saw it on a plane and laughed so hard my kids were embarrassed. That movie covered lots of sad topics but in a way that was optimistic at the core.

I agree with OP's premise and I don't like sad endings despite having been a voracious reader of all sorts of published fiction for decades. I gave it up for a while because most of my choices were too tropey and/or depressing. Gone Girl was a rare exception. I found it funny.

The last book I read (long after publication) was "Little Fires Everywhere". Sorry Reese and book club...that was a sad book.

My solution was reading fanfiction for 5 years. Free stories, many with Happy Ever Afters or easy to find "fix-it" plots for real books and movies that went wrong in my opinion. Many that were nearly professional, including several stories that got professionally republished as bookstore books after they were sanitized of their fanfic origins (Ali Hazelwood, etc.).

I used to read literary fiction constantly, but feel like many books have gotten too depressing and predictable. So I, too, have been mostly reading fanfic for the last 3 years. I am well over 50 years old and am embarrassed to admit it, but my life is stressful and I will not spend my limited free time being further stressed out!

In fact, my planned weekend reading is “the irresistible urge to fall for your enemy” which is repurposed fanfic by the author who wrote a really charming Harry Potter story (https://archiveofourown.org/works/34500952).

PP. I do plan to read "Irresistable Urge". I have read the original. I'm sure we've probably both posted on the couple of fanfic threads on here.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's partially the way most culture works - deep, serious movies win awards. Lately that's meant dark themes and unhappy endings. Dark TV shows capture the awards - see The Bear competing in the comedy category of the Emmys. Comedy or lgihtheartedness and now anything postive is seen as not realistic or not serious. THere used to be space for acknowledging the absurdities of life, and now it's mostly the grimness of life.

I mean Everything Everywhere was absurd and had comedy elements and cleaned up on awards. Do it absolutely is possible to get awards in movies for creativity and comedy.

I loved that movie. I saw it on a plane and laughed so hard my kids were embarrassed. That movie covered lots of sad topics but in a way that was optimistic at the core.

I agree with OP's premise and I don't like sad endings despite having been a voracious reader of all sorts of published fiction for decades. I gave it up for a while because most of my choices were too tropey and/or depressing. Gone Girl was a rare exception. I found it funny.

The last book I read (long after publication) was "Little Fires Everywhere". Sorry Reese and book club...that was a sad book.

My solution was reading fanfiction for 5 years. Free stories, many with Happy Ever Afters or easy to find "fix-it" plots for real books and movies that went wrong in my opinion. Many that were nearly professional, including several stories that got professionally republished as bookstore books after they were sanitized of their fanfic origins (Ali Hazelwood, etc.).

I used to read literary fiction constantly, but feel like many books have gotten too depressing and predictable. So I, too, have been mostly reading fanfic for the last 3 years. I am well over 50 years old and am embarrassed to admit it, but my life is stressful and I will not spend my limited free time being further stressed out!

In fact, my planned weekend reading is “the irresistible urge to fall for your enemy” which is repurposed fanfic by the author who wrote a really charming Harry Potter story (https://archiveofourown.org/works/34500952).

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Anonymous wrote:There's Thomas Hardy if you want misery.

Ha! My friend used to say, "Friends don't let friends read Thomas Hardy."

Jude the Obscure is the saddest, most heartbreaking book ever written, IMO.

Tess isn't having much fun either.

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Anonymous wrote:There's Thomas Hardy if you want misery.

Ha! My friend used to say, "Friends don't let friends read Thomas Hardy."

Jude the Obscure is the saddest, most heartbreaking book ever written, IMO.