Anonymous
07/15/2025 17:27
Subject: Re:Stuyvesant class of 2025 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Over the weekend I met a boy that was recently admitted (his dad is a college friend of DH's). He told me his son's prep started at age 6 and in later years he worked with a Columbia math professor. I had no idea!
It's not test prep. They're not prepping for the SHSAT at age 6 any more than they are prepping for the SATs at age 6. It's educational enrichment.
About half the kids at stuyvesant are on free/reduced lunch.
Very few are getting tutored by Columbia professors in middle school.
EDUCATIONAL ENRICHMENT.
The keys to Stuyvesant and TJ, for a large percent of smart but not really gifted kids, is: enrichment.
Mathnasium
Kumon
Russian math
AOPS
Khan
Currie
It is no secret. If the parents value education, push education, and can pay a little bit for extra enrichment, the kids will rise to the top. That cost of that Disney vacation or cruise would likely
pay for a years’ enrichment. It is a choice you, the parent, make.
Why does everyone pretend this is a mystery?
Because the people who value education are not evenly distributed and nobody wants to say that.
Anonymous
07/15/2025 12:41
Subject: Re:Stuyvesant class of 2025 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Over the weekend I met a boy that was recently admitted (his dad is a college friend of DH's). He told me his son's prep started at age 6 and in later years he worked with a Columbia math professor. I had no idea!
It's not test prep. They're not prepping for the SHSAT at age 6 any more than they are prepping for the SATs at age 6. It's educational enrichment.
About half the kids at stuyvesant are on free/reduced lunch.
Very few are getting tutored by Columbia professors in middle school.
EDUCATIONAL ENRICHMENT.
The keys to Stuyvesant and TJ, for a large percent of smart but not really gifted kids, is: enrichment.
Mathnasium
Kumon
Russian math
AOPS
Khan
Currie
It is no secret. If the parents value education, push education, and can pay a little bit for extra enrichment, the kids will rise to the top. That cost of that Disney vacation or cruise would likely
pay for a years’ enrichment. It is a choice you, the parent, make.
Why does everyone pretend this is a mystery?
Anonymous
07/14/2025 09:56
Subject: Re:Stuyvesant class of 2025 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Over the weekend I met a boy that was recently admitted (his dad is a college friend of DH's). He told me his son's prep started at age 6 and in later years he worked with a Columbia math professor. I had no idea!
It's not test prep. They're not prepping for the SHSAT at age 6 any more than they are prepping for the SATs at age 6. It's educational enrichment.
About half the kids at stuyvesant are on free/reduced lunch.
Very few are getting tutored by Columbia professors in middle school.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 18:05
Subject: Re:Stuyvesant class of 2025 colleges
Over the weekend I met a boy that was recently admitted (his dad is a college friend of DH's). He told me his son's prep started at age 6 and in later years he worked with a Columbia math professor. I had no idea!
Anonymous
07/13/2025 17:45
Subject: Stuyvesant class of 2025 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are those poor students finding money to enroll in Curie like enrichment centers that prep for the merit test?
Curie is something like $3000/year all in. If education is a priority, you can make it work.
That's way less than most parents spend on youth sports.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 17:42
Subject: Stuyvesant class of 2025 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are those poor students finding money to enroll in Curie like enrichment centers that prep for the merit test?
Curie is something like $3000/year all in. If education is a priority, you can make it work.
Many start at Curie in K and have dumped like $30k into enrichemtn by the time they apply to TJ.
So they start at 3-4 years old? It's more like $2K/year in elementary school
Anyways 30K over 10 years is less than a car payment.
It's not a matter of affluence, it's a matter of priorities.
Asians just prioritize education more than other groups.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 17:39
Subject: Stuyvesant class of 2025 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notably, the FARM percentage stays relatively stable at Stuyvesant.
The FARM percentage at TJ see significant drop off.
At TJ, political agenda has made racial balancing a priority over FARMS. If race based essay selection was removed, TJ would have had more FARMS but then Asian American percent would have gone up too.
Lies. The essay isn’t “race based”. It’s a race blind process.
No, before the admissions change, there were FEWER students coming from economically-disadvantaged families: less than 1% of the admitted students for class of 2024.
The change had almost nothing to do with our students. It was driven by concerns of racial diversity.
Really? I heard the change was necessary to counter the many affluent students who had gained access to the test through elite prep.
You heard wrong. hearings and testimony make it clear that the desire to achieve racial diversity was the driving force behind the changes
You are allowed to explicitly select for poverty, they didn't need to eliminate the merit filter to do that.
You are allowed to select based on geography, they didn't need to eliminate the merit filter to do that.
But you are not allowed to select for race and the only way to achieve the racial diversity they desired was to eliminate the merit filter.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 11:49
Subject: Stuyvesant class of 2025 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are those poor students finding money to enroll in Curie like enrichment centers that prep for the merit test?
Curie is something like $3000/year all in. If education is a priority, you can make it work.
Many start at Curie in K and have dumped like $30k into enrichemtn by the time they apply to TJ.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 11:48
Subject: Stuyvesant class of 2025 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notably, the FARM percentage stays relatively stable at Stuyvesant.
The FARM percentage at TJ see significant drop off.
At TJ, political agenda has made racial balancing a priority over FARMS. If race based essay selection was removed, TJ would have had more FARMS but then Asian American percent would have gone up too.
Lies. The essay isn’t “race based”. It’s a race blind process.
No, before the admissions change, there were FEWER students coming from economically-disadvantaged families: less than 1% of the admitted students for class of 2024.
The change had almost nothing to do with our students. It was driven by concerns of racial diversity.
Really? I heard the change was necessary to counter the many affluent students who had gained access to the test through elite prep.
Anonymous
07/13/2025 00:59
Subject: Stuyvesant class of 2025 colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are those poor students finding money to enroll in Curie like enrichment centers that prep for the merit test?
Curie is something like $3000/year all in. If education is a priority, you can make it work.
Hmm, isn't that less than the $4000 that athletic students spend trying to make it onto public school basketball or football team?
Anonymous
07/12/2025 23:56
Subject: Stuyvesant class of 2025 colleges
fixed typoAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notably, the FARM percentage stays relatively stable at Stuyvesant.
The FARM percentage at TJ see significant drop off.
At TJ, political agenda has made racial balancing a priority over FARMS. If race based essay selection was removed, TJ would have had more FARMS but then Asian American percent would have gone up too.
Lies. The essay isn’t “race based”. It’s a race blind process.
No, before the admissions change, there were FEWER students coming from economically-disadvantaged families: less than 1% of the admitted students for class of 2024.
The change had almost nothing to do with poor students. It was driven by concerns of racial diversity.