Anonymous
Post 05/26/2025 12:23     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:Specialized programs like Newhouse are excellent. General program is like an overpriced average state school. Lots of rich kids from Long Island named Jared who are pretty bright but didn’t try that hard. Kind of a poor man’s Tulane.


This is it
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2025 11:38     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Specialized programs like Newhouse are excellent. General program is like an overpriced average state school. Lots of rich kids from Long Island named Jared who are pretty bright but didn’t try that hard. Kind of a poor man’s Tulane.


Syracuse is what BU was in the early 2000s... decent name recognition, strong specialized schools, but kids can actually get into the school without having top grades or standardized test scores.


A couple of posters are comparing Syracuse to BU.

Uh, no.

Location aside, BU is clearly in another tier in terms of ranking, academics, acceptance rate, etc.

Syracuse, while a solid school, isn't even in the Stony Brook SUNY range.


SUNY Stony Brook is fine and offers a great public education for NYS residents, but it’s like 50% commuters and on Long Island. Just a different feel and much less of a residential campus than Syracuse. And ok still not convinced it has the same name recognition and networking on a national level.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 22:31     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Specialized programs like Newhouse are excellent. General program is like an overpriced average state school. Lots of rich kids from Long Island named Jared who are pretty bright but didn’t try that hard. Kind of a poor man’s Tulane.


Syracuse is what BU was in the early 2000s... decent name recognition, strong specialized schools, but kids can actually get into the school without having top grades or standardized test scores.


A couple of posters are comparing Syracuse to BU.

Uh, no.

Location aside, BU is clearly in another tier in terms of ranking, academics, acceptance rate, etc.

Syracuse, while a solid school, isn't even in the Stony Brook SUNY range.


Nope. Syracuse and BU are incredibly similar (other than location). Syracuse has a few specialized programs (Newhouse, sports analytics, Maxwell) that BU can't match. For general students BU might be slightly better - unclear.

As regards Syracuse vs. publics, top SUNY schools might have better stats. But if you have the money to pay for Syracuse, there are benefits to going private that help bridge that gap. It is a different type of kid. Which has its pros and cons.


Sports analytics? 🤣

Ok.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 22:28     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Specialized programs like Newhouse are excellent. General program is like an overpriced average state school. Lots of rich kids from Long Island named Jared who are pretty bright but didn’t try that hard. Kind of a poor man’s Tulane.


Syracuse is what BU was in the early 2000s... decent name recognition, strong specialized schools, but kids can actually get into the school without having top grades or standardized test scores.


A couple of posters are comparing Syracuse to BU.

Uh, no.

Location aside, BU is clearly in another tier in terms of ranking, academics, acceptance rate, etc.

Syracuse, while a solid school, isn't even in the Stony Brook SUNY range.


Nope. Syracuse and BU are incredibly similar (other than location). Syracuse has a few specialized programs (Newhouse, sports analytics, Maxwell) that BU can't match. For general students BU might be slightly better - unclear.

As regards Syracuse vs. publics, top SUNY schools might have better stats. But if you have the money to pay for Syracuse, there are benefits to going private that help bridge that gap. It is a different type of kid. Which has its pros and cons.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 22:27     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The student quality at Syracuse, for a private school, are extremely underwhelming as measured by their SAT scores.

Even with an incredibly low percentage of students submitting an SAT score (75%-80% of freshmen don't even submit a score) they still have a very pedestrian 25th percentile score of 1260.

Compared to other northeastern private schools- Cornell, NYU, BC, BU, NEU, Tufts, Villanova- it gets thoroughly outclassed.

And even among Syracuse's northeast public colleges like SUNY Albany, Binghampton, Buffalo, UConn, UMass, Penn State it doesn't even fare any better.

It isn't in that elite of private school band, nor is it terribly competitive with public flagship colleges.

So it finds itself as just one of very many halfway decent, but overpriced, private schools. These are the ones that you see continue to slip.


It definitely fills a niche for those who want sports, name recognition, & adequate academics, but didn’t kill it in high school. Sorta like Villanova, Conn, Pitt.


If you're in-state in Connecticut, Pennsylvania, NY, or Massachusetts I don't know how you pick Syracuse of those states' flagships. Maybe they throw a ton of merit to bring cost of attendance below in-state tuition or maybe they couldn't get into their state flagship.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 22:17     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Specialized programs like Newhouse are excellent. General program is like an overpriced average state school. Lots of rich kids from Long Island named Jared who are pretty bright but didn’t try that hard. Kind of a poor man’s Tulane.


Syracuse is what BU was in the early 2000s... decent name recognition, strong specialized schools, but kids can actually get into the school without having top grades or standardized test scores.


A couple of posters are comparing Syracuse to BU.

Uh, no.

Location aside, BU is clearly in another tier in terms of ranking, academics, acceptance rate, etc.

Syracuse, while a solid school, isn't even in the Stony Brook SUNY range.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 21:57     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Specialized programs like Newhouse are excellent. General program is like an overpriced average state school. Lots of rich kids from Long Island named Jared who are pretty bright but didn’t try that hard. Kind of a poor man’s Tulane.


With $56K tuition, it does not seem like a poor man's anything.

My high stats kid applied to Maxwell and was rejected. Architecture and broadcasting programs are very good.


"Poor man's" is an expression. Not related to cost. Related to "almost as good as but not quite"


NP.

And if you have kids in high school or college, they would say "off-brand" not "poor man's." "Poor man's" is how grandparents talk.


Nope. Very common in sports. And I have heard my teens use it. Maybe "off-brand" is what those who shop "off-brand" say.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 21:08     Subject: Re:Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:Syracuse is located in a depressed and depressing city. Cold, damp, grey, overcast days lead many into a state of depression. Also, too much alcohol intake which exacerbates the situation.

This is not limited to Syracuse University & the city of Syracuse; same for Cornell and other colleges in the region.


Seasonal depression is real. You need to know if this is something that affects you because the dark gray is nothing like you’ve experienced before anywhere in the world. And I agree, it’s not just Syracuse but any school in that area. The cold and snow are more that can be described too.

Besides that, it’s a fantastic school if you can afford it. There is a lot of spirit and things to do. I have fond memories of many sports games and I’m not generally into sports. There are lots of good restaurants and places to go out to also.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 20:21     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Specialized programs like Newhouse are excellent. General program is like an overpriced average state school. Lots of rich kids from Long Island named Jared who are pretty bright but didn’t try that hard. Kind of a poor man’s Tulane.


With $56K tuition, it does not seem like a poor man's anything.

My high stats kid applied to Maxwell and was rejected. Architecture and broadcasting programs are very good.


"Poor man's" is an expression. Not related to cost. Related to "almost as good as but not quite"


NP.

And if you have kids in high school or college, they would say "off-brand" not "poor man's." "Poor man's" is how grandparents talk.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 18:39     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:Specialized programs like Newhouse are excellent. General program is like an overpriced average state school. Lots of rich kids from Long Island named Jared who are pretty bright but didn’t try that hard. Kind of a poor man’s Tulane.


Syracuse is what BU was in the early 2000s... decent name recognition, strong specialized schools, but kids can actually get into the school without having top grades or standardized test scores.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 17:33     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:120 inches of snow sounds like a lot, but the way snow falls makes it not as bad as it sounds. Syracuse gets a lot of lake effect snow which in Syracuse means many nights will get an inch or two of snow. Most of the snow falls at night. They are really good at snow removal.

The other types of snow storms are the same ones that can hit the DC area and give a little snow or a lot.

The snowiest months are December, January, and February. Students are gone for a good portion of December and January.

It's definitely colder and more overcast than the DC area.


Even your relatives in Scottsdale who always tell you 115 degrees isn’t bad if the humidity is low wouldn’t have the balls to try to convince you that ten feet of snow isn’t a problem unless it’s the wrong kind of snow.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 17:27     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The student quality at Syracuse, for a private school, are extremely underwhelming as measured by their SAT scores.

Even with an incredibly low percentage of students submitting an SAT score (75%-80% of freshmen don't even submit a score) they still have a very pedestrian 25th percentile score of 1260.

Compared to other northeastern private schools- Cornell, NYU, BC, BU, NEU, Tufts, Villanova- it gets thoroughly outclassed.

And even among Syracuse's northeast public colleges like SUNY Albany, Binghampton, Buffalo, UConn, UMass, Penn State it doesn't even fare any better.

It isn't in that elite of private school band, nor is it terribly competitive with public flagship colleges.

So it finds itself as just one of very many halfway decent, but overpriced, private schools. These are the ones that you see continue to slip.


It definitely fills a niche for those who want sports, name recognition, & adequate academics, but didn’t kill it in high school. ]Sorta like Villanova, Conn, Pitt.


Villanova is tough these days. Much harder to get an offer of admission to Villanova than to Syracuse.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 17:23     Subject: Syracuse University
Anonymous wrote:The student quality at Syracuse, for a private school, are extremely underwhelming as measured by their SAT scores.

Even with an incredibly low percentage of students submitting an SAT score (75%-80% of freshmen don't even submit a score) they still have a very pedestrian 25th percentile score of 1260.

Compared to other northeastern private schools- Cornell, NYU, BC, BU, NEU, Tufts, Villanova- it gets thoroughly outclassed.

And even among Syracuse's northeast public colleges like SUNY Albany, Binghampton, Buffalo, UConn, UMass, Penn State it doesn't even fare any better.

It isn't in that elite of private school band, nor is it terribly competitive with public flagship colleges.

So it finds itself as just one of very many halfway decent, but overpriced, private schools. These are the ones that you see continue to slip.


It definitely fills a niche for those who want sports, name recognition, & adequate academics, but didn’t kill it in high school. Sorta like Villanova, Conn, Pitt.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 16:31     Subject: Syracuse University
The student quality at Syracuse, for a private school, are extremely underwhelming as measured by their SAT scores.

Even with an incredibly low percentage of students submitting an SAT score (75%-80% of freshmen don't even submit a score) they still have a very pedestrian 25th percentile score of 1260.

Compared to other northeastern private schools- Cornell, NYU, BC, BU, NEU, Tufts, Villanova- it gets thoroughly outclassed.

And even among Syracuse's northeast public colleges like SUNY Albany, Binghampton, Buffalo, UConn, UMass, Penn State it doesn't even fare any better.

It isn't in that elite of private school band, nor is it terribly competitive with public flagship colleges.

So it finds itself as just one of very many halfway decent, but overpriced, private schools. These are the ones that you see continue to slip.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2025 15:39     Subject: Syracuse University
I’m a Syracuse grad (went there 30 years ago with major financial aid). I had a great time and have done well. But now I see it as a school for rich kids from the northeast. Your kids can go there, have a lot of fun, and get a perfectly adequate education. But you will pay a lot of $$ for that experience.