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Anonymous wrote:OK MCPS staff, apparently a basket of lazy fools who can't find their rear ends with both hands and the map, and never go into the schools they are responsible for, are going to go through a spreadsheet to look up student names from id (because these fools can't make a tech system that works either, right?), and then go hunt down and retaliate against a student or parent thet gave never met (how? Changing their grades? Editing the magnet school admission list?)

These are surveys about your particular school. So it is not all of MCPS central office sorting ID numbers. All you have to do is say something true, like the FL department is poorly organized and that department can figure it out and put your kid, though no fault of theirs on the "we don't like you" list. This can hurt on the margins.

People who can't see how this could be bad for students/families are either gaslighting or have not experienced the dark side of MCPS.

Fear mongering!

To focus on building trust, we're going to require specific identifying information as the means of validating our surveys. Good job, MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:OK MCPS staff, apparently a basket of lazy fools who can't find their rear ends with both hands and the map, and never go into the schools they are responsible for, are going to go through a spreadsheet to look up student names from id (because these fools can't make a tech system that works either, right?), and then go hunt down and retaliate against a student or parent thet gave never met (how? Changing their grades? Editing the magnet school admission list?)

These are surveys about your particular school. So it is not all of MCPS central office sorting ID numbers. All you have to do is say something true, like the FL department is poorly organized and that department can figure it out and put your kid, though no fault of theirs on the "we don't like you" list. This can hurt on the margins.

People who can't see how this could be bad for students/families are either gaslighting or have not experienced the dark side of MCPS.

Fear mongering!

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Anonymous wrote:OK MCPS staff, apparently a basket of lazy fools who can't find their rear ends with both hands and the map, and never go into the schools they are responsible for, are going to go through a spreadsheet to look up student names from id (because these fools can't make a tech system that works either, right?), and then go hunt down and retaliate against a student or parent thet gave never met (how? Changing their grades? Editing the magnet school admission list?)

These are surveys about your particular school. So it is not all of MCPS central office sorting ID numbers. All you have to do is say something true, like the FL department is poorly organized and that department can figure it out and put your kid, though no fault of theirs on the "we don't like you" list. This can hurt on the margins.

People who can't see how this could be bad for students/families are either gaslighting or have not experienced the dark side of MCPS.

Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS not realize that their request to enter a student number on a parent survey is going to reduce responses by 50% ???

Which survey are you referring to?

Anonymous wrote:OK MCPS staff, apparently a basket of lazy fools who can't find their rear ends with both hands and the map, and never go into the schools they are responsible for, are going to go through a spreadsheet to look up student names from id (because these fools can't make a tech system that works either, right?), and then go hunt down and retaliate against a student or parent thet gave never met (how? Changing their grades? Editing the magnet school admission list?)

These are surveys about your particular school. So it is not all of MCPS central office sorting ID numbers. All you have to do is say something true, like the FL department is poorly organized and that department can figure it out and put your kid, though no fault of theirs on the "we don't like you" list. This can hurt on the margins.

When people say the MCPS forum is full of trolls, they are not lying.
The fear-mongering is strong here.

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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS not realize that their request to enter a student number on a parent survey is going to reduce responses by 50% ???

It's nothing new. They have done it for every survey.

Naw, you're gaslighting. They have never asked this before on parent surveys. They've tracked IP addresses before.

Now we know you don't have kids in MCPS.

OK MCPS staff, apparently a basket of lazy fools who can't find their rear ends with both hands and the map, and never go into the schools they are responsible for, are going to go through a spreadsheet to look up student names from id (because these fools can't make a tech system that works either, right?), and then go hunt down and retaliate against a student or parent thet gave never met (how? Changing their grades? Editing the magnet school admission list?)

The survey should have a button for "I don't know my kid's ID number" that submits and ends the survey.

If you're can't quickly find your kid's ID number in the many software apps you need to use as a parent, you need basic training on how to be a parent in this school system. MCPS should start by counting how many parenta aren even using these apps from asix info about their kids' / schooling, and fix that.

I agree many if the surveys from MCPS are poorly designed and when they ask for student number, it makes me think twice about privacy, but I usually do it.
Here’s the thing- they are at least trying to ask for input, trying to ensure only mcps parents complete the survey and trying to ensure one voice is not dominating responses.
I’d be willing to bet most of these surveys are created by a teacher/instructional specialist who was asked to create something to get feedback from the community quickly, and that this person has many other responsibilities, little training in statistics or the technology and is doing their best with what they have.
What is your suggestion for collecting feedback? What would you trust? What would you be willing to spend school system dollars/time on? Truly curious… I’m having trouble thinking of solutions. I usually don’t think those that testify to the board are representative of most in the county- and definitely anyone afraid of retaliation won’t go this route, I don’t want phone surveys, I don’t trust my principal not to cherry pick what to share with the board, anytime I remember the county paying outside people to gather the data- it’s been crazy expensive and taken so long it’s hard to act on. So- while the poorly designed Google forms aren’t great, I try to give at least some input- especially where there is a place to write in an answer - in hopes that someone reads it and it may at least make them consider different points of view.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is not genuinely interested in gathering the highest quality survey data.

You're joking, right?
This is how they will get the highest quality survey data by requiring students numbers.

If I have break down to you why requiring personal identifying information in a system like MCPS where mistrust and retaliation are high and how you would want to avoid that if you were prioritizing getting true sentiment of a statistically significant portion of the MCPS population, then you're not worth having the conversation with.

You must be new or a troll. MCPS has always asked for student numbers when doing these surveys.

DP

So they've always been terrible at administering the surveys they use as cover for their terrible policies?

Yes, they are terrible for preventing trolls from filling the survey.

Wow. They actually think these surveys are scientific? Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS not realize that their request to enter a student number on a parent survey is going to reduce responses by 50% ???

It's nothing new. They have done it for every survey.

Naw, you're gaslighting. They have never asked this before on parent surveys. They've tracked IP addresses before.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is not genuinely interested in gathering the highest quality survey data.

You're joking, right?
This is how they will get the highest quality survey data by requiring students numbers.

If I have break down to you why requiring personal identifying information in a system like MCPS where mistrust and retaliation are high and how you would want to avoid that if you were prioritizing getting true sentiment of a statistically significant portion of the MCPS population, then you're not worth having the conversation with.

You must be new or a troll. MCPS has always asked for student numbers when doing these surveys.

DP

So they've always been terrible at administering the surveys they use as cover for their terrible policies?

They don't always ask for student numbers. I got a poorly designed one about specialized high school programs a week ago, and it didn't ask for anything.

Apples to oranges