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Many med students become licensed CNAs or EMTs.
Anonymous wrote:Many pre-meds don't do internships per se, and no one does hands on surgery. There are four major boxes to check that are prerequisites for many medical schools.
Volunteering - 100+ hours, usually much more - This can be anything, preferrably medical related.
Shadowing - Anywhere from 50-200 hours depending on the school. Reach out to any doctors you know and ask to shadow. Do it acrosse a variety of practice types
Clinical - 100+ hours, many do much more.
Scribing, EMT, medical assistant, phlebotemist, whatever you can get.
Research - 400+ hours for research oriented medical schools, many do much more. Get in touch with research professors at your school. Hard to do for just a summer.
Anonymous wrote:The INOVA program does not allow the kids to perform surgery. I agree that getting a chance to perform surgery while still in high school or college would be a father in one's cap. But maybe INOVA worries that patients might not be happy playing along? Do other hospitals allow it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Inova offers internships in summer. I am sure other large hospital systems have similar programs.
No, they don't.
This is the Inova program: https://www.inova.org/our-services/inova-volunteer-services-system/summer-2025
You have to have registered by April 25th. So annoying. My college kid just got home from school and is looking for pre-med volunteering opportunities. I guess you need to look in the winter? Anything available now ?
Are you surprised that they expect would-be medical students to plan ahead?
It really does come down to this.
The INOVA student volunteer program summer positions are filled by lottery so the "early" registration (it really is not that early given that most college students start looking for summer positions in the fall prior) is to allow adequate time for those selected to be notified AND to have all their paperwork (TB testing is required and takes time).
Just curious what the volunteers do, couldn’t see that info anywhere and given HS kids apply.
IDK for sure at INOVA, but when I did volunteer hospital work for a medstar location, i mostly sat behind the counter doing admin type work like answering the phone and transferring calls to the patients room, or directing visitors down the hallway, or answering the patients calls and getting them a juice if that's what they wanted. Or when meds arrived, I'd tell the nurse. Or once a patient checked out I had to go through the file and make sure everything was signed and dated. The only hands on stuff I did was help a nurse change bed sheets, and if the patient was bedridden, then I'd move the sheets around as nurse held patient. IOW, i actually never touched a patient. I would have like to sit and talk to patients more, but never had time.
I think if you want this kind of patient interaction, you could look into volunteering at a nursing home/long-term care facility.
https://www.sunriseseniorliving.com/about/volunteers
Anonymous wrote:Maybe at a nursing home as a PP said. As a patient, no thank you. I barely tolerated actual med students who weren't sure about their specialty but were giving a go at everything. I sure as hell would decline a student in college or not even in college yet. And I believe in helping to educate future doctors, just not that early. I don't need high schoolers crowding the room during a procedure, thanks.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Inova offers internships in summer. I am sure other large hospital systems have similar programs.
No, they don't.
This is the Inova program: https://www.inova.org/our-services/inova-volunteer-services-system/summer-2025
You have to have registered by April 25th. So annoying. My college kid just got home from school and is looking for pre-med volunteering opportunities. I guess you need to look in the winter? Anything available now ?
Are you surprised that they expect would-be medical students to plan ahead?
It really does come down to this.
The INOVA student volunteer program summer positions are filled by lottery so the "early" registration (it really is not that early given that most college students start looking for summer positions in the fall prior) is to allow adequate time for those selected to be notified AND to have all their paperwork (TB testing is required and takes time).
Just curious what the volunteers do, couldn’t see that info anywhere and given HS kids apply.
It probably varies greatly but I would not hold out hope that it would involve much direct clinical care, even for the college applicants. That it is listed as a volunteer program and not a shadowing or research program is, to me, a tell.
Yes, it’s why I asked. Not sure it would be that great for med school applications based on what I saw. Being more hands-on at a clinic somewhere would be better imo.
Maybe at a nursing home as a PP said. As a patient, no thank you. I barely tolerated actual med students who weren't sure about their specialty but were giving a go at everything. I sure as hell would decline a student in college or not even in college yet. And I believe in helping to educate future doctors, just not that early. I don't need high schoolers crowding the room during a procedure, thanks.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Inova offers internships in summer. I am sure other large hospital systems have similar programs.
No, they don't.
This is the Inova program: https://www.inova.org/our-services/inova-volunteer-services-system/summer-2025
You have to have registered by April 25th. So annoying. My college kid just got home from school and is looking for pre-med volunteering opportunities. I guess you need to look in the winter? Anything available now ?
Are you surprised that they expect would-be medical students to plan ahead?
It really does come down to this.
The INOVA student volunteer program summer positions are filled by lottery so the "early" registration (it really is not that early given that most college students start looking for summer positions in the fall prior) is to allow adequate time for those selected to be notified AND to have all their paperwork (TB testing is required and takes time).
Just curious what the volunteers do, couldn’t see that info anywhere and given HS kids apply.
It probably varies greatly but I would not hold out hope that it would involve much direct clinical care, even for the college applicants. That it is listed as a volunteer program and not a shadowing or research program is, to me, a tell.
Yes, it’s why I asked. Not sure it would be that great for med school applications based on what I saw. Being more hands-on at a clinic somewhere would be better imo.
Anonymous wrote:Now we have high school students claiming as an EC that they perform surgery?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Inova offers internships in summer. I am sure other large hospital systems have similar programs.
No, they don't.
This is the Inova program: https://www.inova.org/our-services/inova-volunteer-services-system/summer-2025
You have to have registered by April 25th. So annoying. My college kid just got home from school and is looking for pre-med volunteering opportunities. I guess you need to look in the winter? Anything available now ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Inova offers internships in summer. I am sure other large hospital systems have similar programs.
No, they don't.
This is the Inova program: https://www.inova.org/our-services/inova-volunteer-services-system/summer-2025
You have to have registered by April 25th. So annoying. My college kid just got home from school and is looking for pre-med volunteering opportunities. I guess you need to look in the winter? Anything available now ?
Are you surprised that they expect would-be medical students to plan ahead?
It really does come down to this.
The INOVA student volunteer program summer positions are filled by lottery so the "early" registration (it really is not that early given that most college students start looking for summer positions in the fall prior) is to allow adequate time for those selected to be notified AND to have all their paperwork (TB testing is required and takes time).
Just curious what the volunteers do, couldn’t see that info anywhere and given HS kids apply.
IDK for sure at INOVA, but when I did volunteer hospital work for a medstar location, i mostly sat behind the counter doing admin type work like answering the phone and transferring calls to the patients room, or directing visitors down the hallway, or answering the patients calls and getting them a juice if that's what they wanted. Or when meds arrived, I'd tell the nurse. Or once a patient checked out I had to go through the file and make sure everything was signed and dated. The only hands on stuff I did was help a nurse change bed sheets, and if the patient was bedridden, then I'd move the sheets around as nurse held patient. IOW, i actually never touched a patient. I would have like to sit and talk to patients more, but never had time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Inova offers internships in summer. I am sure other large hospital systems have similar programs.
No, they don't.
This is the Inova program: https://www.inova.org/our-services/inova-volunteer-services-system/summer-2025
You have to have registered by April 25th. So annoying. My college kid just got home from school and is looking for pre-med volunteering opportunities. I guess you need to look in the winter? Anything available now ?
Are you surprised that they expect would-be medical students to plan ahead?
It really does come down to this.
The INOVA student volunteer program summer positions are filled by lottery so the "early" registration (it really is not that early given that most college students start looking for summer positions in the fall prior) is to allow adequate time for those selected to be notified AND to have all their paperwork (TB testing is required and takes time).
Just curious what the volunteers do, couldn’t see that info anywhere and given HS kids apply.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Inova offers internships in summer. I am sure other large hospital systems have similar programs.
No, they don't.
This is the Inova program: https://www.inova.org/our-services/inova-volunteer-services-system/summer-2025
You have to have registered by April 25th. So annoying. My college kid just got home from school and is looking for pre-med volunteering opportunities. I guess you need to look in the winter? Anything available now ?