Anonymous
05/01/2025 11:31
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?
Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"
We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.
And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.
Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"
When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.
Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.
I'm the PP. Sure, you can call it that. I don't get offended by someone saying that I'm indoctrinating them into not thinking there is a God. I welcome criticism and questioning of why I hold that view, including as the children grow and learn and ask important questions. Contrast that to most religious followers where they are supposed to blindly accept some ridiculous beliefs based primarily on faith.
In my family, we are similar. I tell my kids that they don't have to believe me. They can look up information and examine it for themselves. Then, we discuss. It's a great learning opportunity and helps to develop analytical and critical thinking skills.
This is very different than how I was raised. Bible study was for analysis of the words and their meaning. It was assumed those words were already truth.
I'm Christian. I was raised with the knowledge that I could believe what I wanted, but that my parents and many other people around me believed (and lived!) the Bible. I wouldn't be a Christian if there hadn't been openness and practicing what you preached.
I realize not everyone gets that - regardless of religious background - and I'm grateful for it.
Anonymous
05/01/2025 11:27
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?
Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"
We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.
And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.
Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"
When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.
Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.
I'm the PP. Sure, you can call it that. I don't get offended by someone saying that I'm indoctrinating them into not thinking there is a God. I welcome criticism and questioning of why I hold that view, including as the children grow and learn and ask important questions. Contrast that to most religious followers where they are supposed to blindly accept some ridiculous beliefs based primarily on faith.
Thanks PP for your gracious response. It's refreshing.
--person you responded to
Anonymous
05/01/2025 11:27
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?
Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"
We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.
And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.
Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"
When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.
Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.
I'm the PP. Sure, you can call it that. I don't get offended by someone saying that I'm indoctrinating them into not thinking there is a God. I welcome criticism and questioning of why I hold that view, including as the children grow and learn and ask important questions. Contrast that to most religious followers where they are supposed to blindly accept some ridiculous beliefs based primarily on faith.
In my family, we are similar. I tell my kids that they don't have to believe me. They can look up information and examine it for themselves. Then, we discuss. It's a great learning opportunity and helps to develop analytical and critical thinking skills.
This is very different than how I was raised. Bible study was for analysis of the words and their meaning. It was assumed those words were already truth.
Anonymous
05/01/2025 11:14
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?
Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"
We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.
And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.
Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"
When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.
Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.
I'm the PP. Sure, you can call it that. I don't get offended by someone saying that I'm indoctrinating them into not thinking there is a God. I welcome criticism and questioning of why I hold that view, including as the children grow and learn and ask important questions. Contrast that to most religious followers where they are supposed to blindly accept some ridiculous beliefs based primarily on faith.
Anonymous
05/01/2025 10:49
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?
Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"
We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.
And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.
Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"
When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.
Question for you PP: if you teach your children that there is no God, are you indoctrinating them? They can't think critically about that statement.
Anonymous
05/01/2025 10:47
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?
Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"
We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.
And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.
Definition of indoctrinate: "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically"
When you force children, who do not yet have the mental development to think critically, to accept whatever religion you are pushing as true, it is a fact. Most believers were indoctrinated as a minor.
Anonymous
05/01/2025 10:19
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?
Definition of fact: "a thing that is known or proved to be true"
We generally don't consider something only a portion of the populace knows to be true to be fact. Otherwise I could just as easily say that it is a fact that any given religion (for the sake of argument here we'll use Baha'i) is definitely true.
And no one has offered proof that religion = indoctrination.
Anonymous
05/01/2025 10:17
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, wasn’t this about having a civil discussion rather than disrespect? Unless you aren’t capable of the former? Probably not. One can hope - though these threads are usually full of people like you.
you're not being very nice either.
Haven’t you noticed that there is a contingent of regular posters on this forum who are not actually interested in any sort of dialogue, regardless of how many seemingly innocuous threads they start? Sorry, friend, I am not one to turn the other cheek when someone calls someone else an ass8hole on the Religion forum.
I think it's not just this forum. I think it has to do with talking to strangers on the internet. It's easier to be rude.
As another poster wrote, where was someone being so insulting other than making a factual claim? Sensitive much?
Calling religion indoctrination is not a factual claim. It's a belief statement.
Anonymous
05/01/2025 09:55
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
The snowflakes a melting because a poster used indoctrinate (factually) in a post?
Anonymous
05/01/2025 09:17
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, wasn’t this about having a civil discussion rather than disrespect? Unless you aren’t capable of the former? Probably not. One can hope - though these threads are usually full of people like you.
you're not being very nice either.
Haven’t you noticed that there is a contingent of regular posters on this forum who are not actually interested in any sort of dialogue, regardless of how many seemingly innocuous threads they start? Sorry, friend, I am not one to turn the other cheek when someone calls someone else an ass8hole on the Religion forum.
I think it's not just this forum. I think it has to do with talking to strangers on the internet. It's easier to be rude.
As another poster wrote, where was someone being so insulting other than making a factual claim? Sensitive much?
The above "sensitive much" is a good example of rudeness when talking to strangers on the internet. Doubtful that pp would say that to someone in person.
DP. You could have just answered "yes".
Anonymous
05/01/2025 08:29
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, wasn’t this about having a civil discussion rather than disrespect? Unless you aren’t capable of the former? Probably not. One can hope - though these threads are usually full of people like you.
you're not being very nice either.
Haven’t you noticed that there is a contingent of regular posters on this forum who are not actually interested in any sort of dialogue, regardless of how many seemingly innocuous threads they start? Sorry, friend, I am not one to turn the other cheek when someone calls someone else an ass8hole on the Religion forum.
I think it's not just this forum. I think it has to do with talking to strangers on the internet. It's easier to be rude.
As another poster wrote, where was someone being so insulting other than making a factual claim? Sensitive much?
The above "sensitive much" is a good example of rudeness when talking to strangers on the internet. Doubtful that pp would say that to someone in person.
Anonymous
04/30/2025 21:36
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, wasn’t this about having a civil discussion rather than disrespect? Unless you aren’t capable of the former? Probably not. One can hope - though these threads are usually full of people like you.
you're not being very nice either.
Haven’t you noticed that there is a contingent of regular posters on this forum who are not actually interested in any sort of dialogue, regardless of how many seemingly innocuous threads they start? Sorry, friend, I am not one to turn the other cheek when someone calls someone else an ass8hole on the Religion forum.
I think it's not just this forum. I think it has to do with talking to strangers on the internet. It's easier to be rude.
As another poster wrote, where was someone being so insulting other than making a factual claim? Sensitive much?
Anonymous
04/30/2025 19:06
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, wasn’t this about having a civil discussion rather than disrespect? Unless you aren’t capable of the former? Probably not. One can hope - though these threads are usually full of people like you.
you're not being very nice either.
Haven’t you noticed that there is a contingent of regular posters on this forum who are not actually interested in any sort of dialogue, regardless of how many seemingly innocuous threads they start? Sorry, friend, I am not one to turn the other cheek when someone calls someone else an ass8hole on the Religion forum.
I think it's not just this forum. I think it has to do with talking to strangers on the internet. It's easier to be rude.
Anonymous
04/30/2025 18:37
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, wasn’t this about having a civil discussion rather than disrespect? Unless you aren’t capable of the former? Probably not. One can hope - though these threads are usually full of people like you.
you're not being very nice either.
Haven’t you noticed that there is a contingent of regular posters on this forum who are not actually interested in any sort of dialogue, regardless of how many seemingly innocuous threads they start? Sorry, friend, I am not one to turn the other cheek when someone calls someone else an ass8hole on the Religion forum.
Anonymous
04/30/2025 17:33
Subject: Why do some religious people dislike non-religious people?
Anonymous wrote:Wait, wasn’t this about having a civil discussion rather than disrespect? Unless you aren’t capable of the former? Probably not. One can hope - though these threads are usually full of people like you.
you're not being very nice either.