Anonymous
Post 04/02/2025 09:41     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

Anonymous wrote:None of these fools have a private plane. They are not that well off.



They probably buy hours or have a split, that’s not uncommon.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2025 09:19     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

None of these fools have a private plane. They are not that well off.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2025 07:18     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

What county are we looking under?
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 23:25     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

You can find a list of all privately owned planes by residents of any state and county here:
https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/StateCountyResult
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 23:13     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s the sham RFP and overly close relationship between coach and team rep/pool board that makes it seem icky.


The evolution of this thread went from maybe inappropriate to safe sport violation to not inappropriate to icky. I was worried for a minute we would miss a reference to Machine losing a competitive bid, but you found a way to connect it to a plane ride. So much hostility.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 22:13     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

I think it’s the sham RFP and overly close relationship between coach and team rep/pool board that makes it seem icky.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 22:05     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

Totally appropriate.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 22:04     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

Anonymous wrote:No. Inappropriate.


Yes. Perfectly appropriate.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 21:52     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

No. Inappropriate.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 21:36     Subject: Re:Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

Huh? When Kobe Bryant died in the copter crash, there were several coaches and other players parents etc who were hitching a ride with him, no?

The coach can travel on a family's private plane. Why not?
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 21:29     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FWIW, safe sport guidelines…

Coaches should avoid having athletes as their favorites. They should also avoid creating a
situation that could be perceived as them having favorites.

Gift-giving, providing special favors or showing favoritism to individual athletes is strongly
discouraged.


But the gift was from swim family to the coach


The kids violated safe sport by showing favoritism and not inviting all the coaches?
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 21:24     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What if you just name names instead of being coy?


Thread will be shut down. IYKYK


No names needed, everyone who follows the swim forum can put 2+2 together
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 21:22     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, safe sport guidelines…

Coaches should avoid having athletes as their favorites. They should also avoid creating a
situation that could be perceived as them having favorites.

Gift-giving, providing special favors or showing favoritism to individual athletes is strongly
discouraged.


But the gift was from swim family to the coach
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 21:15     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, safe sport guidelines…

Coaches should avoid having athletes as their favorites. They should also avoid creating a
situation that could be perceived as them having favorites.

Gift-giving, providing special favors or showing favoritism to individual athletes is strongly
discouraged.


Got it. So report it instead of making vague allegations

Your post should read: this is a violation of article XXX of Safesport and has been reported to safesport@usaswimming.org. I understand that filing a false report is in itself a violation of safesport and may also result in civil and criminal penalties.

Please actually back up your allegations instead of anonymous smearing and hints of violations. Which specific section of safesport code does it actually violate--not just some out of context FAQs. The closest thing I could find in the code was Article XI, Section H.2.f "Unsupported Allegations"
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 20:38     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

FWIW, safe sport guidelines…

Coaches should avoid having athletes as their favorites. They should also avoid creating a
situation that could be perceived as them having favorites.

Gift-giving, providing special favors or showing favoritism to individual athletes is strongly
discouraged.