Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 19:52     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
Accidents like Lynn and Natasha are rare…it’s why they get so much attention. As a 52 year old, I take precautions though. I only weekdays because teenagers on snowboards up my odds of a bad outcome.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 19:20     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
Anonymous wrote:The accident had nothing to do with skills in Lynn Ban's case. It was a freak accident. Natasha Richardson was the same sort of situation, but without a helmet.


Yeah, Natasha was taking a beginner lesson when she fell but died later of a brain bleed.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 19:18     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
Anonymous wrote:So many parents have their kids take one or two lessons, or worse, teach them themselves, and then brag that their kids can go down black runs but they're not in control and are a hazard to others.


Yes, this. Kids and adults skiing above their skill level for bragging rights. The Ski and Snowboard crowd love to brag about themselves, and love to brag even more about their kids.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 19:17     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
The accident had nothing to do with skills in Lynn Ban's case. It was a freak accident. Natasha Richardson was the same sort of situation, but without a helmet.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 19:17     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As expensive as the sport has become, it’s clear by the expansion of slope side homes and rental properties way more people are skiing. Many of them have never had proper training and are skiing well above their ability. Too many on the slopes equate speed with skill and do not learn control. It’s analogy for society overall at this point. As the sport has gotten more expensive but expanded, you also have a lot more entitled rich people (who have little experience) doing entitled stupid things on top of not skiing within their ability. Then you have large publicly traded companies cutting corners to deliver growth in profit to shareholders, which means you may have more inexperienced mountain staff in key roles (ski patrol, grooming, maintenance, all are keys to safety).

I’d do anything to stay far away from Vail, Breck, Winter Park, Park City on a holiday weekend. The 3pm mass exodus to the base has always been harrowing but it’s become downright dangerous.



What is the reason for the timing of this? Is that when the lifts close?


Apres starts….
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 19:16     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I am. Seeing this. Perhaps it’s more the novices as well but also lack of training or sign posts. The poor woman was checked after her accident and cleared and then did right thing after more severe s/s and then surgery so perhaps it was surgery related? So sad! Still remember Natasha Richardson and a bunny slope but head to ice


The ones I remember are Michael Kennedy and Sonny Bono because I was skiing that week.
I remember Natasha Richardson.


None of them had on a helmet.


Lynn Ban was wearing a helmet. If you watch the IG story where she's telling what happened she said so. I'm amazed that could end in death.

But it was the front of her head/face that hit the ground not the side/back.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 19:15     Subject: Re:Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
Anonymous wrote:I can’t find out how Lynn Ban died? she had an accident, had surgery, was posting on instagram and seemed like she was recovering/ recovered. What ended up happening??


Her husband uncovered her dead in bed after they came home from the trip. Likely a secondary brain bleed. She was wearing a helmet, but she got the tip of her ski stuck and did a face plant so it was the front of her head that apparently was not covered by the helmet.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 19:14     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes. I am. Seeing this. Perhaps it’s more the novices as well but also lack of training or sign posts. The poor woman was checked after her accident and cleared and then did right thing after more severe s/s and then surgery so perhaps it was surgery related? So sad! Still remember Natasha Richardson and a bunny slope but head to ice


The ones I remember are Michael Kennedy and Sonny Bono because I was skiing that week.
I remember Natasha Richardson.


None of them had on a helmet.


Lynn Ban was wearing a helmet. If you watch the IG story where she's telling what happened she said so. I'm amazed that could end in death.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 19:12     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
Anonymous wrote:Darwinism at work.


hater
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 18:37     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
So many parents have their kids take one or two lessons, or worse, teach them themselves, and then brag that their kids can go down black runs but they're not in control and are a hazard to others.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 18:26     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes. I am. Seeing this. Perhaps it’s more the novices as well but also lack of training or sign posts. The poor woman was checked after her accident and cleared and then did right thing after more severe s/s and then surgery so perhaps it was surgery related? So sad! Still remember Natasha Richardson and a bunny slope but head to ice


The ones I remember are Michael Kennedy and Sonny Bono because I was skiing that week.



Kennedy has no one to blame but himself: (from wiki ).

“He was playing football while on skis with several other members of the Kennedy family when, at approximately 4:15 p.m., he hit a tree. Kennedy was not wearing a helmet or other safety equipment. The family had been admonished by the ski patrol to cease the activity.”


Should he have worn a football helmet or skiing helmet?
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 18:02     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
Anonymous wrote:Skiing used to be an elite sport/activity ( still is to some extent). But, certainly more accessible and people are essentially dumb.


Skiing is dangerous when you don't know what you're doing. People eager to pick up skiing, but won't take classes to learn how to ski. That's like getting behind the wheel of a car for the first time, and heading to drive on the beltway. Insane and dangerous for everyone.

There ought to be some sort of required universal "license" to be allowed on the ski slopes.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 17:49     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
Anonymous wrote:This year I decided that my downhill skiing days are over and I'm doing only low slopes and cross-country from now on. The boarders just make it feel too dangerous, regardless of the statistics. (I think some of them they enjoy terrorizing people).
Ironically, I signed up for a cross-country tour in CO, and the leaders decided to make it as "thrilling" as possible. Yeah no. There's an ethos that favors danger that's infected the skiing world, especially in high-end resorts.

typo correction: "some of them enjoy" (god, my father was an English professor)
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 17:45     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
This year I decided that my downhill skiing days are over and I'm doing only low slopes and cross-country from now on. The boarders just make it feel too dangerous, regardless of the statistics. (I think some of them they enjoy terrorizing people).
Ironically, I signed up for a cross-country tour in CO, and the leaders decided to make it as "thrilling" as possible. Yeah no. There's an ethos that favors danger that's infected the skiing world, especially in high-end resorts.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 17:38     Subject: Is it just me or has the skiing accident and death rate gone up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes. I am. Seeing this. Perhaps it’s more the novices as well but also lack of training or sign posts. The poor woman was checked after her accident and cleared and then did right thing after more severe s/s and then surgery so perhaps it was surgery related? So sad! Still remember Natasha Richardson and a bunny slope but head to ice


The ones I remember are Michael Kennedy and Sonny Bono because I was skiing that week.



Kennedy has no one to blame but himself: (from wiki ).

“He was playing football while on skis with several other members of the Kennedy family when, at approximately 4:15 p.m., he hit a tree. Kennedy was not wearing a helmet or other safety equipment. The family had been admonished by the ski patrol to cease the activity.”