Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 11:32     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
The crate training debate sounds a lot like the sleep training debate to me. People who crate train argue that the dogs love it and it’s what’s safest. People who sleep training debate sounds their babies argue they are giving their children the gift of sleep and without sleep training the children will never learn to sleep independently.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 11:23     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
i crate trained. my dogs love the crate. it is their safe comfy space. they will spend half the day in there with the door open.

they do get the door closed at night and if we arent home to keep them from getting into trouble.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 11:22     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
Anonymous wrote:Just reading another thread where people are flipping out that OP didn’t crate train.


Because it is safer for the dog
Too many owners suck they have no idea what they are doing

My dogs deserve a place that is just theirs

We crate train then eventually don’t shut the crates.

All of our dogs love their crates

Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 11:14     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does everyone cage their cats as well? If it is what they want and will feel safer and what is used to take them to the vet, shouldn't they also be kept in cages? I rarely see people caging their cats, just their dogs - which seems odd if caging is what people truly believe is best for the animals.


Cats aren't trainable the same way dogs are.


Cats can be trained for sure. Takes effort but they can be. If being in a cage is where the animal wants to be and where they feel safe, they shouldn't need much training to go in and stay there.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 11:08     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
I lived in a country in Asia and they kept most of their animals in cages too so it isn't just here it is popular. They even have animal markets that is just rows and rows of caged animals you can buy. Maybe the idea here that animals want to be caged came from Asia as I think keeping animals in cages has been done for quite awhile there.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 11:08     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
Anonymous wrote:Does everyone cage their cats as well? If it is what they want and will feel safer and what is used to take them to the vet, shouldn't they also be kept in cages? I rarely see people caging their cats, just their dogs - which seems odd if caging is what people truly believe is best for the animals.


Cats aren't trainable the same way dogs are.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 11:04     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
Does everyone cage their cats as well? If it is what they want and will feel safer and what is used to take them to the vet, shouldn't they also be kept in cages? I rarely see people caging their cats, just their dogs - which seems odd if caging is what people truly believe is best for the animals.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 11:03     Subject: Re:Why is crate training so popular here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because my dogs loved it and when they were finally trained they loved to go in it to chill.

My biggest problem is they are large and I could never get rid of them because they loved being in them so much.


You could have the same space but without a closed/locked door. Your dog would love it just as much as a place to chill and not be caged in.


It’s never locked after they are trained.


If you have the door off or always open, then I wouldn't consider it a cage or an issue. If the dog or animal can come and go as they wish then great.


You don't seem to understand animal behavior or puppy development. You know how people used to train their kids or dogs to not get into stuff? They hit them. People who use non-violent restraints don't need to hit their young dependents. Unless you want to be attached to your dog 24/7, and rectify whatever mess he gets into when you're fast asleep... a crate is infinitely preferable to other solutions. And at the beginning, the crate will have to be closed. It's the entire point.



I understand it, I just don't agree. Caging animals indoors only became a thing in the 80s/90s. My family had dogs my entire childhood as did most of my friends' families as we lived in the country side and everyone had dogs. The dogs were never hit and never caged and neither would have been considered appropriate. I get that now since it is more convenient, it is become acceptable to cage your dogs indoors but that doesn't mean everyone agrees that just because it is more convenient for people, that it is great for the dogs.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 11:01     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
Anonymous wrote:My dog went in the crate at night and when we were gone. As she got older we only put her in at night. Then the crate was open but she chose to sleep in there. She also went there during thunderstorms when she was scared. She felt safe there.

It’s “Inhumane” to cage a human (see how there’s human in that word?) but not appropriately with an animal.

I know some dogs who didn’t do well
With the crate, so they didn’t have one. That is totally fine too.

If you don’t want to crate the dogs, don’t crate them. But other people have good reasons. Ie being crated at the vet.


Your dog sleeps in a cage at night? Gotta admit our dogs have always slept with us, or on the floor by our bed. We bought a dog bed but the cat uses it and the dog doesn’t seem to care
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 10:58     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If cages are so great and that is where dogs want to be, why let them out? If that is the best place for animals and the only way they will feel safe, then people should be advocating against letting animals out of cages given the view that is clearly scary and harmful for the animal to have any freedom.
According to those who are singing the praises of keeping them in cages - do you look down on people who let their animals out of cages?

Crazy how we have so many pro-caged animal people on this page and then you have all kinds of animal activists fighting to free other animals from cages as they say it is inhumane.

Who knew that some are activists for caging animals and some are activists against caging animals.


This is a weird take. Get off your high horse. Crating is NOT the same as abusing your animal.


I didn't say anything about abusing an animal. We are talking about whether or not keeping your animals in cages is a good thing or a bad thing. Some people here are advocating strongly for it as a good thing and what animals actually need and want - other people advocate strongly against it as a bad thing.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 10:48     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
Anonymous wrote:If cages are so great and that is where dogs want to be, why let them out? If that is the best place for animals and the only way they will feel safe, then people should be advocating against letting animals out of cages given the view that is clearly scary and harmful for the animal to have any freedom.
According to those who are singing the praises of keeping them in cages - do you look down on people who let their animals out of cages?

Crazy how we have so many pro-caged animal people on this page and then you have all kinds of animal activists fighting to free other animals from cages as they say it is inhumane.

Who knew that some are activists for caging animals and some are activists against caging animals.


This is a weird take. Get off your high horse. Crating is NOT the same as abusing your animal.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 10:43     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
Anonymous wrote:Dogs are den animals. The cage becomes their den. It’s very soothing for them. But you have to start the process early and stick with it. It’s worth it. Less separation anxiety for the dog.


What’s wrong with a dog house?
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 10:37     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
It's also a safety issue. If a dog is trained to go into their crate when they're scared, it makes them significantly easier to rescue in an emergency situation than if they hide under the bed.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 10:37     Subject: Re:Why is crate training so popular here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because my dogs loved it and when they were finally trained they loved to go in it to chill.

My biggest problem is they are large and I could never get rid of them because they loved being in them so much.


You could have the same space but without a closed/locked door. Your dog would love it just as much as a place to chill and not be caged in.


It’s never locked after they are trained.


If you have the door off or always open, then I wouldn't consider it a cage or an issue. If the dog or animal can come and go as they wish then great.


You don't seem to understand animal behavior or puppy development. You know how people used to train their kids or dogs to not get into stuff? They hit them. People who use non-violent restraints don't need to hit their young dependents. Unless you want to be attached to your dog 24/7, and rectify whatever mess he gets into when you're fast asleep... a crate is infinitely preferable to other solutions. And at the beginning, the crate will have to be closed. It's the entire point.

Anonymous
Post 01/18/2025 10:37     Subject: Why is crate training so popular here?
If cages are so great and that is where dogs want to be, why let them out? If that is the best place for animals and the only way they will feel safe, then people should be advocating against letting animals out of cages given the view that is clearly scary and harmful for the animal to have any freedom.
According to those who are singing the praises of keeping them in cages - do you look down on people who let their animals out of cages?

Crazy how we have so many pro-caged animal people on this page and then you have all kinds of animal activists fighting to free other animals from cages as they say it is inhumane.

Who knew that some are activists for caging animals and some are activists against caging animals.