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Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge Beatles fan, but John was not a good guy. He was abusive to women and treated Julian like garbage.

This. He was an okay artist ( he and the Beatles are hugely overrated in my opinion). I still like some of the music, but John Lennon the man was trash a lot of what he did has been overlooked because of the time he lived, because of his tragic death, and his stans and stans of the Beatles.

I guarantee you every band that you like worships The Beatles.

Not only that, but the Beatles have influenced virtually every band that came after them.

They essentially invented the rock band, the stadium tour, the merchandising contract …

The Beatles defined the contours of the music industry as we know it.

People don’t have to love them, but to call them overrated is just ignorant.

Sure, The Beatles have an unquestionable place in music history. They influenced the sound of popular music. I don't think anyone is rejecting that.

They didn't invent music bands, though they were one of the first big ones in the new genre called rock.

Elvis Presley went on the first stadium tour.

Elvis Presley had a merchandising contract before The Beatles did.

They were the first rock band. Elvis did not form a rock band.

Before the Beatles, bands were primarily one person backed by others. Elvis fit that mold. So did Buddy Holly.

The Beatles were the first musical group where all members contributed to the songwriting and all members were known as equal members of the group.

Elvis also did not go on a stadium tour. The first stadium show was 1965 shea stadium.

The Beatles had the first modern merchandising deal.

Ok, let me specify:

Elvis did play stadiums. But he did not do an extensive stadium TOUR.

He played a 5 date stint.

The Beatles did 3 separate, long stadium tours. They started stadium rock.

5-day tour = stadium tour
Let's not now qualify.

Not only is there room for other musical artists in your pantheon of musical greatness, but there are artists who made strides earlier than The Beatles.

Please make a list for us of the songs Elvis wrote. Go ahead, we'll all wait. Elvis and his father were so ignorant they literally refused to shelter their income because they believed the more taxes you paid, the more wealthy you were.

They attempted to buy a huge plot of land in Mississippi and made the seller aware of who the buyer was. Guess how much the seller jacked up the price once he found out which financial geniuses wanted to buy it.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge Beatles fan, but John was not a good guy. He was abusive to women and treated Julian like garbage.

This. He was an okay artist ( he and the Beatles are hugely overrated in my opinion). I still like some of the music, but John Lennon the man was trash a lot of what he did has been overlooked because of the time he lived, because of his tragic death, and his stans and stans of the Beatles.

I guarantee you every band that you like worships The Beatles.

Not only that, but the Beatles have influenced virtually every band that came after them.

They essentially invented the rock band, the stadium tour, the merchandising contract …

The Beatles defined the contours of the music industry as we know it.

People don’t have to love them, but to call them overrated is just ignorant.

Sure, The Beatles have an unquestionable place in music history. They influenced the sound of popular music. I don't think anyone is rejecting that.

They didn't invent music bands, though they were one of the first big ones in the new genre called rock.

Elvis Presley went on the first stadium tour.

Elvis Presley had a merchandising contract before The Beatles did.

They were the first rock band. Elvis did not form a rock band.

Before the Beatles, bands were primarily one person backed by others. Elvis fit that mold. So did Buddy Holly.

The Beatles were the first musical group where all members contributed to the songwriting and all members were known as equal members of the group.

Elvis also did not go on a stadium tour. The first stadium show was 1965 shea stadium.

The Beatles had the first modern merchandising deal.

Ok, let me specify:

Elvis did play stadiums. But he did not do an extensive stadium TOUR.

He played a 5 date stint.

The Beatles did 3 separate, long stadium tours. They started stadium rock.

5-day tour = stadium tour
Let's not now qualify.

Not only is there room for other musical artists in your pantheon of musical greatness, but there are artists who made strides earlier than The Beatles.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge Beatles fan, but John was not a good guy. He was abusive to women and treated Julian like garbage.

This. He was an okay artist ( he and the Beatles are hugely overrated in my opinion). I still like some of the music, but John Lennon the man was trash a lot of what he did has been overlooked because of the time he lived, because of his tragic death, and his stans and stans of the Beatles.

I guarantee you every band that you like worships The Beatles.

Not only that, but the Beatles have influenced virtually every band that came after them.

They essentially invented the rock band, the stadium tour, the merchandising contract …

The Beatles defined the contours of the music industry as we know it.

People don’t have to love them, but to call them overrated is just ignorant.

Sure, The Beatles have an unquestionable place in music history. They influenced the sound of popular music. I don't think anyone is rejecting that.

They didn't invent music bands, though they were one of the first big ones in the new genre called rock.

Elvis Presley went on the first stadium tour.

Elvis Presley had a merchandising contract before The Beatles did.

They were the first rock band. Elvis did not form a rock band.

Before the Beatles, bands were primarily one person backed by others. Elvis fit that mold. So did Buddy Holly.

The Beatles were the first musical group where all members contributed to the songwriting and all members were known as equal members of the group.

Elvis also did not go on a stadium tour. The first stadium show was 1965 shea stadium.

The Beatles had the first modern merchandising deal.

Ok, let me specify:

Elvis did play stadiums. But he did not do an extensive stadium TOUR.

He played a 5 date stint.

The Beatles did 3 separate, long stadium tours. They started stadium rock.

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Anonymous wrote:I was always convinced it was McCartney and not Lennon who was the melodic powerhouse of The Beatles. I find Lennon's solo output to be underwhelming.

Agreed. I always heard that it was Yoko who tried convince everyone that John was most responsible for the great songs. Recent documentary footage shows that it was Paul.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge Beatles fan, but John was not a good guy. He was abusive to women and treated Julian like garbage.

This. He was an okay artist ( he and the Beatles are hugely overrated in my opinion). I still like some of the music, but John Lennon the man was trash a lot of what he did has been overlooked because of the time he lived, because of his tragic death, and his stans and stans of the Beatles.

I guarantee you every band that you like worships The Beatles.

Not only that, but the Beatles have influenced virtually every band that came after them.

They essentially invented the rock band, the stadium tour, the merchandising contract …

The Beatles defined the contours of the music industry as we know it.

People don’t have to love them, but to call them overrated is just ignorant.

Sure, The Beatles have an unquestionable place in music history. They influenced the sound of popular music. I don't think anyone is rejecting that.

They didn't invent music bands, though they were one of the first big ones in the new genre called rock.

Elvis Presley went on the first stadium tour.

Elvis Presley had a merchandising contract before The Beatles did.

They were the first rock band. Elvis did not form a rock band.

Before the Beatles, bands were primarily one person backed by others. Elvis fit that mold. So did Buddy Holly.

The Beatles were the first musical group where all members contributed to the songwriting and all members were known as equal members of the group.

Elvis also did not go on a stadium tour. The first stadium show was 1965 shea stadium.

The Beatles had the first modern merchandising deal.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge Beatles fan, but John was not a good guy. He was abusive to women and treated Julian like garbage.

This. He was an okay artist ( he and the Beatles are hugely overrated in my opinion). I still like some of the music, but John Lennon the man was trash a lot of what he did has been overlooked because of the time he lived, because of his tragic death, and his stans and stans of the Beatles.

I guarantee you every band that you like worships The Beatles.

Not only that, but the Beatles have influenced virtually every band that came after them.

They essentially invented the rock band, the stadium tour, the merchandising contract …

The Beatles defined the contours of the music industry as we know it.

People don’t have to love them, but to call them overrated is just ignorant.

Sure, The Beatles have an unquestionable place in music history. They influenced the sound of popular music. I don't think anyone is rejecting that.

They didn't invent music bands, though they were one of the first big ones in the new genre called rock.

Elvis Presley went on the first stadium tour.

Elvis Presley had a merchandising contract before The Beatles did.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge Beatles fan, but John was not a good guy. He was abusive to women and treated Julian like garbage.

This. He was an okay artist ( he and the Beatles are hugely overrated in my opinion). I still like some of the music, but John Lennon the man was trash a lot of what he did has been overlooked because of the time he lived, because of his tragic death, and his stans and stans of the Beatles.

I guarantee you every band that you like worships The Beatles.

Not only that, but the Beatles have influenced virtually every band that came after them.

They essentially invented the rock band, the stadium tour, the merchandising contract …

The Beatles defined the contours of the music industry as we know it.

People don’t have to love them, but to call them overrated is just ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge Beatles fan, but John was not a good guy. He was abusive to women and treated Julian like garbage.

This. He was an okay artist ( he and the Beatles are hugely overrated in my opinion). I still like some of the music, but John Lennon the man was trash a lot of what he did has been overlooked because of the time he lived, because of his tragic death, and his stans and stans of the Beatles.

I guarantee you every band that you like worships The Beatles.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge Beatles fan, but John was not a good guy. He was abusive to women and treated Julian like garbage.

This. He was an okay artist ( he and the Beatles are hugely overrated in my opinion). I still like some of the music, but John Lennon the man was trash a lot of what he did has been overlooked because of the time he lived, because of his tragic death, and his stans and stans of the Beatles.

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Anonymous wrote:The comments here are dumb.

Lots of rockstars (then and now) are garbage humans. Who had sex with underage groupies, did drugs, abused their partners etc. but you still listen to them.

In fact there are probably garbage humans reading this post right now. People are flawed. He was a Beatle for crissakes, no one here is anywhere near talented (and his solo albums were, while different from Paul who always had a more pop/commercial sound, just as good as Paul’s).

He was gunned down on the street by a literal crazy narcissist when he’d finally started calming down, had strengthened his relationship with both Paul and Julian after taking five years “off” to raise Sean and try to be a better dad than he was the first time around (and he knew it). It was an effing tragedy and Double Fantasy (the album that was his last) and Milk and Honey (released posthumously) have tracks that make me cry because of the waste.

And to the OP: yeah there have been rumors for years about their open relationship. Yoko paired him up with May specifically so she controlled who he was with vs someone random. She also claimed she’d never heard of The Beatles when they met (sure). Still she was an artist and a musician in her own right and lazy misogynists like to blame her for the complicated relationship between four men who changed music in SEVEN YEARS (yeah, only seven) and were tired of being around one another.

The Beatles had a significant influence on the music world, but we can let the John Lennon worship cool off now. If you personally keep crying over Double Fantasy, that's your experience.

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Anonymous wrote:I was always convinced it was McCartney and not Lennon who was the melodic powerhouse of The Beatles. I find Lennon's solo output to be underwhelming.

Agreed. I always heard that it was Yoko who tried convince everyone that John was most responsible for the great songs. Recent documentary footage shows that it was Paul.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge Beatles fan, but John was not a good guy. He was abusive to women and treated Julian like garbage.

This. He was an okay artist ( he and the Beatles are hugely overrated in my opinion). I still like some of the music, but John Lennon the man was trash a lot of what he did has been overlooked because of the time he lived, because of his tragic death, and his stans and stans of the Beatles.

Anonymous wrote:Glad we're getting to a time when the generational idolizing of the Beatles has come down so we can hold conversations about them as real people.