Anonymous
09/26/2024 19:04
Subject: Hiker in South African park found dead
This is tragic, but it has less to do with South Africa than with a young adult traveling alone.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 13:51
Subject: Hiker in South African park found dead
She was a Morehead-Cain scholar at UNC Chapel Hill, interning at an NGO. It is shattering when young people with so much promise die far before their time.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 13:44
Subject: Hiker in South African park found dead
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is so tragic. I lived in Cape Town for a year and I would have never done this hike alone.
It is sad that women must live within tight constraints , around the world , to avoid sexual violence and murder. We really are not as free as men. And that is accepted as the way it will always be.
We are not as free as men, and we do have a greater risk of sexual violence however men are murdered far more often than women. And I don't agree we need to live in tight restraints. I have travelled solo throughout the world for 30 years. The world overall is a very safe place. Random acts of violence can happen anywhere at anytime to anyone. Being a woman has never limited what I do or where I go. I just probably have to think through more scenarios and make decisions at times that men don't have to make or don't consider but in general - I don't find being a woman limiting when it comes to travel.
There have been multiple men who died hiking over the past few months that have also made the news. Do we have confirmation this hiker was raped and murdered?
I also travel alone.
But don’t frequent bars at nights alone, or walk streets alone at night, or tell strange men where I am staying, or get in cars alone with them…the list is long.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 13:41
Subject: Re:Hiker in South African park found dead
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This isn’t really a travel topic.
Untrue.
Some countries are particularly dangerous for female travelers.
https://www.saferspaces.org.za/understand/entry/gender-based-violence-in-south-africa#:~:text=Between%2025%25%20and%2040%25%20of,in%20their%20lifetime%20%5B10%5D.
1/4-1/3 of adult South African men report having raped a women.
Not somewhere I would recommend you send your daughter on vacation.
1 in 4 women in the US are raped … so US is unsafe for women for vacation?
Statistics are the obviously not your strong suit.
The US rate of take is 42 per 100,000.
South Africa’s is 72.
Why can’t you take this crisis seriously, instead of dismissing it?
Should read “rape” not “take”
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:18
Subject: Hiker in South African park found dead
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is so tragic. I lived in Cape Town for a year and I would have never done this hike alone.
It is sad that women must live within tight constraints , around the world , to avoid sexual violence and murder. We really are not as free as men. And that is accepted as the way it will always be.
We are not as free as men, and we do have a greater risk of sexual violence however men are murdered far more often than women. And I don't agree we need to live in tight restraints. I have travelled solo throughout the world for 30 years. The world overall is a very safe place. Random acts of violence can happen anywhere at anytime to anyone. Being a woman has never limited what I do or where I go. I just probably have to think through more scenarios and make decisions at times that men don't have to make or don't consider but in general - I don't find being a woman limiting when it comes to travel.
There have been multiple men who died hiking over the past few months that have also made the news. Do we have confirmation this hiker was raped and murdered?
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:12
Subject: Re:Hiker in South African park found dead
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This isn’t really a travel topic.
Untrue.
Some countries are particularly dangerous for female travelers.
https://www.saferspaces.org.za/understand/entry/gender-based-violence-in-south-africa#:~:text=Between%2025%25%20and%2040%25%20of,in%20their%20lifetime%20%5B10%5D.
1/4-1/3 of adult South African men report having raped a women.
Not somewhere I would recommend you send your daughter on vacation.
1 in 4 women in the US are raped … so US is unsafe for women for vacation?
Statistics are the obviously not your strong suit.
The US rate of take is 42 per 100,000.
South Africa’s is 72.
Why can’t you take this crisis seriously, instead of dismissing it?
Anonymous
09/26/2024 11:00
Subject: Re:Hiker in South African park found dead
Some news agencies reported that Cheuvront is believed to have fallen from a rocky cliff, causing her death. However, the cause is still unclear and is under investigation, according to South African authorities.
https://www.hcpress.com/avery/body-of-avery-county-resident-brook-cheuvront-discovered-in-south-africa-after-a-fatal-hiking-trip.html
Anonymous
09/26/2024 10:57
Subject: Re:Hiker in South African park found dead
A Spanish tourist has been trampled to death by elephants after climbing out of his car to take photos of the herd at a game reserve in South Africa.
The unnamed 43-year-old man was visiting Pilanesberg National Park on Sunday morning with his fiancee and two other people when the attack happened, according to police.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cglkdr6nyzvo
On the same page of the BBC story. I think he was pushed by criminals or the elephants were trained by criminals to attack tourist?
Anonymous
09/26/2024 10:26
Subject: Hiker in South African park found dead
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Table Mountain is beautiful. Cape Town’s setting is stunning…but the crime is off the charts. For example, cabs do not stop at red lights at night, so that they can avoid armed robbery.
The only thing true in this ridiculous post is that South Africa has high crime levels.
People do actually stop at red lights, and Table Mountain is crawling with tourists most of the time.
Also true from the post: Table Mountain is beautiful, and Cape Town’s setting is stunning.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 09:01
Subject: Hiker in South African park found dead
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Table Mountain is a very popular day hike. She would have been near other people the vast majority of the day.
Sure, someone could've attacked her. But she would also be near witnesses. Not exactly the place you go after a young woman.
I'm thinking she stopped to take a photo and slipped. It's dangerous and with sheer cliff drops.
Have hiked Table Mtn myself and the above is 100% true.
If it’s so crowded wouldn’t someone have also seen her slip during a photo stop?
Anonymous
09/26/2024 08:59
Subject: Hiker in South African park found dead
Anonymous wrote:Has it been confirmed that she was the victim of a crime? Plenty of deaths were reported over the summer in US National parks from people who were overcome by the elements.
No indication whatsoever it was a crime and in fact her dad referred to it as "tragic, unexpected and accidental loss".
Anonymous
09/25/2024 20:21
Subject: Hiker in South African park found dead
Anonymous wrote:I did that hike with two others and I fell apart. It was so hot, no shade, and it's a tough climb.
I can imagine. I took the cable car up and still baked in the sun at the top.
Gorgeous place but surely can be trouble if you get lost, don't have enough water, get overheated, and so on. Not sure why people are automatically jumping to crime.
Anonymous
09/25/2024 19:48
Subject: Hiker in South African park found dead
I did that hike with two others and I fell apart. It was so hot, no shade, and it's a tough climb.
Anonymous
09/25/2024 16:02
Subject: Hiker in South African park found dead
Anonymous wrote:Table Mountain is a very popular day hike. She would have been near other people the vast majority of the day.
Sure, someone could've attacked her. But she would also be near witnesses. Not exactly the place you go after a young woman.
I'm thinking she stopped to take a photo and slipped. It's dangerous and with sheer cliff drops.
Have hiked Table Mtn myself and the above is 100% true.